Magic Monkey Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Of the few names mentioned, none give me hope that they would improve us and help avoid a disastrous drop. And if we lose Hammil and Anton there go our goals and precious clean sheets. really struggling to think why good players would fancy us if they have other options? Hoping for a few miracles. I guess the silver lining is we're still very close to Accies, & ahead of Dundee. We don't need a miracle as such, we just to need to be marginally less shite than those two clubs over the second half of the season. But yeah, we're a much worse team without Ferdinand and Hammill. There's a lot of quality needs to be added to this squad. Will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Statistically Tommy Craig is better than Oran, and Tommy Craig didnt have all these coaches to help him Shame then he wouldn’t probably have managed to assemble a squad almost as bad as Stubbs did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DougJamie said: Statistically Tommy Craig is better than Oran, and Tommy Craig didnt have all these coaches to help him Craig had McGinn, McLean, Teale, Thompson and Goodwin to build a team around. OK had Kpenya, Flynn, King, Willock and Kellerman. Not really comparing like with like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, MenstrieSaint said: Craig had McGinn, McLean, Teale, Thompson and Goodwin to build a team around. OK had Kpenya, Flynn, King, Willock and Kellerman. Not really comparing like with like Obviously you didnt support Saints that year. Thommo and Teale were injured McGinn was 19 and McLean was played upfront as for your OK suggestions ..... how many of those u named has he played...... OK has a better squad and so far 9 less points..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Obviously you didnt support Saints that year. Thommo and Teale were injured McGinn was 19 and McLean was played upfront as for your OK suggestions ..... how many of those u named has he played...... OK has a better squad and so far 9 less points..... In your opinion. I, and I'm sure many others, disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Obviously you didnt support Saints that year. Thommo and Teale were injured McGinn was 19 and McLean was played upfront as for your OK suggestions ..... how many of those u named has he played...... OK has a better squad and so far 9 less points..... In the 2014/15 season, after 21 games, we had 11 points (won 3, drew 2, lost 16), one less than we have now, and with a team assembled by TC. There may be an argument that the current squad is better than that squad, but only because the four signings that OK has made has improved the quality immeasurably. If you're going to quote statistics, at least make sure they are accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Magic Monkey said: I guess the silver lining is we're still very close to Accies, & ahead of Dundee. We don't need a miracle as such, we just to need to be marginally less shite than those two clubs over the second half of the season. But yeah, we're a much worse team without Ferdinand and Hammill. There's a lot of quality needs to be added to this squad. Will be interesting to see what happens. You are right.. We are Not Detached (as the thread on here says). That's good news. Most of us know what we need, even if we disagree on the who. Now up to the BOD and Management to make it happen. Our Prospects Another thread says We Are Staying Up and we will, IMO. Given our first few games after the break it still looks like it will be a close run thing with no clarity until mid March. No guarantees however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 We are in this League to hopefully try and win it. We are hopelessly detached from top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, shull said: We are in this League to hopefully try and win it. We are hopelessly detached from top spot. Yes, but surely our targets need to be fluid. When it becomes apparent we might not win the league, and might not qualify for Europe, or reach the top six, or finish best of the rest, then surely 'not getting relegated' becomes the target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Smith for Scougall would be a terrible piece of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Hendo said: In the 2014/15 season, after 21 games, we had 11 points (won 3, drew 2, lost 16), one less than we have now, and with a team assembled by TC. There may be an argument that the current squad is better than that squad, but only because the four signings that OK has made has improved the quality immeasurably. If you're going to quote statistics, at least make sure they are accurate. We were 6 pts ahead of Ross county on 18 at split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, DougJamie said: We were 6 pts ahead of Ross county on 18 at split. Yeah but we sold our best player as well as the highlanders signing another dozen players or so. This time we need to be signing another 8 players and offloading double figures of those not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, Kemp said: Smith for Scougall would be a terrible piece of business. Worst case scenario , is swapping one player who can't get in the team on a regular basis , for another ! If we're talking 6 or 7 new players coming in then it's safe to say that Cammy wont be starting at all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, DougJamie said: We were 6 pts ahead of Ross county on 18 at split. Wrong again. There was no break in 2014/15, other than to accommodate cup fixtures. After game 18, we were one point ahead of County who were on 10 points. Are you relying on your memory? All of this is easily checked via Wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/23/2018 at 5:00 PM, munoz said: Supposedly only there to see his mate Ryan Edwards. Someone from our bus asked him if he was signing. Abdul Osman has signed for Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Buddie Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, FTOF said: Abdul Osman has signed for Falkirk. They are welcome to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magic Monkey said: Yes, but surely our targets need to be fluid. When it becomes apparent we might not win the league, and might not qualify for Europe, or reach the top six, or finish best of the rest, then surely 'not getting relegated' becomes the target? It will be very fluid if we get relegatit. Immense knickerwetting on here. Could not care less myself. Edited January 2, 2019 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 49 minutes ago, shull said: It will be very fluid if we get relegatit. Immense knickerwetting on here. Could not care less myself. I wouldn't be too upset. Don't want it. Don't think it will happen but if it does, as long as it's not for want of trying, then OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, shull said: It will be very fluid if we get relegatit. Immense knickerwetting on here. Could not care less myself. Me neither. It's better in the Championship. Though we stand more chance of winning a cup while we're in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Hendo said: Wrong again. There was no break in 2014/15, other than to accommodate cup fixtures. After game 18, we were one point ahead of County who were on 10 points. Are you relying on your memory? All of this is easily checked via Wikipedia. Must be a Lucid dream. We did finish on 30 pts and after McLean went we truely had a poor team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, DougJamie said: Must be a Lucid dream. We did finish on 30 pts and after McLean went we truely had a poor team We did beat County up there in January and I think were ahead of them by quite a few points in February, then they went on this crazy run of winning something like seven in nine and left us trailing in their wake. One things for sure, if this transfer window is as poor as that one, we'll definitely get relegated. Confident that won't be the case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hendo said: We did beat County up there in January and I think were ahead of them by quite a few points in February, then they went on this crazy run of winning something like seven in nine and left us trailing in their wake. One things for sure, if this transfer window is as poor as that one, we'll definitely get relegated. Confident that won't be the case though. I hear Yohan Arquin is available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Hendo said: Wrong again. There was no break in 2014/15, other than to accommodate cup fixtures. After game 18, we were one point ahead of County who were on 10 points. Are you relying on your memory? All of this is easily checked via Wikipedia. 2nd Jan and i am talking bollocks. Sorry sir your right...... i will put myself on ignore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, MenstrieSaint said: I hear Yohan Arquin is available But what would happen to the guy who is currently Paisley Panda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Aiden Nesbitt just released by MK Dons. Wide player, though no experience at our level. Looked decent on loan at Morton couple of seasons ago from Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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