Guest somner9 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 On this forum I tend to express my opinion, or agree with others. If their is a saints fan opinion I disagree with I may well offer my counter view, but I don't attack them (perhaps unless they are hell bent on making it personal), when it's happened to me I usually choose to ignore them if it persists. Today and with the reviews of last night there is a real wave of personal attacks taking place that are putting saints fan against saints fan. Evidence what was said about Smisa last night, a group set up to protect our club, get involeved with youth developmnet and the community. I challenge many points/proposals put forward by 10000 hours, but I don't result to personal attacks against fellow saints fans. So why is it so nasty in here now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Granted I only followed on Twitter last night but the wee digs at smisa seemed fair enough to me. They want clauses changed then it turns out they have the same clauses word for word in their own constitution. Did the smisa guys not know they were in there? It has all got a bit petty on here with this cic thing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Its all about personalities somner9. Some people get into crusade mode. There was an element of that at the meeting last night - lot's of 'Mon the CIC style one liner input that didn't really add any value in terms of information. People support things in different ways. Some people slate their own players, some people slate the opposition, some people slate the officials....some just slate every cnut. Some do it with humour, some do it like their life depended on it. Some people will sit quietly and analyse the game and chat about it later, some will rant about their opinion on every incident usually to no one in particular - behaviour that would get you locked up in any other environment. The CIC has been the same. Some will look at the detail. Some made a decision about it in a few seconds and will defend that decison to the death. Some will make up stories to suit their agenda, some will attack information that doesn;t suit their agenda, some will attack people / aliases that disagree with them. Taking it personally is an act of pointless self-harming ya nob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I don't think it's nasty at all. If you think it's nasty then maybe fan ownership isn't for you in any shape or form. Wait til elections start and people are on here trying to garner votes. Then wait til the elected body don't do what you want them to do. Then you will see nasty. But as the saying goes. Only you can change it. Only you can make the club how you want it. And you do that by standing for election, and if elected. Standing by your manifesto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Quote: "ya nob" this coming from Sir Nobjockey of Nobjockeyshire! That aside, it kills debate, I can't be bothered posting if someone is adamant I don't have a point they agree with and follows me round to continue to launch attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 On this forum I tend to express my opinion, or agree with others. If their is a saints fan opinion I disagree with I may well offer my counter view, but I don't attack them (perhaps unless they are hell bent on making it personal), when it's happened to me I usually choose to ignore them if it persists. Today and with the reviews of last night there is a real wave of personal attacks taking place that are putting saints fan against saints fan. Evidence what was said about Smisa last night, a group set up to protect our club, get involeved with youth developmnet and the community. I challenge many points/proposals put forward by 10000 hours, but I don't result to personal attacks against fellow saints fans. So why is it so nasty in here now? Absolutely nothing was said against SMISA, There was a difference of opinion and it was sorted out that night, Problem is with SMISA some of them are using it as there own private army, But SMISA was set up to get supporters to own the club now thats gonna happen there not happy, Cant have it both ways, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Wait til elections start and people are on here trying to garner votes. Ah cannae wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Ah cannae wait... You stood last night and made a james hunt of your self, now your on here doing it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Absolutely nothing was said against SMISA, There was a difference of opinion and it was sorted out that night, Problem is with SMISA some of them are using it as there own private army, But SMISA was set up to get supporters to own the club now thats gonna happen there not happy, Cant have it both ways, Without prejudice the second part of your post suggests it wasn't all sorted out? Only my observation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 You stood last night and made a james hunt of your self, now your on here doing it, 'Mon the City!!!! - You must have been boaking when REA said he was a big admirer of Arsenal and that ManUre are cheating scumbags that will almost certainly go to the wall - did you no see everybody in the room looking over and laughing the steam coming out of your ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Absolutely nothing was said against SMISA, There was a difference of opinion and it was sorted out that night, Problem is with SMISA some of them are using it as there own private army, But SMISA was set up to get supporters to own the club now thats gonna happen there not happy, Cant have it both ways, Thought I was the only one who thought that coming away from the meeting but did not want to write it. SMISA is a wonderful organisation the members need to make up their minds which direction they want the club to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) Gary - I don't know where you get that logic from and a very unfair criticism levelled at a group who have worked with 10000Hours from the outset. Yes there have been some differences of opinion and breakdown of communications between both parties during the last 2 years, but that does not mean that SMiSA oppose this takeover. I've stated in a different thread (hope there are no more like these) what my personal views are on this subject regardless of SMiSA. http://www.blackandw...80#entry965061 I know what happened cos i was there, And i never said they were against it, they wanted info that even 10000 hours haven't spoke to there potential membership yet , they took the huff cos this info wasnt given to them, Dave Tennant took the flak cos most of there leadership couldnt be bothered to turn up, they were asking 10000 hours to do something that they dont do themselfs, bit of hypocrisy dont you think, Edited June 8, 2012 by santaponsasaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 When did mr Atkinson become a saints supporter????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 'Mon the City!!!! - You must have been boaking when REA said he was a big admirer of Arsenal and that ManUre are cheating scumbags that will almost certainly go to the wall - did you no see everybody in the room looking over and laughing the steam coming out of your ears. Read what he said today, before you open your ill inform gub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Without prejudice the second part of your post suggests it wasn't all sorted out? Only my observation I think there was an acknowledgement that due to SMiSA's processes and the deadline, it is too late for SMiSA to sort out the £50K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 When did mr Atkinson become a saints supporter????? He's answered that on the 10000 Hours thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 When did mr Atkinson become a saints supporter????? Where does it say he is?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Sid Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Where does it say he is?? In the 10000 Hours Q&A thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I know what happened cos i was there, And i never said they were against it, they wanted info that even 10000 hours haven't spoke to there potential, they took the huff cos this info wasnt given to them, Dave Tennant took the flak cos most of there leadership couldnt be bothered to turn up, they were asking 10000 hours to do something that they dont do themselfs, bit of hypocrisy dont you think, Running a supporters group is a long way from running a multiple- million pound football club so they (smisa) should be asking difficult questions as it is supporters money they are responsible for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennant's Lager Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I know what happened cos i was there, And i never said they were against it, they wanted info that even 10000 hours haven't spoke to there potential membership yet , they took the huff cos this info wasnt given to them, Dave Tennant took the flak cos most of there leadership couldnt be bothered to turn up, they were asking 10000 hours to do something that they dont do themselfs, bit of hypocrisy dont you think, They weren't there as they were on holidays arranged before the meeting, so you can kindly take the 'couldnt be bothered to turn up' remark back, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 In the 10000 Hours Q&A thread. He said he wasnt a saints fan growing up, but since hes been involved with the club he is now, nothing wrong with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 When did mr Atkinson become a saints supporter????? You might as well ask when Sid became a St Mirren supporter. Does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Where does it say he is?? So he's not a supporter then he is doing all this from the goodness of his heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 You might as well ask when Sid became a St Mirren supporter. Does it matter? It does to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 They weren't there as they were on holidays arranged before the meeting, so you can kindly take the 'couldnt be bothered to turn up' remark back, cheers. Dave, You were hung out to dry by them last night, the lady behind me was pissed off that RA came armed with the info to shoot Smisa down, every body in the room felt for you cos you were the only one there to take the flak, its was nothing against you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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