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Thanks to you both@jaybee@FTOF for your input. I waffled on a lot. I agree with you both. I feel if we stuck with how we were set up the start this season might not have been as bad. I think the fact new and old players with a new system does take time. I also believe we were missing some key positions being filled before the start. I feel as we were hoofing the ball up, we were missing someone in the middle to take to ball and help move it up the park and dictate play. I hope that is Ronan from the chats of him in articles. I hope Millar brings the pace we have missed in Connolly, but brings the added engine and defence.
I like the idea of 352. Can be very versatile and attacking if have the right people. I feel at times to help with width the strikers are pulled out to aid the wing backs, but not then got the drive coming from the middle to move into the space left. I feel that was why he had McGrath and Kiltie on to do that, but wasn't working. I think the middle needs someone to cut the passes and dig in like power. It needs a box to box that I hope Ronan can be. Finally needs an attacking threat that is McGrath. I also feel to help not drag both strikers out, McGrath could be an option what ever side the Ball is at, to go support the wing back and allow them to overlap with him, he can then slink back to middle at the edge of the box.

Waffling again. I do like Jim a lot. Was my favourite player back in his playing days. I hope it all works out and it clicks for us like it did for St. Johnstone and we can push on higher again. I like that we didn't just jump for anyone (that Hibs deal I'm not sure where Wright would have fit in) and we have got Miller who should fit the system.

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Today might be the making of his 352 system with McGrath and Ronin playing in front if the back three and Kiltie , Brophey and Main up front . Hoping we get to see Miller today too . 
I would hope with Ronan and McGrath then we try keeping it on the deck and using the midfield instead of going with the route one we have so far this season. These boys should be able to help get the ball up the park with pace. Excited to see this play out as hope we get it up Utd.
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1 hour ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said:
1 hour ago, MenstrieSaint said:
Today might be the making of his 352 system with McGrath and Ronin playing in front if the back three and Kiltie , Brophey and Main up front . Hoping we get to see Miller today too . 

I would hope with Ronan and McGrath then we try keeping it on the deck and using the midfield instead of going with the route one we have so far this season. These boys should be able to help get the ball up the park with pace. Excited to see this play out as hope we get it up Utd.

Would even be happy if Flynn played in front of the back three and McGrath played further up .

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1 hour ago, MenstrieSaint said:

Today might be the making of his 352 system with McGrath and Ronin playing in front if the back three and Kiltie , Brophey and Main up front . Hoping we get to see Miller today too . 

Does not fill me with confidence Kiltie is not up to. IMHO Brophey and Main do not convince either. 

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I always have liked 3-5-2 as a formation but Goodie playing it without the personnel seemed foolish in the extreme. It may well be I was a bit previous condemning the manager as it might work out. The team as a unit would be getting accustomed to it and we may well have the players now to actually make it work. We wait and see.

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24 minutes ago, pod said:

Why don't we show interest in the likes of Scott Williamson of Cambuslang Rangers, only 20 and scoring goals for fun. We used to do well with players from the Junior ranks.  A few hidden jewels out there.

 

21 minutes ago, pod said:

Surely worth a trial.   Scott Williamson of Cambuslang Rangers, only 20 and scoring goals for fun. We used to do well with players from the Junior ranks.  A few hidden jewels out there.

Are you his father or agent or both? :lol:

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33 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

To be fair, 28 goals in 13 games so far this season does suggest he's playing at a far, far lower level than he should be.

Not necessarily, other factors come into it and the days of plenty of juniors making it to the top league are rare. 

What has he done previously, a one season wonder, football is littered with players like that. 

Anyhow, it was a throwaway comment, l don't really give a hoot. 

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Finding gems at lower levels is becoming a rare occurrence but there are still several who slip through the net ! Back  in the day we had a string of players who came straight into our first team from Junior Football. When Scouts go out to look at a player they can usually tell after a few watches if the guy has got it for a higher level or not. I remember 30 years back  when I was with Kilbarchan Thistle Amateurs , we had a few decent players , some ex seniors and ex juniors but we had one player who I still can't believe didn't play at a higher level , he had everything. We had won a Scottish Amateur Cup Quarter Final replay on the Saturday at Coatbridge 7-3 aet , and the player had scored 4 goals in extra time. On the Monday night my phone was red hot , Eddie Hunter , Alex McDonald and John Lambie all phoned wanting the player out on trial , they were gobsmacked when I told them he was 28 years old. He ended up playing a game for Airdrie v Killie and scored twice but they never followed up their interest. If the Cambuslang player has got the attributes to play at a higher level , his goals will have alerted clubs and they will already be watching him !

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Knew a guy in my teenage days who was a cracking player =- a real natural talent. Captained his school team to 2 Cup successes, and was offered trials with 3 senior clubs that I know of, including Saints. Told them all he wasn't interested. Just wanted to play football and didn't want to have to train every day and be told what they thought he needed to improve in his game. Was still playing amateur at 50, and was still one of the best players on the park.

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I have played with plenty of players who were in the senior game. Some I couldn't believe played that level as they were poorest player on the pitch. Again the other side plenty who should have played a higher level but for some reason never played any higher than junior. Still seeing it to this day as who you know and right kind of boy are pushed forward than ability 

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On 9/20/2021 at 6:18 PM, windae cleaner said:

I have played with plenty of players who were in the senior game. Some I couldn't believe played that level as they were poorest player on the pitch. Again the other side plenty who should have played a higher level but for some reason never played any higher than junior. Still seeing it to this day as who you know and right kind of boy are pushed forward than ability 

Yip but the difference is a willingness to train and natural fitness. See for example McAllister for us. He's never going to play to a level his ability should have taken him too.

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9 hours ago, JJ McG said:

Not a chance.

Correct. He'll either continue to excel on the park and be without health/fitness issues, in which case Hibs will extend his contract or his health/fitness issues will continue to dog him and Hibs will get rid of him, in which case any club would be taking a huge risk by signing him.

If Scott Allan's long term health wasn't an issue, then there's not a chance he'd have been used as a makeweight in the McGrath deal.

A fully healthy Allan on a couple of years deal would have been a great signing for us. However, there would always have been that "what if" scenario.

However, it seems that the club were willing to take the risk.

 

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