Stuart Dickson Posted September 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 You're right again, StuD, and oaky's wrong, that's why the pro-independence rally in Edinburgh on Saturday was all over the BBC News........ Is pro independence a Socialist agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) The European Parliament is deemed just as insignificant in the UK media as the Scottish Parliament Oaksoft, yet they used the ridiculous UKIP MEP article as a lead story and they buried the Bill Walker story way down the listing. The BBC agenda is clear after all lets face it which is worse - a Scottish politician going to jail for a year having been found guilty of 27 years of domestic abuse with three wives and a step daughter all victims. Or an MEP who, in a room full of female friends, has made a light hearted comment about being surrounded by sluts which clearly didn't offend anyone except a rather silly BBC journalist who was desperate for a story. I care about the standard of reporting on the BBC Oaksoft. I suspect most people do. I just with they wouldn't follow their ridiculous socialist agenda in such a blatant fashion. two things quite wrong with this.The walker story was down the agenda cos it is old news. UKIP was fresh. I just wish you wouldn't follow your ridiculous stupid-man agenda in such a stupid fashion. The MEP was hassled by a C4 news reporter, NOT a BBC one. And it was the C4 who WAS hit. Edited September 24, 2013 by bluto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Is pro independence a Socialist agenda? Who mentioned "Socialist?" Your inferrence was that the BBC were showing bias to the party promulgating Scottish independence and, by deduction, a pro-independence bias. I pointed out the rror of your "thinking." Again. FWIW, it is for me. It's the only means the people of Scotland will ever see the type of government they overwhelmingly vote for time and time again, but get tories in charge time and time again, whether those tories call themselves Conservative, Lib-Dem or Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I assume (because I don't watch TV and I'm getting a hint of sarcasm) that it didn't make the news at all? If not, that's disgraceful. As good as ignored, despite the fact that 20,000 people (according to the Scottish Police Federation on twitter) turned out for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 I care about the standard of reporting on the BBC Oaksoft. I suspect most people do. I just with they wouldn't follow their ridiculous socialist agenda in such a blatant fashion. I wish you'd learn to read Salmonbuddie. I mentioned the BBC Socialist agenda in this post. Oaksoft even responded to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 As good as ignored, despite the fact that 20,000 people (according to the Scottish Police Federation on twitter) turned out for it. You are quite right. They shouldn't have ignored it. Instead they should have shown the amount of anger and contempt for the rally from locals who were severely disadvantaged and hindered by the actions of knuckle scraping nationalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) You are quite right. They shouldn't have ignored it. Instead they should have shown the amount of anger and contempt for the rally from locals who were severely disadvantaged and hindered by the actions of knuckle scraping nationalists.Don't forget the angry bus drivers in hotels next to Calton Hill trying to grab an hour's kip afore gaun tae Easter bloody Road! Edited September 26, 2013 by bluto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 The bbc is anti - Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Just watched the news tonight and somewhat bizarrely the top story is about some maverick MEP from the UKIP party who told a laughing female audience that they were all sluts because they admitted they didn't clean behind their fridges - and who then subsequently tried to cover up his naivety by claiming he meant they all kept an untidy house. Yet well down the news item list, and only given the briefest of airings was SNP MSP Bill Walker getting his twelve month jail sentence for acts of domestic abuse against three ex wives and one step daughter over a period of 28 years. The only question is why? Why are the BBC being allowed to show their political bias time and time again? Should always clean behind your fridge you know. If you don't you waste far too much energy. Not that I do it of course. I leave that kind of stuff to my cleaner. Motherwell apparently. I'm not sure if that counts as "Bongo Bongo Land" It won't do anything behind the fridge. I'm not even convinced about putting them behind a radiator to be honest. I guess the logic would be to reflect the heat back into the room. The main way of saving energy with the fridge is to make sure the compressor at the back is allowed to run efficiently. To do that you need to make sure that there is enough supply of air to the compressor so that involves dusting the coils and cleaning the area behind the fridge and it means not shoving the fridge right up against the wall - as most people do. The other tip on energy is that a fridge - and the freezer - work more efficiently when they are full. If you shop weekly the chances are that before a shop the fridge or freezer is empty - the best way to fill that space is to fill up your old milk bottle plastic jugs with water and put them in the fridge and the freezer. You aren't doing it for drinking water - although you could if you wanted. The idea is simply to keep the fridge or freezer full and you can chuck away the water when your shopping arrives. Anyway dunno what all the fuss is about the UKIP guy - surely it's only good practice to clean your house properly. Well exactly. The bizarre thing was that they did this as the top story on the news that lunchtime and they bumped Bill Walkers jail sentence well down the listings. I know Bill Walker is a Scottish politician but nearly 30 years of abuse against three different wives and a step daughter and somehow that's deemed less of a story than an eccentric old man calling some woman friends of his sluts. I'm a huge fan of the BBC and a lot of it work but their current affairs and news coverage slips every now and again and the idea that it's a public service that displays neutrality politically is an absolute fallacy. The European Parliament is deemed just as insignificant in the UK media as the Scottish Parliament Oaksoft, yet they used the ridiculous UKIP MEP article as a lead story and they buried the Bill Walker story way down the listing. The BBC agenda is clear after all lets face it which is worse - a Scottish politician going to jail for a year having been found guilty of 27 years of domestic abuse with three wives and a step daughter all victims. Or an MEP who, in a room full of female friends, has made a light hearted comment about being surrounded by sluts which clearly didn't offend anyone except a rather silly BBC journalist who was desperate for a story. I care about the standard of reporting on the BBC Oaksoft. I suspect most people do. I just with they wouldn't follow their ridiculous socialist agenda in such a blatant fashion. You need to learn to write then, StuD, oaky was first to mention a left wing bias which you responded to, your original "gripe" was that it was pro-nationalist. I know you get confused but you need to decide which bias the BBC are guilty of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 You are quite right. They shouldn't have ignored it. Instead they should have shown the amount of anger and contempt for the rally from locals who were severely disadvantaged and hindered by the actions of knuckle scraping nationalists. They gave the locals' complaints the same coverage they do every year to the same complaints they make about the Festival. You are quite right. They shouldn't have ignored it. Instead they should have shown the amount of anger and contempt for the rally from locals who were severely disadvantaged and hindered by the actions of knuckle scraping nationalists. Really? That's the best you can do? Away back to the playground and try to come up with something grown-up to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Don't forget the angry bus drivers in hotels next to Calton Hill trying to grab an hour's kip afore gaun tae Easter bloody Road! Their mistake, they should have gone to Easter Road for their kip...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 You're right again, StuD, and oaky's wrong, that's why the pro-independence rally in Edinburgh on Saturday was all over the BBC News........ There was hardly anyone at that apart from a bunch of Flemish ultranationalists who want to cleanse the whole of Europe of muslims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) 8,300 nat punters for something that was supposed to be a show of strength was laughably bad. And in spite of the lies from the nats about 30,000 being there, a FOI request was put in to verify numbers which were then confirmed. The actual safety limit for the whole hill thing was only 12,000 so if there had been any remote danger of them breaching that amount there would have been problems. But they never came close. A shite turnout for them considering it was only a year to go before they get their arses handed to them by the Scottish people. Edited October 7, 2013 by Reynard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Lies? Not according to the Scottish Police Federation on Twitter. But then again, they've got "Scottish" in their name so they're obviously lying nats, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Lies? Not according to the Scottish Police Federation on Twitter. But then again, they've got "Scottish" in their name so they're obviously lying nats, too. No, unluckily for you there was a freedom of information request. The actual lies were abviously from the separatists who were claiming about four times as many losers turned up than actuially bothered to. The letter is available online. The Calton hill bit only had a safety cert for 12000 so if it had looked remotely close to that then it would have been abandoned. The liars were the muppets claiming thirty thousand. The police simply demolished that lie after a simple FOI request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 It certainly didn't 'look' like 20,000 even. I had no idea why roads were blocked off and asked my cabbie. "Some kinda march." Was his disinterested reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 The lovely police chap that revealed the information also explained whyt he initial march took so long. It was down to bad organisation on the poart of the yes clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 The lovely police chap that revealed the information also explained whyt he initial march took so long. It was down to bad organisation on the poart of the yes clowns. "The poart"? So the march started in Leith, then...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 "The poart"? So the march started in Leith, then...? poassibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'll be voting for independence although I expect to be on the losing side - I don't think it'll make much difference either way. I don't like the SNP's eagerness to jump in and say things like "we'd commit ourselves to the NHS 1% pay deal" obviously without having taken the time to cost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 No, unluckily for you there was a freedom of information request. The actual lies were abviously from the separatists who were claiming about four times as many losers turned up than actuially bothered to. The letter is available online. The Calton hill bit only had a safety cert for 12000 so if it had looked remotely close to that then it would have been abandoned. The liars were the muppets claiming thirty thousand. The police simply demolished that lie after a simple FOI request. I've looked, but can't find it, can you post a link? And please don't come back with "look for it yourself," I have tried but can find neither hide nor hair of it. No doubt because I'm an uneducated nat but look on it as your charity work for the day. As I said, @ScotsPolFed tweeted on 23 Sep 2013 that "SPF members were kept busy this weekend facilitating march of 20,000." (I'd link to it but don't know how) - are they lying too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I've looked, but can't find it, can you post a link? And please don't come back with "look for it yourself," I have tried but can find neither hide nor hair of it. No doubt because I'm an uneducated nat but look on it as your charity work for the day. As I said, @ScotsPolFed tweeted on 23 Sep 2013 that "SPF members were kept busy this weekend facilitating march of 20,000." (I'd link to it but don't know how) - are they lying too? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I've looked, but can't find it, can you post a link? And please don't come back with "look for it yourself," I have tried but can find neither hide nor hair of it. No doubt because I'm an uneducated nat but look on it as your charity work for the day. As I said, @ScotsPolFed tweeted on 23 Sep 2013 that "SPF members were kept busy this weekend facilitating march of 20,000." (I'd link to it but don't know how) - are they lying too? Edinburgh city police confirmed on the 27th Sept that 8300 went on the march and less than 6000 were on the hill. There was a further FOI request to ask for a confirmation of the numbers. Which were then confirmed. It goes into a bit more detail as to why the actual march took so long to pass. The marchers were spread out, there were a lot of gaps and it was badly organised by the event "managers" according to police Scotland. The Disneyland version of events was that there was "over 20000" at the thing. There wasn't. Not even if you count the eyes. Less if you count the teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Oh dear are the nasty Nats up to their old tricks again? Lying and spinning on a scale that would embarrass Peter Mandelson and Alistair Campbell. How can anyone trust anything they say anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I am a guy slut, by the way. call me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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