salmonbuddie Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Would it be wrong of me to want to see him demonstrate how to swim with the fishes? Only asking...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoWSaint Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 What isn't it then? So far in the last few days we've had abuse directed at one supporter of the Union by a Special Advisor to the First Minister who has since been forced to make a public apology and today we have the Charity Regulator investigating "The Dignity Project" - an Edinburgh based charity - after a Twitter post came from their account. The tweet said of JK Rowling - "What a bastard after we gave her shelter in our city when she was a single mum." The charity has since claimed that it's account was hacked by Cybernats and that their official line is that everyone is free to donate to whomever they wish. To me this looks like the Scottish equivelent of a Brown Shirt campaign, reminiscent of the way Natzi's in pre War Germany aimed to silence Communists in the country. Bullying? Perhaps, anti democratic though it certainly is. It is quite staggering that someone getting called a "bastard" by an anonymous online account can be equated with Nazi Germany. Also, here's a poll that shows that the gap is narrowing with 100 days to go. I'm sure you will claim it isn't narrowing however.... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/bombshell-daily-record-poll-shows-3678091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 World cup related post for the yes camp.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 The UK Gov is to publish a 16 page pamphlet promoting the union and a no vote. This will be sent to every home in Scotland towards the end of June at a cost of over £700k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I dont know Clare Lally, I've never met her. She was however the poster girl who appeared on every mainstream news programme on tv and radio on Monday and similar in Tuesday's newspapers. Her image was used as Better Together marked 100 days until the referendum by relaunching themselves with a new slogan. Her soundbite " just an ordinary mum from Clydebank campaigning for Scotland to stay in UK" was the most reported part of the event. However, we now know that her soundbite was false and she is not only a member of the labour shadow cabinet helping to form policy for Labour, she also launched Johann's campaign for labour leadership in 2011 (STV Scotland Tonight Wednesday for anyone interested). A few things strike me about these events; How naive are the Better Together leadership (and Scottish Labour in general) to think that her role within Labour wouldnt be noticed, especially when the Daily Record has reported her as being in the labour inner circle? Has Clare Lally been duped by these people and used as a patsy or sacrificial lamb, or has she knowingly misled people by what she said at this rally? I think that it is entirley relevent and not abusive that her falseness was highlighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 The UK Gov is to publish a 16 page pamphlet promoting the union and a no vote. This will be sent to every home in Scotland towards the end of June at a cost of over £700k. What's the cost got to do with it? Both campaigns are regulated with the same spending restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) What's the cost got to do with it? Both campaigns are regulated with the same spending restrictions. Exactly - especially when the Scottish Government has been sending out literature to every home in Scotland for most of this term in government promoting independence all at the cost of the UK taxpayer. I've got to say though I do find it amusing that the Natsi's on here are doing their own version of "Good Guy / Wank" and that so far those who's Socialist agenda sits closest to their own, like JK Rowling, are being classed as "wanks", whilst the Queen of the United Kingdom is a "good guy". So much for this "fairer society" pish they were coming away with a few short months ago. All pretence of that has gone right out of the window. Edited June 13, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) I dont know Clare Lally, I've never met her. She was however the poster girl who appeared on every mainstream news programme on tv and radio on Monday and similar in Tuesday's newspapers. Her image was used as Better Together marked 100 days until the referendum by relaunching themselves with a new slogan. Her soundbite " just an ordinary mum from Clydebank campaigning for Scotland to stay in UK" was the most reported part of the event. However, we now know that her soundbite was false and she is not only a member of the labour shadow cabinet helping to form policy for Labour, she also launched Johann's campaign for labour leadership in 2011 (STV Scotland Tonight Wednesday for anyone interested). A few things strike me about these events; How naive are the Better Together leadership (and Scottish Labour in general) to think that her role within Labour wouldnt be noticed, especially when the Daily Record has reported her as being in the labour inner circle? Has Clare Lally been duped by these people and used as a patsy or sacrificial lamb, or has she knowingly misled people by what she said at this rally? I think that it is entirley relevent and not abusive that her falseness was highlighted. How did she mislead anyone? She claimed she was "just an ordinary Mother". By inference are you, and the rest of your Natsi brigade, saying that because she has a differing political opinion to yours that this makes her an "abnormal Mother"? Edited June 13, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 The important (and misleading) word is "just" and that's what's being taken exception too. She may be "an ordinary Mother" but if she's also member of the Labour shadow cabinet then "an ordinary Mother" is not the only thing she is. But you knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Basically, you're that thick that you don't even realise that you're thick. Brilliant!!! To be fair - I don't think Dicko is "thick" To be able to troll for 216 pages takes some skill & guys like us are biting! He just can't see certain points in the woods. He has however. failed to indicate where Lally was "abused" by any Government advisor or official. (Not denying twitter has had it's moments, but, it's as bad on both sides!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 He's done that already, did you miss it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Duke Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 like when I say that you are thick. your underdeveloped intellect Still abusive 2 days later I see. Mods - can anything be done here? I thought this forum had a policy of zero tolerance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Duke Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Stuart Dickson is a fool, a liar and an idiot... Is this really the best that the yes campaign can come up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Is this really the best that the yes campaign can come up with? I contacted Blair Jenkins and he confirmed that yes this is the best the yes campaign has right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Still abusive 2 days later I see. Mods - can anything be done here? I thought this forum had a policy of zero tolerance? For calling you thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Is this really the best that the yes campaign can come up with?Dunno, I'm not part of the yes campaign. Not a nationalist either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Still abusive 2 days later I see. Mods - can anything be done here? I thought this forum had a policy of zero tolerance? So to clarify,Lying is ok, Making unsubstantiated claims that people are Nazis is ok, Calling someone thick is abuse and shouldn't be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Done what? Had a breakdown or compared Salmond to Adolf because he ate a salad one day? Dorothy's definitely not back in Kansas yet. All of the above! No , the comparison was made somewhere back in the day. Buggered if I'm going to attempt to prove it, though, before he retorts with that, life's too short. And I'm a bullying cybernat, too. Apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Oh dear. The SNP meldown continues.... http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/academic-wants-apology-from-shouting-msp.24478649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 What's the cost got to do with it? Both campaigns are regulated with the same spending restrictions. David, I only put the cost for information. I'm sure people will have different opinions on it.For info, although both campaigns will be limited on spending the uk gov is not part of the campaign and therefore the £700k will not be part of no campaign spending. Neither will cost of last week's treasury report that they are using as basis for this booklet. The Scottish government is limited by the electoral commission as to what it can send to public during the referendum. UK gov is not covered by this as it's not officially involved. For example, the Scottish government are not able to do a similar booklet promoting independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 The important (and misleading) word is "just" and that's what's being taken exception too. She may be "an ordinary Mother" but if she's also member of the Labour shadow cabinet then "an ordinary Mother" is not the only thing she is. But you knew that. I've been flicking through my wallet I am a member of Tesco Clubcard, Avios, and I have a Nectar card with very few points on it. I also appear to have loyalty cards for Beefeater - I've only been once - Costa Coffee, and for Table Table. It also appears that my wallet needs a clear out cause I am also member of Blockbuster Video and I've got a North Lanarkshire Leisure Membership that has expired. Phew I'm glad I got all that out there before my claims of being just an ordinary Dad were shot down by Campbell Gunn who would no doubt also use some made up bullshit to back his point. I've also been checking but do you know that in 2009 Angelina Jolie - one of the worlds most famous actresses, film director, screenwriter and author, who's also a UNHCR ambassador, a humanitarian lobbyist, and she ran the MJP project to create the first Cambodian Millennium village following UN Development goals, described herself as "just an ordinary Mum". I didn't see nationalists getting all hot under the collar about her claim. It seems it's only when you hold a differing political opinion that the smears start - just as it did in 1930's Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/labour-hits-out-at-government-for-85000-spend-on-billboards.1395585582 The SNP spent £85,000 of taxpayers money in just two weeks on billboards promoting their White Paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Aye, meltdown, right, OK, whatever Dorothy. Aye it's a meltdown. Yet another two SNP officials trying to suppress legal evidence being given to a parliamentary committee by a legal expert just because it differed from the Yes Campaign's party line. It's quite clear what the Yes Campaign's strategy is now. The negative campaigning is absolutely obvious now. Instead of being able to debate points the Yes Campaign instead involves itself it smearing, cyber bulling, the issuing of threats from the First Minister to business leaders, and the wilful shouting down and silencing of experts being called to the Scottish Parliament to provide evidence to various committee's. I wonder how long it will be before the Nationalists set up a youth movement so that kids get to grass up their parents for dissenting against the Natsi line. Oh and before I'm asked by the cybernats on here to provide a source for the claims of the issuing of threats to business leaders here is the link - once again from the Nationalist supporting Herald newspaper http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/snp-figures-accused-of-intimidating-business-leaders.24478653 Edited June 13, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I see that future US President Hilary Clinton has now backed the Union stating that she believes that a Yes vote would be a loss for both the UK and Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/labour-hits-out-at-government-for-85000-spend-on-billboards.1395585582 The SNP spent £85,000 of taxpayers money in just two weeks on promoting their White Paper. Cheaper here... £5.01 a packet Edited June 13, 2014 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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