ADMITCHELL Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 4-4-2 Cornell Naismith McAusland Mcgregor Grainger Teale Newton Harkins McGinn Thommo Bahoken This team might not have the best eleven players but they will work hard and track back (apart from harkins) and I believe they would grind out a result which is what we need right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 4-3-3 Cornell DVZ Mcausland McGregor Grainger McGowan Goodwin McGinn Teale Thommo Harkins Blackpool have played this formation extensively for a number of years now (since Holloway was in charge). They play to their strengths and aim to put the opposition on the back foot as often as possible. The full backs provide the width in midfield when attacking. Exciting and direct. Easily converts to 4-5-1 when defending. We don't have the players for that. Yesterday we started off pretty similar and got roasted in midfield because Harkins is lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) For the next 2-3 games: Cornell Goodwin Cheesy. McGregor Caprice. Grainger Newton. McGinn Gowser Thommo Then, after being a bit more solid and harder to beat I'd move to: Cornell Caprice. Cheesy. McGregor. Grainger Goodwin Newton. McGinn Teale. Gowser Thommo Again I'd play this for 2-3 games gradually introducing through substitutions my preferred formation for the rest of the season: Cornell Caprice. Cheesy McGregor. Grainger Newton McGinn Teale. Gowser. Bahookie Thommo. Harkins has done ok going forward but brings out the worst in McGowan this way he'd be on the bench hopefully forcing the best out of McGowan. Likewise during the next 4-6 games Big Bahookie would come of the bench for Thommo, just to let him know we've options. It would also be ok to play DVZ at right back in the middle formation and bringing Caprice on if we need to attack more. I've supported DL so far but my heart sank yesterday when the team was announced (though I didn't boo), I really think we need to consolidate & stop shipping silly goals first then gradually become more expansive till we're eventually playing sexy football again, sorry that took so long and thank you for your patience. Edited September 1, 2013 by Mykey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMBB Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 This but with McGregor in Mairs place Same for me baffles me why DL cant see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 We don't have the players for that. Yesterday we started off pretty similar and got roasted in midfield because Harkins is lazy. Yeh but without Gowser and Teale, two of our most influential and attack minded players. I am also making the assumption that the players are confident, motivated and in form. And in Harkin's case also doing his defensive duties. However, therein lies some of the problems I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Dougie works for the BBC, he's nothing to do with the club fella. Just a fan same as you and me. Except he talks more shite then you do div Edited September 1, 2013 by insaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell Caprice. Mcgregor mair. Grainger Goodwin Teale. McGowan. McGinn Thompson. Bahoken We don't have a natural left winger which upsets the balance of the team if we did I would play 5 in the middle with a lone striker or even a 4 3 3, With cheesy Newton McLean harkins and Reilly on the bench no place at all for DVZ his times up I'm afraid We have Yacub and Dillion that can play wide left. Another option is to push Granger in to the midfield and play Mair at left back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Lets go straight forward grind a result. Put McGregor or Naismith in and push Goodwin forward, maybe put Mair in at left back and push Granger forward. A no nonsense 4-4-2 =========Cornell ============= DVZ, =McAusland=McGregor=, Mair, Teal, =Goodwin = McGowan = Granger Thommo = Bahoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Is The Man Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) For me Macausland has to come out. The defence needs a balance to it that it doesnt have right now. If Goodwin is the composed experienced leader his partner needs to be a solid aggressive athlete. Cheesy simply isn't that. That been said ive been really disappointed with Goodwin lately his positional sense as a centre half is abysmal. Grainger's had to cover for him plenty of times. Another disappointment is the lack of a natural left winger add to that the fact that Higginbotham ran the show for Thistle yesterday and he was available on a free in the summer. Do we have a scouting network or do we just wait for agents to hand us dvds? Edited September 1, 2013 by Dan Is The Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Except he talks more shite then you do div you have got a cheek accusing anybody of talking shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanarkshire_Bud Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell Caprice McAusland Mair Grainger Goodwin Newton Teale McGowan Bahoken Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Hasselhoff Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell Van Zanten McAusland McGregor Grainger Newton McGinn Teale McGowan Bahoken Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aber 87 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell DVZ McGregor Mair Grainger Goodwin Teale Newton McGinn McGowan Thommo Bahoken, Harkins, Naismith, Reilly, McLean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell Caprice McGregor Mair Grainger Goodwin Newton Teale McGowan McLean Thompson McGregor gets ahead of Cheesy due to his threat at set plays. I'm afraid i would adopt the dogs of war tactics and set fitba back 30 years by hitting long to Thommo and let Teale.McGowan,McLean play off second balls. Due to our imbalance in our squad we haven't the players for any decent passing game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Cornell DVZ McGregor Mair Grainger Goodwin Teale Newton McGinn McGowan Thommo Bahoken, Harkins, Naismith, Reilly, McLean Agree. If McGregor not fit then McAusland would start. Some good options on the bench including Caprice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penileebud Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Interesting that a lot of people are pushing Goodwin up to sit in front of the back four, that's what I would do.... One of the reasons our defence is so bad is because they are left exposed time and again. Our first aim has to be to make ourselves hard to beat and that needs to be built on a strong defence and holding midfielder if we can do that it will give our attacking players the platform to start doing what they should be doing which is causing the other team problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Duke Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Changing the players and formation won't make the slightest bit of difference whilst Danny Lennon is in charge. As long as he continues to send his players out to follow his pseudo-Barcelona tactics we are going to continue giving away possession in dangerous areas and continue to allow the opposition to get all their men behind the ball when we attack! My first choice XI is: Cornell Mair - McAusland - Goodwin - Grainger McLean - Newton - McGinn - Teale Bahoken - Thompson Get the ball forward quickly, get Bahoken chasing down the channels, get McLean & Teale cutting inside, don't allow the full back to attack, no passing in your own half, inswinging set plays, long throw ins, zonal defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstretchuk Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Get mcausland out team now and u will see a difference...no player will have any confidence knowing this muppet is at the back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 We don't have the players for that. Yesterday we started off pretty similar and got roasted in midfield because Harkins is lazy. I think we got "roasted" because our wide defenders were palying too narrow. DVZ especially. Now I don't know if that was fear of being skinned on the inside or if it was tactical. I don't think Harkins is lazy at all. I've seen him track back plenty of times in his first few games for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveStreetLover Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 The first half of last season Goodwin was playing as a holding midfield player in front of the back 4. It gave our back 4 some protection through the middle and also allowed goodwin to spread the ball really well. I'd like to see him back in this position, but I also think he's play a terrific game at centre back. But something needs to change. I was livid for the first 45 minutes seeing Newton out on the right who constantly drifted more central, possible because Bahoken was meant to play more wide and track back, who knows. But Teale definitely needs to play wide right from the start, alongside Bahoken. Teale is where our chances are more likely to come from, and if you create enough chances for a lad like Bahoken he'll start putting them away (hopefully).I'd start with:CornelCaprice,Mcausland,mair ,GraingerGoodwinTeale ,Newton, McGowanBahoken, ThommoThen you have the likes of Harkins, McGinn and McLean to come on from the bench for new legs when our we get tired. We have a strong team and finally a decent bench. Players need to start playing in the roles they were brought in for and play a passing game that was meant to be our "brand" of football. Not everyone out of position and hoofing long balls up to thommo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think we got "roasted" because our wide defenders were palying too narrow. DVZ especially. Now I don't know if that was fear of being skinned on the inside or if it was tactical. I don't think Harkins is lazy at all. I've seen him track back plenty of times in his first few games for us. I was thinking the same - we got roasted because Newton was stuck covering the right all by himself - DVZ kept getting pulled in leaving him exposed. Harkins was the one player on Saturday who when he got the ball at his feet you actually thought something might happen. I'm constantly bemused by some on this website - I've heard people moaning about our 2 best players being left on the bench yesterday - and about how this is further evidence of Danny's tactical ineptitude. Probably the same people who spent the last month moaning that Gowzer and Harkins cant play in the same team (Harkins looks more of a goal threat to me at the moment, although to be fair to Gowzer, in attempting to fit them both in the team has been played far to deep for his liking). I assumed the decision to bench Teale was down to the fact that he's not exactly in his prime and already played a full 90 minutes mid week - Thommo looked as if he pulled up with cramp towards the end, so I imaging the 2 games was telling on him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desert orchid Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 4-1-3-2 GK. Cornell ( hasn't done much wrong since the season started, pre-season doesn't have a bearing on his abilities) RB. Van Zanten ( not the best defender but does offer something going forward) LB. Grainger ( not full match fit but should grow into the team) CB. McGregor ( need his strength in the air) CB. Mcausland ( decent enough if not asked to play the ball around - punt it) DFM. Goodwin (play him where he is best) LM. McGinn (bemused by his lack of selection this season) CM. McGowan (again, use him where he is best) RM. Teale ( best player last season and looking the same so far) CF. Thomson ( hopefully the addition of SB will ease the burden) ST. Bahoken ( hopefully the one of the missing pieces) as i'm just a punter and "know mothing of how a football club runs", I fully expect to be shot down in flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 My preference is for the current system preferred by most of the German clubs - a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation. My choice Vanzy / A N Other McGregor/Mair Cheesy Grainger Newton Goodwin Teale Gowser Harkins/McLean Thommo McGinn to cover defensive mid and to replace Newton when he goes back to NUFC in the new year. Bahooky to cover Thommo or to come on to change to 4-4-2. Defensively, we really need a right back and it might be a help to McGregor to double with Mair to get their match fitness up given the few games the've both played this year. It wouldn't worry me for that system to be called negative or boring. When you're in trouble you need to work hard and grind out results not punt the ball forward as we did on Saturday although I think that might have been the easiest formation for Bahooky to work with given he'd only been here for 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie172 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 4-4-2 Cornell; DVZ, Cheesy, McGregor, Grainger; Teale, Newton, McGowan, Harkins; Thompson, Bahoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Cornell Vanzy/Caprice Mair Mcgregor Grainger Goodwin Teale Newton. Gowser. Mcginn Thommo I think it must be changed before the Motherwell game, if Danny selects the same flat back 4 as he has since Inverness then we should give up now, it isn't working, they get exposed too easily and piss about too much, get the team hard to beat first and foremost, stop letting teams run over us. 4 defenders with a holding player in front SHOULD make it harder for teams to get through us. Harkins is a luxury player so he can't play, we need 11 workers when the chips are down, get the sleeves rolled up and play with a bit of pride for a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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