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Fools gold for everyone.

Just $10 dollars Americano a month exchangeable for the blind trust and the waco like following of a Mirren Messiah, a Stranger who came out of the west.

He said, ‘’I employ 400’’. It was proven he didn’t. The villagers ignored this truth. ‘‘Yea’’ he said believe in me. And they did. Lawd above, he even admitted he was using them and they not only accepted it but were prepared to foot the bill for it!

They swallowed the stinging criticism of one of his posse, a cowpoke known as the Kibble Kid, a man not fit to lace the boots of the club ‘legend’ they persuaded to act as their frontman. The KK, a man who felt it appropriate to insult them and their club at the first public meeting held in their own new stadium (not his, he’s not a Saints fan either, shellik I think) and ask ‘‘it makes you wonder what they (the board) have been doing for the last ten years, followed by ‘‘why has it taken US to come in and sort all this out?’’ Hot damn and the followers swallowed this stuff content to bankroll a new outside outfit controlled by the Stranger where not a dime, peso or penny would go to the club.

The Stranger and his posse (a couple of honchos and a whole lot of freeloaders in the boardroom at home games) continued to tell the fans they would have a say in the club. The villagers gathered in the village square. Some of them so blind tried to take their fellow Saints fans with them. They posted. Follow him, follow the Stranger, he knows best. We are willing to be an experiment, we know we won’t own the club but this is best. If it fails we will just go back to the way we were. It’s enough to make a St Sad sad. So they followed blindly without any REAL question or scrutiny. They defended him, made excuses for having dirt - as opposed to paydirt - kicked in their faces. They attended meetings, when they were actually held. They gave their private banking details to unknown strangers. Later some even posted that they hoped their bank details had not been lost. Boy howdy did they trust.

Then the backers pulled the six shooters out when a whole selection of concerned FELLOW FANS voiced concerns. Their answer was to ridicule and demand alternatives, even though the alternative is and was the status quo (no not that status quo) until normal business practice is re-introduced. Nobody ever suggested that the board revert to individuals and do not act as a bloc of shares.

There was no darned need for an alternative to be suggested. The agenda was being set by the board and the Stranger was a central part of that process. As sundown followed sundown some fans even started to do the Stranger’s job for him, because he was doing a fair impression of hiding out with the hole in the wall gang. Where was he? Where is he? Boo hoo why won’t he talk to us? One or two even suggested the cic was a done deal. Tumbleweed rolled by.

Good results on the pitch helped divert attention. Transparent information was lacking. The fans can wait was the attitude. Meetings were called, meetings were cancelled ­– tomorrow ­- we only need three weeks. The wagons were circled.

Where are those darned direct debits. Have they been returned to the senders? Will the forms be returned? Who is storing them? Are they registered to legally collect this information? Have any fans called the club to find out? No. They’ve given their personal banking details to the stranger who is informing them in a transparent and businesslike way each and every day. Don’t worry. Don’t question.

Behind the scenes the Stranger has lost the support of all staff.

He has brought nothing of substance to our club.

He has proved beyond all doubt that marketing is not his forte.

Cancel Christmas. We have no shop to speak of.

No real Saints gear on sale.

Leave your strip for days just to letter, then phone, call, send a pigeon, telegraph to find out what’s happening.

JD staff still tell fans they don’t sell Saints strips.

The deal is worth much less than Provans.

His mini programme failed.

The laundry was a washout.

Soaking $1.50 from whippersnappers mobile phones has thankfully stopped.

Other scary stuff never made it to the fans.

The big backers on forums have gone to ground.

Other clubs are dumbfounded.

The club has not been held up and delivered into the hands of a bunch of amateurs funded by the fans and the taxpayers while they swan around the boardroom and pow wow about how the cic will pay its debts with smisa’s and fans’ dollars. WHERE DO SMISA STAND NOW? St Mirren fans who HAVE put cash into the club on more than one occasion meet soon. How about a statement before the club AGM SMISA pardners.

The Stranger has not succeeded in swiping taxpayers’ loot and putting in place a three board structure that could only lead to disagreement and argument.

There is no place for the Stranger in all of this. He is commercial director and has overseen a strip deal devoid of hard cash. A commercial operation he has put in shackles and darned well hog tied. Seen the club ridiculed in the press over laundry, church services, and a shambles of cic launch. All of this while posters who would have previously slaughtered Provans/ the commercial department /the club/the board for just an itty bitty fraction of this say hee haw or complain. There is no way back. Credibility is gone. Would you buy a cart from this man?

The Stranger rode into our town with a fistful of counterfeit dollars. His and the cic’s credibility have gone. Time he rode out again on a buroo which is where I might end up with a script like this (I blame the six). He does not own a company that employees 400 and I may just be one of them!

St Mirren is a football club. It and the fans come first. They do not deserve to be an experiment. The cic would ultimately destroy our club. For a taste of the future just look at the way ordinary decent fans have been treated by a stranger who has said he would inevitably be bossman. That’s the reality of the future management style of the cic. Why would any villager want to pay $10 a month for the privilege of being no more than window dressing?

It was always fools gold. The cic is dead, worse the Stranger knows it.

Mr. Brynner and his six side cics.

Good stuff Yull ? Made my eye's bleed at times, But You cowboy - I Like your Style ! Can ah join your Posse ?

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Fools gold for everyone.

Just $10 dollars Americano a month exchangeable for the blind trust and the waco like following of a Mirren Messiah, a Stranger who came out of the west.

He said, ‘’I employ 400’’. It was proven he didn’t. The villagers ignored this truth. ‘‘Yea’’ he said believe in me. And they did. Lawd above, he even admitted he was using them and they not only accepted it but were prepared to foot the bill for it!

They swallowed the stinging criticism of one of his posse, a cowpoke known as the Kibble Kid, a man not fit to lace the boots of the club ‘legend’ they persuaded to act as their frontman. The KK, a man who felt it appropriate to insult them and their club at the first public meeting held in their own new stadium (not his, he’s not a Saints fan either, shellik I think) and ask ‘‘it makes you wonder what they (the board) have been doing for the last ten years, followed by ‘‘why has it taken US to come in and sort all this out?’’ Hot damn and the followers swallowed this stuff content to bankroll a new outside outfit controlled by the Stranger where not a dime, peso or penny would go to the club.

The Stranger and his posse (a couple of honchos and a whole lot of freeloaders in the boardroom at home games) continued to tell the fans they would have a say in the club. The villagers gathered in the village square. Some of them so blind tried to take their fellow Saints fans with them. They posted. Follow him, follow the Stranger, he knows best. We are willing to be an experiment, we know we won’t own the club but this is best. If it fails we will just go back to the way we were. It’s enough to make a St Sad sad. So they followed blindly without any REAL question or scrutiny. They defended him, made excuses for having dirt - as opposed to paydirt - kicked in their faces. They attended meetings, when they were actually held. They gave their private banking details to unknown strangers. Later some even posted that they hoped their bank details had not been lost. Boy howdy did they trust.

Then the backers pulled the six shooters out when a whole selection of concerned FELLOW FANS voiced concerns. Their answer was to ridicule and demand alternatives, even though the alternative is and was the status quo (no not that status quo) until normal business practice is re-introduced. Nobody ever suggested that the board revert to individuals and do not act as a bloc of shares.

There was no darned need for an alternative to be suggested. The agenda was being set by the board and the Stranger was a central part of that process. As sundown followed sundown some fans even started to do the Stranger’s job for him, because he was doing a fair impression of hiding out with the hole in the wall gang. Where was he? Where is he? Boo hoo why won’t he talk to us? One or two even suggested the cic was a done deal. Tumbleweed rolled by.

Good results on the pitch helped divert attention. Transparent information was lacking. The fans can wait was the attitude. Meetings were called, meetings were cancelled ­– tomorrow ­- we only need three weeks. The wagons were circled.

Where are those darned direct debits. Have they been returned to the senders? Will the forms be returned? Who is storing them? Are they registered to legally collect this information? Have any fans called the club to find out? No. They’ve given their personal banking details to the stranger who is informing them in a transparent and businesslike way each and every day. Don’t worry. Don’t question.

Behind the scenes the Stranger has lost the support of all staff.

He has brought nothing of substance to our club.

He has proved beyond all doubt that marketing is not his forte.

Cancel Christmas. We have no shop to speak of.

No real Saints gear on sale.

Leave your strip for days just to letter, then phone, call, send a pigeon, telegraph to find out what’s happening.

JD staff still tell fans they don’t sell Saints strips.

The deal is worth much less than Provans.

His mini programme failed.

The laundry was a washout.

Soaking $1.50 from whippersnappers mobile phones has thankfully stopped.

Other scary stuff never made it to the fans.

The big backers on forums have gone to ground.

Other clubs are dumbfounded.

The club has not been held up and delivered into the hands of a bunch of amateurs funded by the fans and the taxpayers while they swan around the boardroom and pow wow about how the cic will pay its debts with smisa’s and fans’ dollars. WHERE DO SMISA STAND NOW? St Mirren fans who HAVE put cash into the club on more than one occasion meet soon. How about a statement before the club AGM SMISA pardners.

The Stranger has not succeeded in swiping taxpayers’ loot and putting in place a three board structure that could only lead to disagreement and argument.

There is no place for the Stranger in all of this. He is commercial director and has overseen a strip deal devoid of hard cash. A commercial operation he has put in shackles and darned well hog tied. Seen the club ridiculed in the press over laundry, church services, and a shambles of cic launch. All of this while posters who would have previously slaughtered Provans/ the commercial department /the club/the board for just an itty bitty fraction of this say hee haw or complain. There is no way back. Credibility is gone. Would you buy a cart from this man?

The Stranger rode into our town with a fistful of counterfeit dollars. His and the cic’s credibility have gone. Time he rode out again on a buroo which is where I might end up with a script like this (I blame the six). He does not own a company that employees 400 and I may just be one of them!

St Mirren is a football club. It and the fans come first. They do not deserve to be an experiment. The cic would ultimately destroy our club. For a taste of the future just look at the way ordinary decent fans have been treated by a stranger who has said he would inevitably be bossman. That’s the reality of the future management style of the cic. Why would any villager want to pay $10 a month for the privilege of being no more than window dressing?

It was always fools gold. The cic is dead, worse the Stranger knows it.

Mr. Brynner and his six side cics.

Welcome back , Siddeley. .

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Obviously 10000 hours will be holding a press conference tomorrow to pour cold water over Yul's bulletin....... aye rightbye1.gif

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Disappointing to wait all this time for Yul to reappear and all we get is exactly the same allegations with zero substance and zero facts that we have seen posted a hundred times before.

To be fair , the substance and the facts should have been gleaned before now from the people that asked for everyones bank details ?

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I have an idea for a new summer festival... It will rival TITP and Glasto!

Yawnfest - headlining act: Yul

I read paragraph 1, saw that it was the same old boring shit. Realised there were another 10 paragraphs of shit and do stopped. Come back with news you are willing to share.

Boring of the highest order.

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To be fair , the substance and the facts should have been gleaned before now from the people that asked for everyones bank details ?

Like it was at the three public meetings you mean ?

Just to clarify, those meetings were open to ANYONE pro or anti CIC yet apart from one dissenting voice in the shape of Michelle Evans, not a single other person voiced their concerns at these meetings.

Yet, we are supposed to give credence to someone that hides behind an Internet alias, posting completely baseless allegations about the CIC on a public forum ?

Here is a question for Yul, to prove his credentials, let's pick one nugget from his latest post.

Can you tell us please how much the provan deal was worth to the club versus the one with JD sports?

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Like it was at the three public meetings you mean ?

Just to clarify, those meetings were open to ANYONE pro or anti CIC yet apart from one dissenting voice in the shape of Michelle Evans, not a single other person voiced their concerns at these meetings.

Yet, we are supposed to give credence to someone that hides behind an Internet alias, posting completely baseless allegations about the CIC on a public forum ?

Here is a question for Yul, to prove his credentials, let's pick one nugget from his latest post.

Can you tell us please how much the provan deal was worth to the club versus the one with JD sports?

I'd like to know the figures on that too!

As I understand it (Feel free to disagree) The Provan's deal saw the club buy/provide Provan,s with the kit and there was a split on profit of each sold, where as the JD is a straightforward fixed amount probably subject to review on numbers sold over a stated period.

The Provan's deal means a regular income (Possibly better margin) in exchange for an initial outlay (Stock holding), JD is more along selling under licence on SMFC's behalf and although you save on stock holding and advance purchases generally you lose out on margin as you are not taking the risk and making the outlay, JD/Cabrini take that on.

A quick check around most club's with a professional/organised/business led function shows most buy and sell their own strips for the margin and instant cashflow, with the bigger ones agreeing a sales under licence with major sports retailers too. But they play heavily on the fact that to buy direct is to give the best support to the club! Something that we as saints fans are currently denied in any meaningful way.

First rule of retailing! you have to know, love and sing the praises of your product if you are to have any hope of selling it to someone else. That can, t be said of SMFC at present the fans are losing touch with the club when it comes to merchandise and that must be affecting revenue streams, which in turn will lead to disengagement with the fans/customers as they are effectively being discouraged to associate merchandise purchases with directly supporting the club.

It does however reveal a pattern of thinking and decision making of an extremely naive business nature: that being the belief that you can make profit and turnover solely reliant on someone else putting up the capital..... ring any bells?

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Like it was at the three public meetings you mean ?

That was when everything looked rosy , REA and his representative on here couldn't wait to get in among us and tell us all the positive things that were just around the corner!

Would you be in the least surprised if everything Yul is spouting is in fact true , 'cos I wouldn't be surprised at all.

For one , I know for a fact that the McGeoch "note of interest" has gone much further than that , yet we're all kept in the dark.

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That was when everything looked rosy , REA and his representative on here couldn't wait to get in among us and tell us all the positive things that were just around the corner!

Would you be in the least surprised if everything Yul is spouting is in fact true , 'cos I wouldn't be surprised at all.

For one , I know for a fact that the McGeoch "note of interest" has gone much further than that , yet we're all kept in the dark.

Yeah seems like it's been kept under wraps to sweeten the pill at the AGM when they have to front up about the demise of 10000 hours, but then move swiftly to the new proposal. Not good form!

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It does however reveal a pattern of thinking and decision making of an extremely naive business nature: that being the belief that you can make profit and turnover solely reliant on someone else putting up the capital..... ring any bells?

Not really... Who's it supposed to remind us of? The selling consortium who put in the own money, risked their businesses, affected their health and broke up their marriages a lot of which was for the love of the club?

Or is it supposed to remind us of REA who will stand to gain nothing financially from the success of the CiC? But, the town, the fans and the club will ultimately thrive?

Who is it supposed to remind us of?

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Not really... Who's it supposed to remind us of? The selling consortium who put in the own money, risked their businesses, affected their health and broke up their marriages a lot of which was for the love of the club?

Or is it supposed to remind us of REA who will stand to gain nothing financially from the success of the CiC? But, the town, the fans and the club will ultimately thrive?

Who is it supposed to remind us of?

You,ve obviously got it there, a fifty-fifty chanceclap.gif

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