TopCat Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Significantly more game time than shankland also Denny has a better goal to minute played ratio than Shankland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Denny has a better goal to minute played ratio than Shankland. As there's not a lot between those stats, there's more to take into account than a goal to minute ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 The Sun saying we're interested in signing John Sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 The Sun saying we're interested in signing John Sutton. Only 32 and still a goalscorer by all means. Unfortunately he's only had 4 starts for St. Johnstone and not really a fit for their style. He'd give us a good 2 years and had an interview 2 years back where he states he still holds a soft spot for us as we saved his career at a point where it was going nowhere. I'd be very happy to see him back in the stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Only 32 and still a goalscorer by all means. Unfortunately he's only had 4 starts for St. Johnstone and not really a fit for their style. He'd give us a good 2 years and had an interview 2 years back where he states he still holds a soft spot for us as we saved his career at a point where it was going nowhere. I'd be very happy to see him back in the stripes. Aye, and someone who could supply him with decent deliveries would be an added bonus.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alansaint Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Andy Little available. Fits AR bill in terms of being able to play in lots of positions. So, does Sadlier to be fair. With Sadlier, Little, Sutton, Clarkson, (and Shankland) backed up by Morgan and McLear gives lots of options up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 New signing to be announced today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 New signing to be announced today According to Shull it must be Liam Buchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_the_saint Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 [bold]Andy Little available. Fits AR bill [/bold]in terms of being able to play in lots of positions. So, does Sadlier to be fair. With Sadlier, Little, Sutton, Clarkson, (and Shankland) backed up by Morgan and McLear gives lots of options up top. As he used to play for sevco! ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Ben Gordon by any chance ;) Thats the one :s. Was down at the shop earlier and was told about him. Wasn't until after i posted in here it had already been made official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Sutton & Clarkson would be a pretty old and immobile strikeforce. Then again, Yardley & Laverty wasn't a very mobile combination either! If we have a couple of decent wide players (Gallagher on the right and someone new on the left), then it would probably work with Clarkson playing in a deeper role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garf Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think Gallagher looked far more useful when he got a chance through the middle, I'd be more excited about the prospect of him doing the hard work, running off a guy like Sutton, with Clarkson as back up. His pace and tenacity makes him useful enough as a winger, but he's not a natural wide player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think Gallagher looked far more useful when he got a chance through the middle, I'd be more excited about the prospect of him doing the hard work, running off a guy like Sutton, with Clarkson as back up. His pace and tenacity makes him useful enough as a winger, but he's not a natural wide player. Jimmy Nichol and Alex Rae (and me) would not agree with that. Nichol had Gallagher at Cowdenbeath and played him wide saying that Gallagher needed space to control the ball and run and people. He could be ineffective when tightly marked as a striker. Murray played him as a striker and he was poor. Rae moved him wide and he looks a far better player. We do need legs through the middle but I do not think Gallagher is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think Gallagher looked far more useful when he got a chance through the middle, I'd be more excited about the prospect of him doing the hard work, running off a guy like Sutton, with Clarkson as back up. His pace and tenacity makes him useful enough as a winger, but he's not a natural wide player. I thought when he was paired up front with shankland at home for one game and again through at alloa in december he looked more effective as you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I thought when he was paired up front with shankland at home for one game and again through at alloa in december he looked more effective as you say ETA or just as effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 there must be a decent striker coming through our youth academy the last one I can remember that got a chance was Thomas riley we need younger players on longer deals.not 30+ strikers for a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 there must be a decent striker coming through our youth academy the last one I can remember that got a chance was Thomas riley we need younger players on longer deals.not 30+ strikers for a season. I would say Barry Lavety We have a poor record with forwards Every single season the forwards are let go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 there must be a decent striker coming through our youth academy the last one I can remember that got a chance was Thomas riley we need younger players on longer deals.not 30+ strikers for a season. ...would you have given Riley a longer deal since he is now a superstar with Elgin? Or waste money by giving untested players long term contracts? All Clubs get only a handful of players that make it to the first team - I reckon we do better than many due to David Longwell's years of hard graft. So we have not had a striker in donkey's years but we signed Shankland on loan and he did the business. It would be nice to have a striker now and then but as long as the conveyor belt keeps producing we take what comes off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 ...would you have given Riley a longer deal since he is now a superstar with Elgin? Or waste money by giving untested players long term contracts? All Clubs get only a handful of players that make it to the first team - I reckon we do better than many due to David Longwell's years of hard graft. So we have not had a striker in donkey's years but we signed Shankland on loan and he did the business. It would be nice to have a striker now and then but as long as the conveyor belt keeps producing we take what comes off it. Still poor though Attracting young forward players to the club Going back to the last century to the last success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 I would say Barry Lavety We have a poor record with forwards Every single season the forwards are let go Steven McGarry but aye, we seem to be poor at producing forwards compared to other areas of the team. Guys like Reilly and McKenna come into the fringes of the team and look impressive in their wee bursts but then, for whatever reason, fall by the wayside. Then there are other players like Smith and Brady who appear from the bench a few times then vanish back to the reserves. I reckon McGarry, Lavety, McKenna and Reilly are the only strikers to have come through the youth set-up to have scored for us this century, which is crap considering that's their main role. By comparison, three home grown defenders (Baird, Stewart and Kelly) scored for us just last season and it would probably have been four had Naismith not got injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 As long as we fill some positions from the Academy then the Academy is doing its job. We probably produce more good midfielders than most clubs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 To be fair, it's a position that most clubs of our stature struggle to develop. Stevie May, who s hardly setting the heather on fire down south, is one of the few I can think of. Even Muirhead from Killie, who seemed a decent prospect, seems to have lost his way since going to Dundee Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley brazilians Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 That's true about the midfielders and defenders just fustrating that we can't produce equal quality strikers. but I would like to see us at least pick up a younger striker.i didn't think much of Clarkson last season.also will never know if Shankland needed half a season under Murray to get going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Good strikers are like hens teeth. Those that show any promise at a young age are hoovered up by the big clubs, and if they don't make it there, fall out of the game completely. I also think that these silly little goals that the youngsters use are far too small - the big lad usually ends up in goal and there's hee-haw room for the ball to get through him. Bigger sets of sticks and encourage youngsters to place the ball away from the keeper. Dear God, when I played for the primary school team we played at the Racecourse on full size pitches. Rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 To be fair, it's a position that most clubs of our stature struggle to develop. Stevie May, who s hardly setting the heather on fire down south, is one of the few I can think of. Even Muirhead from Killie, who seemed a decent prospect, seems to have lost his way since going to Dundee Utd. It would help if we had some kind of scouting system Tie in with the local P&D boys club like we done before Last week the wee man played in a schools select trials All Renfrewshire schools sent their 3 best players from their school Most forwards where pro youth with the old firm having 4 of them All came from local boys club But the forward that caught my eye is with Morton Fecking Morton,fair enough the others bigotry can play a part Picking scraps from Murray Park and Lennoxtown will get us midfielders and defenders as shown before They don't let go their forwards so easy though,that's where big bucks could be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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