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On 9/21/2022 at 4:57 PM, Callum Gilhooley said:

When you go to N.Ireland and drive through sizeable towns like Cookstown ,Dungannon, Ballymena, Armagh & Lisburn they all seem to be doing well.   
Possibly a slight reduction in shops compared to 5-10 years ago but nothing compared to Paisley, Perth, Dumfries etc .

Arbroath, over the last 32 years has seen a slow,  but sure, decline in decent shops.

The locals whined about not having this and that when they, comparatively speaking, did have a reasonable choice so they, in droves, travelled to Dundee.

Now the High Street is reflective of many in Scotland, charity shops, betting shops and a few small privately owned shops leaving us with NO real choice for shoes(not one shoe shop) and clothes.

It's easy to blame local councils, Arbroath has its own percentage of wasters in that department, but the public can't have it both ways in using retail parks and whining they have no local shops. 

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Down here its like chalk and cheese between whitehaven and workington.  As much as whitehaven promotes itself as a historic market town the run down town centre doesn't go well with the amount they have spent on the harbour and marina which aren't bad at all. Good views of empty shop units. Sellafield put a lot in financially for any office spaces they can get their hands on so you can imagine the impact covid had on the town with all the working from home.

 

On the other hand in workington it's the complete opposite busy shops in town and out of town sites. Even has the customary empty debenhams building.

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Stanley is in the funny position of being half way between Durham and Newcastle and MrsS has said that the town centre has been slowly dying since the main road was pedestrianised (sound familiar?) Town centre now mainly comprised of banks, bookies, bakers, barbers with a couple of supermarkets but now even the banks are pulling out!

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22 minutes ago, StanleySaint said:

Stanley is in the funny position of being half way between Durham and Newcastle and MrsS has said that the town centre has been slowly dying since the main road was pedestrianised (sound familiar?) Town centre now mainly comprised of banks, bookies, bakers, barbers with a couple of supermarkets but now even the banks are pulling out!

Pedestrianising town centres all good if they thought about parking, decent road links and public transport.

 

In fact everything that most out of town do have and thats one of the reasons why they succeed.

 

Over here the same where banks are concerned and their buildings lie empty due to cost of changing purpose etc

 

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7 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Arbroath, over the last 32 years has seen a slow,  but sure, decline in decent shops.

The locals whined about not having this and that when they, comparatively speaking, did have a reasonable choice so they, in droves, travelled to Dundee.

Now the High Street is reflective of many in Scotland, charity shops, betting shops and a few small privately owned shops leaving us with NO real choice for shoes(not one shoe shop) and clothes.

It's easy to blame local councils, Arbroath has its own percentage of wasters in that department, but the public can't have it both ways in using retail parks and whining they have no local shops. 

Yup , and many of those who bemoan the lack of shops and facilities in their town are the very people who wait in anticipation of their latest delivery from Amazon / eBay etc .

Dont use it , you’ll lose it 👎

 

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3 hours ago, StanleySaint said:

Stanley is in the funny position of being half way between Durham and Newcastle and MrsS has said that the town centre has been slowly dying since the main road was pedestrianised (sound familiar?) Town centre now mainly comprised of banks, bookies, bakers, barbers with a couple of supermarkets but now even the banks are pulling out!

I worked down your area a few months ago, Consett to be exact, I thought it was quite a nice wee town, ( at least the area I was working) I rented a house in a village called 'No place' strange name but it does exist just outside Stanley, your correct Stanley isn't the greatest of places, an Asda and an Aldi/lidl across the street from one another is about all it has to offer as far as I seen, but a couple of miles down the road in a town just after No Place there a wee shop that sells the best scotch eggs I've ever tasted, pretty famous shop down that area I'm led to believe... Surely Stanley Saints snarled a few...

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Ah, Consett, is the Glasgow to our Paisley, anything going, Consett gets it, Stanley follows a few years later when the cash is scraped together! I have indeed sampled the scotch eggs of which you speak, the haggis ones are particularly fine, The Scotch Egg company I think they are called, all sorts of fillings, not sure if they are available online but are really tasty. Drive past No Place regularly but don't pass through it, was the Beamish Mary still open when you were there? Good tale about a football trip from work and the lads being pulled over and trying to explain to midlands cops that the driver's address was in No Place 😀

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A Standard Tram, No.1061, on the short branch line to Abbotsinch, which was predominantly to serve the workers of the Shipbuilding industry of the River Cart to the north of the town. The branch opened in 1904 and ran via Love Street and Inchiinan Road, however the route was short lived due being unprofitable and the service cut back to terminate at Springbank Road with the service being withdrawn completely in 1918

 

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47 minutes ago, saint in exile said:

I had family in Consett, so visited a few times when I was young. It was a dirty, dreary place, but busy. The pits were still open, so that probably explained the grime. What happened to the area when the pits shut down?

Both the pits and the steelworks closed and the town received a lot of cash for regeneration, the Genesis project did a lot to create shopping and business areas, some large new housing estates were created. The shopping is of out of town type but because of the proximity to the centre of town you can park up and walk into the town or shopping as required. The old part of town and the many pubs are still traditional as they may have been when you were last here, so I guess it has been a success. Stanley had its pits closed but because of steelworks Consett got more cash and Stanley, which was of a similar size at the time, lagged far behind but some recent investment has helped but it has a very long way to go.

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On 9/23/2022 at 3:36 PM, faraway saint said:

Arbroath, over the last 32 years has seen a slow,  but sure, decline in decent shops.

The locals whined about not having this and that when they, comparatively speaking, did have a reasonable choice so they, in droves, travelled to Dundee.

Now the High Street is reflective of many in Scotland, charity shops, betting shops and a few small privately owned shops leaving us with NO real choice for shoes(not one shoe shop) and clothes.

It's easy to blame local councils, Arbroath has its own percentage of wasters in that department, but the public can't have it both ways in using retail parks and whining they have no local shops. 

If anyone opened a shoe shop would the council put on shoelace- tieing classes at the library and community centre?

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On 9/21/2022 at 3:57 PM, Callum Gilhooley said:

When you go to N.Ireland and drive through sizeable towns like Cookstown ,Dungannon, Ballymena, Armagh & Lisburn they all seem to be doing well.   
Possibly a slight reduction in shops compared to 5-10 years ago but nothing compared to Paisley, Perth, Dumfries etc .

I was around Enniskillen for work 3 years ago and it had the feeling of quite a prosperous town, quite surprisingly so.  I didn't go to the shops or pubs as i was staying out of town at the big golf and country club resort a few miles out of town.  That place was surprisingly cheap as it was within the cap on hotel prices applied by my employer

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4 minutes ago, beyond our ken said:

I was around Enniskillen for work 3 years ago and it had the feeling of quite a prosperous town, quite surprisingly so.  I didn't go to the shops or pubs as i was staying out of town at the big golf and country club resort a few miles out of town.  That place was surprisingly cheap as it was within the cap on hotel prices applied by my employer

Still very much the case .  Hotels are still cheap and despite a few empty town centre units - the place is still buzzing . I was there at the end of August and the town was heaving .
On my way back to Belfast I drove through Omagh also , again , full of life .

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On 6/23/2022 at 10:52 PM, SuperSaints1877 said:

I’ve mentioned this before, but any time I cross the viaduct at the Airport the new electronic advertising system with the Paisley pattern gantry is never in operation. 

Anyone know why? 

The screen mysteriously started working on Sept 8th and had a picture of a stamp until the 20th Sept

Its now up and running showing lovely,,colourful adverts for the passing motorists 📺🚗🚕🚓🏎🚜🛵🚌🚛🛻🏍

Theres a new screen on the Barrhead Rd at the Silver Thread as well 

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On 9/23/2022 at 3:36 PM, faraway saint said:

 

Now the High Street is reflective of many in Scotland, charity shops, betting shops and a few small privately owned shops leaving us with NO real choice for shoes(not one shoe shop) and clothes.

Excuse me, I am new to Arbroath, could you direct me to the one shoe shop please.

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