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I made and sent a calender for my Aunt and Uncle in Australia using pictures I got from various Paisley sites and Facebook pages. Plenty of pictures similar to this there to be found.

attachicon.gifGordon St.jpg

That photo damned nearly pulled the old heartstrings. It seemed oh so familiar. Lews clothing store was a fixture there for years and I remember Johnstone's family butchers well too. And a good old SMT Red bus sneaking out of the garage. For a few years while I was at Camphill a crowd of us went to the BR for lunch every day so went up and down Gordon Street at least twice a day.It was the initials for British Restaurant and from memory it was heavily subsidised as a kind of restaurant for the poorer off. It was just beside what is now the Watermill. Are there any pictures of it to view?

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Like RickMcD I too went to the BR from Camphill. In the early sixties my wee auntie was the manageress and I used to get man- sized portions. Happy days!! She eventually moved to manage the Stanely Green kitchen when I left school in '62

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That photo damned nearly pulled the old heartstrings. It seemed oh so familiar. Lews clothing store was a fixture there for years and I remember Johnstone's family butchers well too. And a good old SMT Red bus sneaking out of the garage. For a few years while I was at Camphill a crowd of us went to the BR for lunch every day so went up and down Gordon Street at least twice a day.It was the initials for British Restaurant and from memory it was heavily subsidised as a kind of restaurant for the poorer off. It was just beside what is now the Watermill. Are there any pictures of it to view?

I presume you had A GOOD LOOK at mcd54's overhead Paisley pic in the Langs thread... ? :whistle:

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Like RickMcD I too went to the BR from Camphill. In the early sixties my wee auntie was the manageress and I used to get man- sized portions. Happy days!! She eventually moved to manage the Stanely Green kitchen when I left school in '62

We must have been in there at the same time on stacks of occasions. If i remember rightly there were two different prices for big or smaller portions. I loved their shepherds pie and steamed pudding and custard. The staff were always great but took no nonsense from anybody.

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I presume you had A GOOD LOOK at mcd54's overhead Paisley pic in the Langs thread... ? whistling.gif:

You're right, I bloody missed it! Had to put my specs on because I thought it was just an empty site. What was all round it back then? Damned if I remember.

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Hey guys. The Council are now considering an application to demolish yet another historical building - Blackhall House. It is very easy to submit an objection if you are so inclined - took me about 2 mins. Don't let the bastards destroy everything ....

More info here ... https://www.facebook.com/paisleyoorweetoon?fref=ts and http://pl.renfrewshire.gov.uk/online…/applicationDetails.do…

Edit: 'Cause I made a mistook :)

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You had me confused there for a minute until I realised it was BlackHALL House, in Blackhall Lane. I worked in there when I was sixteen - over 30 years ago now. To be honest, it might be listed but, from what I recall, it was a shitty building back then so f**k knows what it is like now. There was a MIM place down Blackhall Lane, as well as companies that designed river and sea dredges (Alluvial Dredges Ltd and Seadrec Ltd).

My step father worked in that building also, for Seadrec IIRC

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You had me confused there for a minute until I realised it was BlackHALL House, in Blackhall Lane. I worked in there when I was sixteen - over 30 years ago now. To be honest, it might be listed but, from what I recall, it was a shitty building back then so f**k knows what it is like now. There was a MIM place down Blackhall Lane, as well as companies that designed river and sea dredges (Alluvial Dredges Ltd and Seadrec Ltd).

OOps. Now corrected :)

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Hey guys. The Council are now considering an application to demolish yet another historical building - Blackhall House. It is very easy to submit an objection if you are so inclined - took me about 2 mins. Don't let the bastards destroy everything ....

More info here ... https://www.facebook.com/paisleyoorweetoon?fref=ts and http://pl.renfrewshire.gov.uk/online…/applicationDetails.do…

Edit: 'Cause I made a mistook smile.png

I would rather see it demolished than looking like it does now TBH,

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Fair enough Buddiecat.

I was at Camden Town recently and a similar building next to the lock waterfront has been converted into artist studios and shops. The atmosphere was exciting with tourists milling about browsing record shops, boutiques, and trying the various outdoor eating establishments or having a beer. I just wish Paisley would think outside the box a wee bit and see the potential in their old historic buildings instead of demolishing them to replace them with short-life and aesthetically horrendous constructions like the Piazza or housing estates like the Ferguslie Mills.

In Dublin 50 years ago the Council decided to maintain some of its historical buildings by offering incentives to developers. Some were repossessed as the developer did not work on them; some were given to developers to revitalise; some were allowed various Council Tax breaks if they took a building on. There are plenty of brown-field sites around for new developments in Paisley.

Entice Developers to take on the historic buildings for re-development. Soon the the birth-place (and I know about the roots in India) of the Paisley Pattern will have no friggin buildings left that were part of the biggest cotton/silk/weaving industrial complex in the world. We'll have a bland town of wee empty concrete office blocks, estates and charity shops. Get people into the town centre instead of driving them away. We have got to start saying NO MORE to the planners! Rant over smile.png

EDIT to Add. A Development company from Edinburgh want to build friggin more houses on the site.

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Hey guys. The Council are now considering an application to demolish yet another historical building - Blackhall House. It is very easy to submit an objection if you are so inclined - took me about 2 mins. Don't let the bastards destroy everything ....

More info here ... https://www.facebook.com/paisleyoorweetoon?fref=ts and http://pl.renfrewshire.gov.uk/online…/applicationDetails.do…

Edit: 'Cause I made a mistook smile.png

I read it as redeveloping Blackhall House and demolishing Hamilton and Anchor House. Correct me if I'm wrong.

...or is that just one of several plans.

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Pod, the Planning application states 'Demolition of Blackhall House including tower, Anchor House and Hamilton House'

I would not have a problem with most of it being converted into houses although surely the Council realise we need more than just houses - we need amenities. Again in Dublin the Council insisted that when a developer made a proposal there had to be some sort of civic amenity included in the application. That could be a small public garden, a public sculpture (that's why Dublin is full of sculptures with their own great nicknames - Molly Malone - 'The Tart with The Cart') or one developer included an open air cinema in the court within a development. Or a Exhibition space for local artists - especially photographers :)

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Hey guys. The Council are now considering an application to demolish yet another historical building - Blackhall House. It is very easy to submit an objection if you are so inclined - took me about 2 mins. Don't let the bastards destroy everything ....

More info here ... https://www.facebook.com/paisleyoorweetoon?fref=ts and http://pl.renfrewshire.gov.uk/online…/applicationDetails.do…

Edit: 'Cause I made a mistook smile.png

I'm maybe biased but I feel that the demolishing of Blackland House (your wee mistake) was an act of council vandalism. In the 50's it doubled as Glenburn Library and the primary school i attended for a year. it was a lovely old building but I don't actually know much about its history. Somebody pretty rich must have built it and lived in it I'm sure. The lodge house is still there, the old white cottage on Donaldswood Road between the bottom of Braehead Road and Fairway Avenue. A beautiful gravelled driveway led up to the house past a fair sized pond which had some fair sized trout in it. There were a couple of disused garages at the side of the house and these were used as changing rooms when the two football pitches were made on Donaldswood Road more or less on the site that became St.Aelred's School which of course has also gone now. Needless to say the changing rooms were freezing and didn't even have a running tap never mind showers. Kids today don't know how lucky they are!

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I would rather see it demolished than looking like it does now TBH,

Yep, it's a red-brick dump with NO architectural value whatsoever.

I do like the idea that someone has put forward that any ANY new housing development should provide some sort of amenity for the community.

Amongst all of the new (hunners?) houses built on Dykebar Hill, not one amenity, not even a small playground , nada, zilch. A housing desert.

ETA: The original plans were that a Play area with a 5-a-side/basketball pitch was to be built because there were NO amenities for kids, but the builders managed to allegedly "bribe" the Council with £50,000, so it could build a couple more houses where the play area was to be. Something about the ground not being level enough for the pitch... still managed to level off the ground enough to build more houses though!

The Council then eventually frizzled the money on installing drainage and a couple of containers dressing rooms at The Marshes football pitches (which still flood) over a mile away on Lochfield Rd...

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What Camden did with similar buildings ... but we are going to erect f**king more modern houses (and no amenities).

That would be great if someone was going to pump millions into the place, but would it get the footfall?

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I have to say that the new build by the sugar factory opposite crappielow are actually not bad and have a sort of industrial aesthetic, similar to the housing on the old (or should that be most recent) south school site. If the new build was of a similar quality then it could actually be an improvement. On the other hand, there's plenty shit new housing out there.

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