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So while I know that’s the case, as my tickets were renewals from the last couple of seasons, it’s interesting to note that the Season Tickets page and accompanying T&Cs don’t appear to reference visits of the Old Firm… https://www.stmirren.com/tickets

He’s right though - St Johnstone have cash in the bank and their function facilities are (outside of COVID) booked solid. They make more money from off-field stuff than on-field, and don’t rely on the Brown family bank-rolling them - indeed, Steve is well-known to be a tight bastard amongst their fans. They’re also far more likely to spend any spare cash they have on infrastructure than on the playing side.

No they don’t. They have Middleton, who’d provide some pace, but they have the exact same issues up front as we do - in Callum Hendry, they have possibly the worst striker in the league, and Stevie May is a 3-a-season striker if that. What they do have, though, is a functioning midfield, even with Davidson getting rested.

If I needed lessons on looking silly, your posts would be where I’d start.

Very interesting undertone in that post. Particularly capitalising the ‘SCOTLAND’ part. I’m sure you’d like to set the record straight that there’s no element of racism in your post, and the background of the young people under their supervision is irrelevant.

I’d be surprised if there’s no on-the-day demand for tickets, but it’ll be Dundee’s call on whether they’ll offer it. Assume the club will do a late opening on Thursday as well.

Because he was injured. Went down at the same time as Mullen’s penalty claim and body language suggested he was done.

Only if you plan to pass something off as fact ;) Anyway, mon eh Saints!

Nope. I quoted your assertion that MacKenzie was only playing because OK wanted to give him a chance of earning a deal. I've then been pretty clear that that's bollocks, and the selection will be because OK believes it's the best way of winning the game. Last I checked, I wasn't Oran Kearney. For what it's worth, I agree that Baird and MacKenzie offer different things, but are broadly similar in terms of overall ability. Not that you were making that argument in the first place.

So OK's picking what he believes is the best team for the situation then? Not that he's allowing MacKenzie a chance to earn a deal? Neither Kemp nor myself were making any comments on whether GMacK is better than Baird - simply that OK's not going to be gambling with team selection at this stage just because he has an out of contract centre half just back from a long term injury that he'd like to assess before the end of the season. Contract status will have sod all to do with who starts between now and a week on Monday at the very earliest.

Far more logical possibility than seeing if someone's worth a deal in a game that could see us go tenth...

Collum‘s an odd one - thought he had a fine game in general, yet still leaves you with the feeling that he has to be seen. Over-ruling the West Stand linesman twice on the positioning of Dundee free kicks was a personal favourite. Performance-wise, I didn’t think we were wonderful but everyone showed the desire that’s been missing from other games. Thought Dreyer was a nuisance, probably his best game for us, and Muzek looked more comfortable out wide. Mackenzie strolled it, and to get 90 mins under his belt was an added bonus! While Wednesday isn’t a write-off, Saturday is another massive game - could be within a point of Accies after it, then there’s a real chance of salvaging this clusterf**k of a season.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the club use the coin-throwing as an excuse to end the W7 project/experiment. That’s why I don’t doubt that the culprit would’ve been turned in if known to the ‘regulars’. What it’ll also do is gloss over the fact that the club wilfully handed over 1,800 extra seats to fans who glorify the killing of innocent people based on religion, purely for financial reasons. I noticed there was no Panda Club on Saturday, or any of our ‘award-winning’ pre-match family entertainment in place as a result. Given our stay in the top flight looks like it could well be short lived, I hope the board feel the sell-out was worth it.

Strolled it. And Baird looked really good alongside him. Early days, and easy to be motivated for a game like that, but could be a fantastic addition.

Yeah, that’s probably right - maybe I’m clutching at straws for positives. He doesn’t look mobile enough to play up on his own, but 4-4-2 just doesn’t suit the players we have. At least with Mullen you get a worker.

Been a long time since I left a game as deflated as today. Far too many individual errors, but it’s tough to legislate for Kwepawa having the kind of nightmare he had today - he had to get hooked at half time, keeping him on for 3 minutes only served to humiliate the guy. Brock-Madsen was frustrating up front - I’d have been as well playing there in the first half, but he started to impose himself on their centre halves in the second half - shame it was too late by then. Don’t know where we go from here - we’re clearly miles off where we need to be, but I’m not sure I trust us to bring the required quality in.

Or we’re playing great football, having a successful season and have to turn away our own support to accommodate the Old Firm. Spending more doesn’t guarantee quality - I still remember Mo Camara!

For full disclosure, this is the first season I’ve sat in the South Stand, along with my son (previously, I’d have been in the West, and non-plussed by this). Especially the last two home games, it was great seeing so many younger fans enjoy the experience - clubs like ours need to keep them on board to prosper, not accept that short term profit is the way forward. I get it’s a business decision, but to talk about six figure sums (profit to invest in the squad) alongside a safe standing area (presumably funded from club funds) can’t stack up either.

No guarantees that would’ve still been the same, as that data would be three years old now. The feeling around the place is totally different now. I’ll never be willing to accept that we HAVE to roll over and accept the Old Firm dollar just to compete. That’s why nothing ever changes for the benefit of Scottish football as a whole. GLS talks about a six-figure sum - how much of that disappears to increased police and stewarding costs now away fans book-end the stadium?

At least the weather was nice! The goal before half-time put an undeserved gloss on the performance. Would like to see both penalties again (although with Collum in charge it's hard to be surprised), but we'd been second to almost everything. Understood the Sutton change at the time, but to keep punting it long was lunacy. The odd time we passed the ball we looked okay. Definite reality check - not sure any outfield players could get pass marks. Sutton at a push, maybe. Concerning that the ball in behind Irvine causes so many problems, but I'd imagine Eckersley comes in on the left when fully fit.

Cracking debate. I'll take that as an acknowledgement that you can't argue against any of the facts in my post then?

Some amount of uneducated bollocks in this thread (and that's ignoring Lord Pityme's rambling). Ian Murray's record at Dumbarton sees him as being their most successful manager in the last 25 years, probably since we last met them on League duty. He's worked on the lowest budget in the Championship by a distance, one which couldn't be bolstered by away crowds due to stadium size (unlike the other part-time sides), and has tried to implement a number of 'full-time' aspects to a part time club. I know a few Sons fans, and while they admit he has limitations, and can be naive tactically, his side from 2013/14 played some of the best football they've seen. Remember they finished 5th, 4 points off the playoffs, and out-scored all but Hamilton (who were boosted by playing Mor10n on the last day). To me, this is the appointment we should've made a year ago.

Last season we beat Celtic, who beat Barcelona. Alternatively, St Johnstone took 4 off Ross County, who beat us by 3, but got beaten by 4 by Dundee United. You can use other teams to prove any point you want to make, and I find it sad that some Saints fans will actually be happy to lose our next two games, just to see Danny Lennon sacked.

Must be tough when things are 'bubbling away'

Anything less than a win against that lot would be unacceptable! *gulp*