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Chris Brookmyre was on a political/current affairs panel show on Radio Shortbread this lunchtime, and he was also getting stuck into the Tories and their despicable dribblings. Good man, so he is!

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I wish the Tories would stop trying to get involved with the independence debate.

The best thing Cameron and Osbourne and the rest could do for the union is... Nothing. Stay well out of it and a no vote is a certainty.

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I wish the Tories would stop trying to get involved with the independence debate.

The best thing Cameron and Osbourne and the rest could do for the union is... Nothing. Stay well out of it and a no vote is a certainty.

This is what I don't understand.

Scots have complained for decades about the Tories screwing our country and yet when a clear opportunity is handed out to get rid of them permanently from our politics about 60% of all Scots are shying away from doing it.

It's bizarre. Anyway......

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This is what I don't understand.

Scots have complained for decades about the Tories screwing our country and yet when a clear opportunity is handed out to get rid of them permanently from our politics about 60% of all Scots are shying away from doing it.

It's bizarre. Anyway......

The tories dont run this country, plus some people want to stay part of the GB yes GB, nugget.

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The tories dont run this country, plus some people want to stay part of the GB yes GB, nugget.

Defence, taxation, welfare benefits, etc....etc....

I think you'll find, in many respects, they most certainly do.

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This is what I don't understand.

Scots have complained for decades about the Tories screwing our country and yet when a clear opportunity is handed out to get rid of them permanently from our politics about 60% of all Scots are shying away from doing it.

It's bizarre. Anyway......

Assuming the same voting structure that Holyrood has now, an independent Scotland would give Scottish Tories more representation than they currently have in Westminster. Rather than getting rid, they will be stronger.

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Assuming the same voting structure that Holyrood has now, an independent Scotland would give Scottish Tories more representation than they currently have in Westminster. Rather than getting rid, they will be stronger.

Eh, whit?

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Assuming the same voting structure that Holyrood has now, an independent Scotland would give Scottish Tories more representation than they currently have in Westminster. Rather than getting rid, they will be stronger.

...but not in with any chance of being in power

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...but not in with any chance of being in power

You're wrong Tony, in a democratic system they would have the same chance of any other party of winning a Scottish election. All they would need to do is come up with sensible and fair poiicies that enough voters think would be best for Scotland as a whole and they would be in. That fortunately is and will always be their problem.

Thankfully.

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Scotland currently has 1 Tory MP in London, 15 MSPs in Edinburgh. A Scottish Parliament would return more Tories, as it does now. They would not be gone.

Aye, but they would never, ever, be in power.

That is the point.

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Scotland currently has 1 Tory MP in London, 15 MSPs in Edinburgh. A Scottish Parliament would return more Tories, as it does now. They would not be gone.

At the moment the arse end of 300 Tory MP's in England - absolutely none of whom we voted for, control our defence, immigration, tax, welfare and strictly control the amount of money they give us to pay for everything else forcing us to be without means to borrow money for things.

Voting for independence may well result in more Tory MSP's in Scotland but it would be considerably reduce the number of Tories in a position to harm us from 300+ to about 15 or so. I'd say that was worth a YES vote on it's own TBH.

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