Stuart Dickson Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 How do you work that out? rUK controls our currency anyway at the moment. how could we end up being MORE dependant? For the umpteenth time two of the last three Chancellor's have been Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 You don't get it. No currency union means rUK controls our currency. Our base rate will be in their hands, not ours. That's SNP's plan B, to give away control of our own currency. What a bizarre form of independence. A yes vote will mean we are actually more dependent on English politicians than we are now. Top Cat it's not their plan B. Salmond ruled it out. He's said in the past he's got a plan B, c, d and e but when asked by Darling all we learned was that Plan B isn't the Euro, our own currency or using Sterling in the same way Panama uses the dollar. The Natsi s clearly weren't listening to their Fuhrer during the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 For the umpteenth time two of the last three Chancellor's have been Scottish. Representing London based parties & co-opted on to the role by southern based members who do not prioritise the needs of Scots in order to protect those in the south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Representing London based parties & co-opted on to the role by southern based members who do not prioritise the needs of Scots in order to protect those in the south. No. Representing their constituents whom elected them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 : If you're going to make a claim, back it up. If you can't, fair enough. We will just file that in the bulging ' Boaky Oaky nonsense ' folder. Or we could file it under TopCat is a lazy bastard. Either is fine by me. Couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 No. Representing their constituents whom elected them. Nonsense! A constituency MPs role is distinct from a ministerial role! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Has anyone seen this list of 200 celebrities who think we should vote No next Month? well, if Kris Akabusi and Tom Daley think we should vote no then it should be case closed. In all seriousness im probably about 70% sure ill vote no, but stunts like this are cringeworthy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Has anyone seen this list of 200 celebrities who think we should vote No next Month? well, if Kris Akabusi and Tom Daley think we should vote no then it should be case closed. In all seriousness im probably about 70% sure ill vote no, but stunts like this are cringeworthy, Cringeworthy indeed! How many millionaires? http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/u/more-than-200-celebrities-sign-letter-calling-for-a-no-vote.1407403644 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Do the Better together voters have any concerns that Westminster debt is currently running at. 1.6 Trillion from April 2014 and expected to reach 2 trillion this year. While every second of every day it rises by £5,170 remember 'EVERY SECOND' That Westminster will order it's new nuclear missiles at a total cost of 100 billion The cost of running a high speed train to Leeds from London is £42Billion at today's price but that figure will rise by more than double that figure. Aircraft Carriers that cost billions that don't have any planes built for these particular aircraft carriers. Do better together have no concerns regarding these figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjerseybuddie Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 After living down here for over thirty years it would wrong of me to offer an opinion on Scottish matters. However it does tickle me to find so many people who couldn't give a fiddlers fling about Scotland suddenly have an opinion. Furthermore they keep trying to draw me on what I think. I always give them the same answer that it's none of my business or theirs. It looks like the undecided may sway the outcome as it appears that both yes voters and no voters are firmly entrenched. I watch with interest and may the best man win. I had reason to visit Glasgow recently and found it to be much more alive and vibrant than I remembered. Why that is I don't know but there was a great vibe about the place and I saw little evidence of doom and gloom ( aside from the silent beggars who I silently told to f&@k off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Cringeworthy indeed! How many millionaires? http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/u/more-than-200-celebrities-sign-letter-calling-for-a-no-vote.1407403644 Dearie me. There's not much I can say in response to that (certainly not much that doesn't include a liberal smattering of four letter words). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Nonsense! A constituency MPs role is distinct from a ministerial role! You would think so but the order for two aircraft carriers was a rushed decision with penalty clauses that meant the order couldn't be cancelled was purely done by Brown to protect shipyards at Rosyth and Govan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Dearie me. There's not much I can say in response to that (certainly not much that doesn't include a liberal smattering of four letter words). Like this? http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/scots-welcome-smug-english-twat-letter-2014080789393 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Do the Better together voters have any concerns that Westminster debt is currently running at. 1.6 Trillion from April 2014 and expected to reach 2 trillion this year. While every second of every day it rises by £5,170 remember 'EVERY SECOND' That Westminster will order it's new nuclear missiles at a total cost of 100 billion The cost of running a high speed train to Leeds from London is £42Billion at today's price but that figure will rise by more than double that figure. Aircraft Carriers that cost billions that don't have any planes built for these particular aircraft carriers. Do better together have no concerns regarding these figures. What would an Independent Scotland have done to save shipyards in Scotland? Build life rafts so they can all desert Scotland as it sinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Like this? http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/scots-welcome-smug-english-twat-letter-2014080789393Good, but not as funny as the real story! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 You would think so but the order for two aircraft carriers was a rushed decision with penalty clauses that meant the order couldn't be cancelled was purely done by Brown to protect shipyards at Rosyth and Govan. By that logic - if the CoE at the time happened to represent a constituency in Gloucestershire - then that wouldn't have happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Scotland could do with a navy that has ships to patrol our waters. You know small ships as opposed to aircraft carriers. I wonder who would build them in an independent Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Like this? http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/scots-welcome-smug-english-twat-letter-2014080789393 Brilliant! I laughed out loud at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Has anyone seen this list of 200 celebrities who think we should vote No next Month? well, if Kris Akabusi and Tom Daley think we should vote no then it should be case closed. In all seriousness im probably about 70% sure ill vote no, but stunts like this are cringeworthy, Can't these over inflated ego's see that this will be nothing but counter productive. Not 1 single person intending voting yes will be swayed to vote no just because Simon Cowell or the late Stephen Lawrence's mother says we should but it has every chance of swaying undecideds towards yes by it's condescending tone. Nose out you self obssessed buffoons ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Nothing is worse than political campaigning like that. Vote no cause Kriss Akabusi and Cilla Black say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Scotland is bigger than Panama and The US is far bigger than the rUK. The situations are in no way comparable. Panama is not going to bring down the USD. It's not inconceivable that an iScotland's fiscal policy could bring down Sterling, just look at RBS. This is why a currency union will not happen. Panama does not have a currency union with the USA. Read what the piece says and not what you would like it to say. Edited to add: Panama's population was 3,864,170 people at the end of 2013. Edited August 7, 2014 by smcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Nothing is worse than political campaigning like that. Vote no cause Kriss Akabusi and Cilla Black say so. Sir Mick Jagger never got into politics when asked to not play in Tel Aviv. Wonder why he now has a view? And don't get me started on David Starkey's opinion of Scotland and scots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 You don't get it. No currency union means rUK controls our currency. Our base rate will be in their hands, not ours. That's SNP's plan B, to give away control of our own currency. What a bizarre form of independence. A yes vote will mean we are actually more dependent on English politicians than we are now. You can backflip all you like, but thegymnastic medals were all given out last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Europe rules ! Not even Britain is Independent. Scotland never will be, even if 100% vote aye. It's a bad joke as is this thread. To add, we've got Leaders in Glasgow flying a f**king Hamas flag. God help us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Shull, started early on the vino today? What's a Hamas flag, or did you mean Palestine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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