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You have misunderstood. Deliberately I think TBH.

Our water is FULL of impurities but I'm not saying it is undrinkable.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

The main point, and this is the problem with you (you get so hung up on pedantry that you miss the bigger picture), is that our fresh water supply is finite and we are not treating it well.

As a Londoner you should be more aware of that than most.

I already apologised for not understanding your scientology.

For most of the planet, 'fresh water' is synonymous with 'drinking water'. You scoffed at rain water being that. Scotland's fresh water supply is NOT as finite as the many examples you cited. Water in the UK is better treated (in all senses) than ever it was.

shull and you were discussing the water falling locally and not in Sweden or the Sudan, but I'm not a scientologist. What do I know? smile.png

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I already apologised for not understanding your scientology.

For most of the planet, 'fresh water' is synonymous with 'drinking water'. You scoffed at rain water being that. Scotland's fresh water supply is NOT as finite as the many examples you cited. Water in the UK is better treated (in all sense) than ever it was.

shull and you were discussing the water falling locally and not in Sweden or the Sudan, but I'm not a scientologist. What do I know? smile.png

I scoffed at rain water being drinking water? I didn't do that either. FFS you are as bad as Dickson for this pish lol.gif.

Water in the UK certainly is better treated than ever before. You might want to find out what it is "treated" with first before "getting your bombast on".

Scientologist FFS lol.gif

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I scoffed at rain water being drinking water? I didn't do that either. FFS you are as bad as Dickson for this pish lol.gif.

Water in the UK certainly is better treated than ever before. You might want to find out what it is "treated" with first before "getting your bombast on".

Scientologist FFS lol.gif

I believe it is first rinsed in cold water before being scrubbed with a brillo pad. It is then rinsed again, this time in warm water before being thoroughly scoured with Vim, or some other cleaning product of note, and a rough scourer. Finally it is then rinsed in the cool clean fresh water that was produced five minutes previously. The waste water from all the rinses is disposed of in the washing machines, toilets and taps of domestic customers after being squeezed through a giant cheesecloth, or sometimes a coffee filter.

Pretty simple really when you know how, so stop trying to show off.

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Oh dear, oakstur.

I'm certainly not understanding you at all. :unsure:

Rain water, fresh water, drinking water - to me the first two can stand for the third in Scotland.

As you correctly pointed out, what you laughed at shull for (in suggesting that we had almost unlimited supplies of it) was fresh water.

What is fresh water to you, then? Please. :)

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Oh dear, oakstur.

I'm certainly not understanding you at all. :unsure:

Rain water, fresh water, drinking water - to me the first two can stand for the third in Scotland.

As you correctly pointed out, what you laughed at shull for (in suggesting that we had almost unlimited supplies of it) was fresh water.

What is fresh water to you, then? Please. :)

Not frozen?

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All the water that has ever been on the earth is still here - apart from maybe a couple of drops of astronaut piss. It doesn't go anywhere, it just gets recycled again and again. Oaky was right about every drop having probably been through dinosaurs.

There should actually be more water being recycled, in the same time frame, now than there has been in the past. The glaciers and ice sheets are melting (fresh water - useful) and flowing into the seas, there becoming salt water (useless) and raising sea levels (greater surface area) temperatures are rising, therefore there should be more water evaporating from the seas, combined with a greater surface area to be evaporated from, and then falling as rain (fresh water - useful).

We should, therefore, have more rain/fresh/drinking water.

Or maybe I've just did a 1+1=11.

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I scoffed at rain water being drinking water? I didn't do that either. FFS you are as bad as Dickson for this pish lol.gif.

Water in the UK certainly is better treated than ever before. You might want to find out what it is "treated" with first before "getting your bombast on".

Scientologist FFS lol.gif

Aye you're too much of a daftie to be one of them. .lol.gif

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There should actually be more water being recycled, in the same time frame, now than there has been in the past. The glaciers and ice sheets are melting (fresh water - useful) and flowing into the seas, there becoming salt water (useless) and raising sea levels (greater surface area) temperatures are rising, therefore there should be more water evaporating from the seas, combined with a greater surface area to be evaporated from, and then falling as rain (fresh water - useful).

We should, therefore, have more rain/fresh/drinking water.

Or maybe I've just did a 1+1=11.

No. You're as right as can be...

In fact, kinda worryingly from Scottish pov, Scotland may be about to have millions more rain/fresh/drinking water precipitating than it currently has.

When Arctic glaciers/ice sheets melt sufficiently it can provoke what is called IIRC - Heinrich episodes or events.

In which, broadly, the north atlantic is suffused with too much fresh water, that impedes the natural flow around the planet of the current that we know (a small portion of) as North Atlantic Drift/Gulf Stream, and Scotland is plunged into a cold wet period and perhaps a worsening of the current ice age that we are in, presently.

And we all know what a disaster that could be.

Tourists would stop piling onto my bus. :(

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No. You're as right as can be...

In fact, kinda worryingly from Scottish pov, Scotland may be about to have millions more rain/fresh/drinking water precipitating than it currently has.

When Arctic glaciers/ice sheets melt sufficiently it can provoke what is called IIRC - Heinrich episodes or events.

In which, broadly, the north atlantic is suffused with too much fresh water, that impedes the natural flow around the planet of the current that we know as North Atlantic Drift/Gulf Stream, and Scotland is plunged into a cold wet period and perhaps a worsening of the current ice age that we are in, presently.

And we all know what a disaster that could be.

Tourists would stop piling onto my bus. sad.png

In 1963 we saw what happens when the Atlantic conveyor/jetstream/gulfstream bypasses these islands. We get something more akin to the kind of temperatures you would normally see at these latitudes- a deep freeze. . however , I don't think they know when that is going to happen . The climate is certainly changing but on the whole I don't think that their predictions are all that good when it comes to long term weather . .

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In 1963 we saw what happens when the Atlantic conveyor/jetstream/gulfstream bypasses these islands. We get something more akin to the kind of temperatures you would normally see at these latitudes- a deep freeze. . however , I don't think they know when that is going to happen . The climate is certainly changing but on the whole I don't think that their predictions are all that good when it comes to long term weather . .

Long term weather forecasting is piss easy.

From now until our atmosphere is burnt off by our expanding dying sun there will be ...

weather.

See, piss easy.

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In 1963 we saw what happens when the Atlantic conveyor/jetstream/gulfstream bypasses these islands. We get something more akin to the kind of temperatures you would normally see at these latitudes- a deep freeze. . however , I don't think they know when that is going to happen . The climate is certainly changing but on the whole I don't think that their predictions are all that good when it comes to long term weather . .

Well, personally, I wasn't around in 1963 to see it, so I'll take your word for it.

Bluto will remember it, according to oaky bluto was about 63 then. :)

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I think for a Heinrich Event to happen we need to see armadas of icebergs or icebergs on a biblical scale. .

About 20yrs ago , I saw a programme that showed an iceberg that had broken away from Antarctica , that was the size of Cyprus. It was being tracked by a Nimrod and it took the Nimrod 1 hour to fly around the iceberg. .

They seemed to think it was the start of something monumental but admitted that perhaps this kind of thing had been happening for years , yet undetected. .

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I think for a Heinrich Event to happen we need to see armadas of icebergs or icebergs on a biblical scale. .

About 20yrs ago , I saw a programme that showed an iceberg that had broken away from Antarctica , that was the size of Cyprus. It was being tracked by a Nimrod and it took the Nimrod 1 hour to fly around the iceberg. .

They seemed to think it was the start of something monumental but admitted that perhaps this kind of thing had been happening for years , yet undetected. .

There are icebergs in the bible?

I know that in the bible they were working under the EU Agricultural Policy due to the fact that they had a mountain of olives, but I never knew that they had icebergs.

Was Auschwitz a Heinrich Event?

(OK, a wee bit close to the bad taste line there, but I think I just stayed on the right side of it.)

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There are icebergs in the bible?

I know that in the bible they were working under the EU Agricultural Policy due to the fact that they had a mountain of olives, but I never knew that they had icebergs.

Was Auschwitz a Heinrich Event?

(OK, a wee bit close to the bad taste line there, but I think I just stayed on the right side of it.)

Indeed. The bible also had plagues of one kind or another but unlike BAWA, there was never a plague of trolls as far as I know. .

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Indeed. The bible also had plagues of one kind or another but unlike BAWA, there was never a plague of trolls as far as I know. .

So there was a plague of icebergs?

Would icebergs not have melted by the time the reached Egypt?

Ah, got it now, this global warming malarkey isn't man made, it's god sending his icebergs to plague Egypt. He didn't really think this one through very well, did he. c**t!

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So there was a plague of icebergs?

Would icebergs not have melted by the time the reached Egypt?

Ah, got it now, this global warming malarkey isn't man made, it's god sending his icebergs to plague Egypt. He didn't really think this one through very well, did he. c**t!

Oh, uh!! You'll go to hell for saying that. It says that in the bible somewhere.I think.

A lot of folk getting hot under the collar. For every pseudo scientist who says global warming is real, there is another one who says bollocks it is. Scientists tend to be patronising bastards, just like our (alleged) in-house critter. Does anybody remember the John Cleese skit about patronising merchant bankers? At least that rhymed. Whether global warming exists and if it does and becomes problematic, man will sort it out. Engineers will probably help a bloody sight more than scientists, whatever they are. Remember, Einstein made mistakes and some of his 'discoveries' are under serious scrutiny even though he was a genius.

1963 was f**king freezing right enough. No football for nearly four months. Rusty Hutton opened up the Camphill gym on Saturday mornings so the football teams could at least play indoors. Getting up Camphill was treacherous. Icy as hell.

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Oh, uh!! You'll go to hell for saying that. It says that in the bible somewhere.I think.

A lot of folk getting hot under the collar. For every pseudo scientist who says global warming is real, there is another one who says bollocks it is. Scientists tend to be patronising bastards, just like our (alleged) in-house critter. Does anybody remember the John Cleese skit about patronising merchant bankers? At least that rhymed. Whether global warming exists and if it does and becomes problematic, man will sort it out. Engineers will probably help a bloody sight more than scientists, whatever they are. Remember, Einstein made mistakes and some of his 'discoveries' are under serious scrutiny even though he was a genius.

1963 was f**king freezing right enough. No football for nearly four months. Rusty Hutton opened up the Camphill gym on Saturday mornings so the football teams could at least play indoors. Getting up Camphill was treacherous. Icy as hell.

Hmmm, yes. It appears some other scientists say the earth was actually warmer a thousand years ago than it is today ?! Crux seems to me , a mere luddite that , if man hadn't been pumping the Greenhouse gases into the atmosphere over recent times and co2 emissions were reduced, then it could be suggested that the earth would have indeed cooled ?! So man is seemingly undoubtedly contributing something extra to the Big picture, but to what degree, well that is totally open to question.

Reconstruction of past climate studies show that over a couple of millennium the earth heated and cooled without man rocking on, it was warmer a thousand years ago that it is today.

I'm sure they didnt have speedos back then though..........although that is purely supposition.

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TBH humans are doomed to extinction and that'll not be because of global warming.

It'll be down to the utter stupidity and wilful pig ignorance (feckless I think the word is) of people.

IMO there are two major problems for humans as a species.

Firstly, we have limited resources and a finely balanced environment on Earth.

That needs to be maintained.

Secondly, the sun will expire eventually and so we need to somehow figure out how to get to another solar system or galaxy at some point.

In terms of the long term survival of the species, these two things are the only show in town.

You'd need to ask yourself how high we prioritise those things financially to realise why humans are inevitably doomed as a species.

The only questions are when, how and what pain will the transition cause on those unlucky bastards fated to be around when it happens.

BTW don't think I'm necessarily gloomy about most of this.

For every pseudo scientist who says global warming is real, there is another one who says bollocks it is. Scientists tend to be patronising bastards, just like our (alleged) in-house critter. Does anybody remember the John Cleese skit about patronising merchant bankers? At least that rhymed. Whether global warming exists and if it does and becomes problematic, man will sort it out. Engineers will probably help a bloody sight more than scientists, whatever they are. Remember, Einstein made mistakes and some of his 'discoveries' are under serious scrutiny even though he was a genius.

Wrong, Rick.

Our resident, in-house critter says, "We're dooooomed!"

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1963 was f**king freezing right enough. No football for nearly four months. Rusty Hutton opened up the Camphill gym on Saturday mornings so the football teams could at least play indoors. Getting up Camphill was treacherous. Icy as hell.

It's time that a terrible truth is told...

My Maw (and her pals) who were the school cleaners, used to return from their shifts (daily at 8.30 and 18.30.) by wheeching on trays downhill on slides they made.

It need never have been so treacherous, but for their irresponsible actions.

ETA: just took the following into consideration...

Well, personally, I wasn't around in 1963 to see it, so I'll take your word for it.

Bluto will remember it, according to oaky bluto was about 63 then. :)

Using those maths, my Maw must've been 90 at the time.

Bad auld basturts!

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