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    beyond our ken got a reaction from rea in New 1877 Members Only Supporters Club   
    Have to say i agree. it should either be a high-earning, high fee, limited-access type or a £30-50/per year to register first-come first-served arrangement.
    Dunfermline have struggled for years to make money out of their void since it became members only-it used to be stacked for every home game with away fans getting access for a door fee if there was room. They tried opening up in the evenings and even offered a shuttle to town to attract youngsters but it still struggles.
    That being said, at least it will be fitted out and the subs will cover basic costs-perhaps we can start to make the sort of money the fakes make from their lounge upstairs which is very popular for lunches and has a high reputation
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from dardo in New 1877 Members Only Supporters Club   
    open for 20 weeks/year and a pay at the door of less than £10 won't cover the build cost in a reasonable time frame
    It has to be a formal membership deal if it is to work
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from saintnextlifetime in The Fall Of Labour   
    In a logical sense, the potential electorate can only include those who are eligible to vote and who actually intend to vote. Those who won't consider voting can consider themselves part of the greater electorate, but based on voting potential they couldn't be considered as part of a potential electorate.
    Your point is like saying the entire population of the UK is a potential market for marmite and includes those who tried it and didn't like it and those who just don't fancy the stuff.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from FTOF in Assistant Manager   
    It was certainly mentioned that Coughlin undermined Hendrie in the later days of their partnership. It almost always happens, assistant thinks he is the real brains of the operation, starts working against the gaffer who carries the can for the inevitable downturn. The manager needs to be the unquestioned leader, or you end up with a numpty like Craig talking his way into a job and undoing 10 years of good work in the process.
    For all his faults, wee Gus had it right in this regard. Strong character though Andy Milen was, the relationship was properly mapped out at the start and there were no problems-save for Millen's management of the reserves which probably convinced him that he would never be a manager
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from magnus in Assistant Manager   
    It was certainly mentioned that Coughlin undermined Hendrie in the later days of their partnership. It almost always happens, assistant thinks he is the real brains of the operation, starts working against the gaffer who carries the can for the inevitable downturn. The manager needs to be the unquestioned leader, or you end up with a numpty like Craig talking his way into a job and undoing 10 years of good work in the process.
    For all his faults, wee Gus had it right in this regard. Strong character though Andy Milen was, the relationship was properly mapped out at the start and there were no problems-save for Millen's management of the reserves which probably convinced him that he would never be a manager
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Isle Of Bute Saint in Assistant Manager   
    shouldn't be the case that the manager has experience of management? He should have shown enough in the selection process (nobody laugh) to reassure that HE is the man, not his assistant.
    New manager + experienced assistant (guy who couldn't make it on his own) = recipe for disaster
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Isle Of Bute Saint in Grrrrrr !   
    that's the only good reason for being with RBS
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Vambo57 in Dashcams   
    what is his name? Didier Dashcam?
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from habbiesaint in Celtic V Real Sociedad   
    Believe it or not, there will be a few business people who frequent our hospitality suite as a business expense without being very interested in St Mirren.
    This provides work for the staff and earnings for the club. If you have the money then there are worse ways to spend it
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Mykey in Fixtures Released   
    Aha!
    Harket him!
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Vambo57 in Fixtures Released   
    the last opener we had over there went pretty well
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Charlotte Saint in Fixtures Released   
    the last opener we had over there went pretty well
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from scottd in Fixtures Released   
    the last opener we had over there went pretty well
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Greenhill Road in Celtic V Real Sociedad   
    Believe it or not, there will be a few business people who frequent our hospitality suite as a business expense without being very interested in St Mirren.
    This provides work for the staff and earnings for the club. If you have the money then there are worse ways to spend it
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from shull in Celtic V Real Sociedad   
    Believe it or not, there will be a few business people who frequent our hospitality suite as a business expense without being very interested in St Mirren.
    This provides work for the staff and earnings for the club. If you have the money then there are worse ways to spend it
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from TopCat in Celtic V Real Sociedad   
    Believe it or not, there will be a few business people who frequent our hospitality suite as a business expense without being very interested in St Mirren.
    This provides work for the staff and earnings for the club. If you have the money then there are worse ways to spend it
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from kevo_smfc in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from hamlet in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    Why should it affect any relationship between club and player? I handle claims like this from time to time and the outcome is very often delivered with a smile and a handshake (though rarely an apology), especially when there has been real and proven harm to an employee who carries absolutely no blame. it would be immature, mean spirited and irresponsible of any employer to sour the relationship with someone who was a good employee affected in this way.
    John Hillcoat took legal advice to get released from his contract when he was a junior player and was welcomed back to the club several years later. It will only be ill-informed supporters who think there is some disloyalty or acrimony here-everyone else will be business like and professional about the whole thing.
    FFS, is the guy just meant to take something like that
    The club will undoubtedly close this out with dignity and maturity, i wish some of the posters on here would do the same
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from prov in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from TopCat in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from BuddyHolly9 in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Iael18 in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    It's a discipline & workplace control issue and Saints are vicariously liable for the actions of employees whilst at work. if the spear-chucking was typical of training-ground pranksterism then i'm afraid it is something the club should have thought about and adressed before someone got hurt.
    Individuals are also liable though and it could be that the action is deflected, partially or wholly, onto Thommo.
    McGinn was at work and doing what he was paid for when he innocently and blamelessy suffered a potentially serious injury. He could suffer ill-effects from that for years to come and is right to look after his interests. He could have fully recovered already or the scar tissue, which can be much tougher and less pliable than the rest of him, could cause secondary tears and tightness at any time.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from BuddieinEK in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from exiledfan in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    It's a discipline & workplace control issue and Saints are vicariously liable for the actions of employees whilst at work. if the spear-chucking was typical of training-ground pranksterism then i'm afraid it is something the club should have thought about and adressed before someone got hurt.
    Individuals are also liable though and it could be that the action is deflected, partially or wholly, onto Thommo.
    McGinn was at work and doing what he was paid for when he innocently and blamelessy suffered a potentially serious injury. He could suffer ill-effects from that for years to come and is right to look after his interests. He could have fully recovered already or the scar tissue, which can be much tougher and less pliable than the rest of him, could cause secondary tears and tightness at any time.
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    beyond our ken got a reaction from Vambo57 in John Mcginn Sues Saints   
    This is actually quite swift for a compensation claim. One our contractors suffered a de-gloving injury a full 22 months ago and I only recieved the request for information at the end of April.
    Incidentally, what the Sun has reported as "legal action" will most likely be a letter from McGinn's solicitor requesting specific information that will allow them to assess if a claim is appropriate. I suspect that as a professional footballer he was steered by his agent towards having a medical expenses or accident policy that paid out in the event of his injury and that this could just as much be about the insurers trying to recoup some of their outlay than it is about McGinn "sueing" the club.
    isn't it ironic? so many saints fans laugh at the old firm supporters because they are so easily whipped up by the gutter press, yet here we have a section of the support turning on one of their own because of a few lines in the Sun, of all papers.
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