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Our Greenock neighbours have joined the heroes from Raith Rovers and Firhill and publicly said 'NO to newco/sevco in SFL'.

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Why doesn't SPL's SG get it over and done wi?

That's a bloody good question.

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Our Greenock neighbours have joined the heroes from Raith Rovers and Firhill and publicly said 'NO to newco/sevco in SFL'.

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Why doesn't SPL's SG get it over and done wi?

Delighted to hear that - I was worried my wee team might do the unthinkable. Now we are in a position were m*rt*n have more integrity than us. unsure.png

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It merely confirms they're not wanted in div 1 by Morton, but the paper's spin is that they should go straight into div 3.

I disagree with that and believe they will find resistance to their 'automatic' presence, even there.

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It merely confirms they're not wanted in div 1 by Morton, but the paper's spin is that they should go straight into div 3.

I disagree with that and believe they will find resistance to their 'automatic' presence, even there.

SKY's rather soggy reporter out at ipox is now reporting it as serious doubts over their survival rather than what league they will be in. Green appears to be losing the plot....liked this bit - "Ive learnt not to expect the expected at scumgers". It all unravelling for him as he starts to see the real scumgers and how reviled they are in Scotland.

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RAITH ROVERS director Turnbull Hutton insists the First Division should reject an Ibrox newco after his

club were subjected to threats and intimidation during Rangers’ demise.

The former Stark’s Park chairman is adamant the SFL would be doing a deal with the devil if they backed plans to allow direct entry into the second tier for Charles Green’s newco.

Hutton highlighted the treatment of fellow director Eric Drysdale, who received death threats in April after he was named as a member of the SFA judicial panel that dished out a 12-month transfer embargo on Rangers.

With SFL member clubs set to meet next week to discuss a variety of possible reforms for the Scottish game, Hutton launched an astonishing tirade against Rangers and their supporters and insisted there will be no trade-off or deals cut as Raith put their conscience before financial gain.

He said: “This is the same Rangers whose supporters threatened to torch our stadium and whose manager demanded one of our directors was named over his involvement with an SFA judicial panel.

“That resulted in TV cameras camping outside his door and threats being made by various outlandish factions.

“We also had Sandy Jardine publicly calling for repercussions for those clubs who have not supported Rangers.

“Given that, how could I be expected to roll over and have my tummy tickled by some inducement to allow Rangers to come into the First Division.

“I gave my opinion to the board on Monday night and the board had a position which was not in any way different from my own.

“That does not mean a vote will go the way we want it to go.

“I imagine some clubs will see some short-term advantage.

“But if long-term you cheese off your season ticket-holders and supporters and backers is it

worth it?

“Do you sell your position for 30 pieces of silver for some short-term advantage or take the moral high ground?”

The growing clamour for Rangers to start again in the Third Division has already been backed by Falkirk with Dunfermline and Partick Thistle both consulting their supporters before going public with their views.

And Hutton revealed Raith fans have been flooding the club with messages urging them to not to support any plan that will see a newco enter Division One.

Hutton said: “We have been inundated with emails. People are holding off on buying season tickets until they find out what is happening with some fans of 25 years saying they’ll not return if we back the Rangers proposals.

“With what is happening with the SPL clubs it seems to have been punted on to the SFL clubs to solve the problem, a problem which is none of our doing.”

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RAITH ROVERS director Turnbull Hutton insists the First Division should reject an Ibrox newco after his

club were subjected to threats and intimidation during Rangers’ demise.

The former Stark’s Park chairman is adamant the SFL would be doing a deal with the devil if they backed plans to allow direct entry into the second tier for Charles Green’s newco.

Hutton highlighted the treatment of fellow director Eric Drysdale, who received death threats in April after he was named as a member of the SFA judicial panel that dished out a 12-month transfer embargo on Rangers.

With SFL member clubs set to meet next week to discuss a variety of possible reforms for the Scottish game, Hutton launched an astonishing tirade against Rangers and their supporters and insisted there will be no trade-off or deals cut as Raith put their conscience before financial gain.

He said: “This is the same Rangers whose supporters threatened to torch our stadium and whose manager demanded one of our directors was named over his involvement with an SFA judicial panel.

“That resulted in TV cameras camping outside his door and threats being made by various outlandish factions.

“We also had Sandy Jardine publicly calling for repercussions for those clubs who have not supported Rangers.

“Given that, how could I be expected to roll over and have my tummy tickled by some inducement to allow Rangers to come into the First Division.

“I gave my opinion to the board on Monday night and the board had a position which was not in any way different from my own.

“That does not mean a vote will go the way we want it to go.

“I imagine some clubs will see some short-term advantage.

“But if long-term you cheese off your season ticket-holders and supporters and backers is it

worth it?

“Do you sell your position for 30 pieces of silver for some short-term advantage or take the moral high ground?”

The growing clamour for Rangers to start again in the Third Division has already been backed by Falkirk with Dunfermline and Partick Thistle both consulting their supporters before going public with their views.

And Hutton revealed Raith fans have been flooding the club with messages urging them to not to support any plan that will see a newco enter Division One.

Hutton said: “We have been inundated with emails. People are holding off on buying season tickets until they find out what is happening with some fans of 25 years saying they’ll not return if we back the Rangers proposals.

“With what is happening with the SPL clubs it seems to have been punted on to the SFL clubs to solve the problem, a problem which is none of our doing.”

I'm right behind Mr Hutton, let's hope the other 1st division clubs back this brave man and tell this rancid excuse for a football club to f**k off !!

Edit to add, there can be no excuses given in any shape or form for the behaviour of both McCoist and Jardine.

Edited by class of 76-77

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John "bomber" Brown - unfortunate nickname considering the behaviour of some scumgers fans of late.....is launching a fans bid to takeover scumgers. I doubt this will be good news for Green who needs to aply for the sfa license by Friday. Donald Findlay QC is also involved. lol.gif

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I appreciate our Chairman is a busy man so I've compiled what I think is a short and to the point press release for Stewart Gilmour with regard to what the St Mirren advice to Sevco should be

You there, Sevco; f**k off. And when you get there, f**k off from there too.

Then f**k off some more. Keep f**king off until you get back here.

Then f**k off again !

From all at St Mirren

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John "bomber" Brown - unfortunate nickname considering the behaviour of some scumgers fans of late.....is launching a fans bid to takeover scumgers. I doubt this will be good news for Green who needs to aply for the sfa license by Friday. Donald Findlay QC is also involved. lol.gif

Chairman of Cowdenbeath, wonder how they'll vote? :whistle

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Chairman of Cowdenbeath, wonder how they'll vote? whistling.gif

There's been a bit of chat that if newco are refused entry to the SFL then they'll buy Cowdenbeath.

Definitely a bit fishy that Donald Findlay has been linked to this imaginary takeover by John Brown. He is, however, Cowdenbeath born and bred. Would he and Green stoop so low to wipe out another old football club to get into the 1st division?

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There's been a bit of chat that if newco are refused entry to the SFL then they'll buy Cowdenbeath.

Definitely a bit fishy that Donald Findlay has been linked to this imaginary takeover by John Brown. He is, however, Cowdenbeath born and bred. Would he and Green stoop so low to wipe out another old football club to get into the 1st division?

I have no doubt. Don't think Findlay is the majority shareholder though so it wouldn't be up to him.

Interestingly it was feared a couple of years ago that Spartans could try to take over Cowdenbeath.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/cowdenbeath-fans-fear-spartans-takeover-as-owners-try-to-cut-losses-1-797137

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I have no doubt. Don't think Findlay is the majority shareholder though so it wouldn't be up to him.

Interestingly it was feared a couple of years ago that Spartans could try to take over Cowdenbeath.

http://www.scotsman....losses-1-797137

I know the owners of Cowdenbeath fairly well and would suggest they had original bought the ground to sell to a supermarket and relocate to a new stadium but that fell flat. They would be fairly interested in getting rid quickly and Donald Findley did or still does sit on the Board.

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I know the owners of Cowdenbeath fairly well and would suggest they had original bought the ground to sell to a supermarket and relocate to a new stadium but that fell flat. They would be fairly interested in getting rid quickly and Donald Findley did or still does sit on the Board.

Bizarrely enough the fans don't fancy the idea as it would bring their club's intergrity into question:

http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=223970

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Zombie related article quoting Stuart Gilmour in today's PDE:

http://www.paisleydailyexpress.co.uk/renfrewshire-sport/renfrewshire-football/renfrewshire-football-st-mirren/2012/06/27/87085-31267620/

WTF!!!!!!!!!

Our Chairman would appear to be backing entry of the hvns at SFL1

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Zombie related article quoting Stuart Gilmour in today's PDE:

http://www.paisleyda...87085-31267620/

WTF!!!!!!!!!

Our Chairman would appear to be backing entry of the hvns at SFL1

You've got to hand it to Stewart. He certainly knows how to grab defeat from the jaws of victory.

He is making the arrogant mistake of thinking SFL clubs would just die at the chance of selling their souls for a few pounds.

It's almost sweet that he was surprised at two clubs saying no to that and not just any two clubs either - Raith and Falkirk are clubs which are struggling financially.

For them to say no to this takes genuine courage.

IMO there simply isn't anything in it for the SFL clubs.

If SevCo go to the 1st division 20 clubs out of 29 don't get to play them and only a small amount of cash comes their way which they've never had and wouldn't really miss. Seriously, what do SPL chairmen think Albion Rovers would do with 50k? Who the hell could they sign?

If SevCo go to Div 3, then every other team gives up promotion killing their league.

IMO SPL chairmen are making a mistake thinking SFL clubs can be bought.

Neither will they buy the pyramid thing.

I genuinely believe the SFL will tell SevCo to GTF.

Annan talked about Spartans getting their chance and I agree.

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Our Chairman would appear to be backing entry of the hvns at SFL1

The ways he's thinking though there wouldn't be an SFL1.

If there's agreement on going to a 16 team league then what we might see is a new vote where the 1st division clubs are asked to take Newco in 2012/13. For 2013/14 we'd then go to an SPL1 and 2 with maybe 16 teams in each.

I want the blue bigots punished but, let's face it, we all know they'll be back in the not too distant future. Status quo in the leagues and newco in Division 3 or newco in Division 1 with the promise of a 16 team league. Would go for the latter every time.

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I bet he never dreamed he's have the scumgers mark 2 named after him?

Seb Coe

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The ways he's thinking though there wouldn't be an SFL1.

If there's agreement on going to a 16 team league then what we might see is a new vote where the 1st division clubs are asked to take Newco in 2012/13. For 2013/14 we'd then go to an SPL1 and 2 with maybe 16 teams in each.

I want the blue bigots punished but, let's face it, we all know they'll be back in the not too distant future. Status quo in the leagues and newco in Division 3 or newco in Division 1 with the #

promise of a 16 team league. Would go for the latter every time.

Do we? Seriously.Of the clubs in the SFL who have expressed an opinion I haven't seen one which looked favourably on Sevco's bid for League entry so, unless Green does go down the "Harlem Globetrotters" route how can the hope to keep a team, any team, together?

The end may be nigh for the blue brigade.

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