buddiecat Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Using physical disability to score points on the internet. Classy stuff, sadly typical of yes voters emm is that not exactly what you are also doing, and he is not because the person in question is not physically disabled and he never implied that he was anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) I wonder how you would feel if, because the hospital trust has to now maintain the roads around the hospital and the parking facility through money taken from the patient care budget, there was no surgeon available to take out your appendix? Or there was no available beds in your local hospital and you'd have to wait an extra 30 minutes while the ambulance chases across town to get you in A&E and the next nearest hospital - as happened to me three years ago. Nothing is "free" when it's paid for by the taxpayer. Terrible, the health board should really provide more bariatric beds Edited November 26, 2014 by beyond our ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Terrible, the health board should really provide more bariatric beds That wasn't the problem. The proctology department in the first hospital couldn't cope with an arsehole of such gargantuan proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Alright guys, all joking aside ... he really is a fat arsehole, isn't he? Besides that, have you ever noticed that he has a story for everything? It happened to him, or a family member, or a friend. Or he spoke to someone who, irrespective of the subject at hand, just happened to agree with his point of view. I think he lives in his own wee world, just like Jenkins from South Park but instead of playing WoW he posts on here. He definitely looks like him anyway apart from Jenkins has too much hair. He's Lanarkshire's version of Walter Mitty. Unfortunately,this seems to have rubbed off on his two sycophantic lickspittles, given the fairy tales that they've fabricated over the past few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 He's Lanarkshire's version of Walter Mitty. Unfortunately,this seems to have rubbed off on his two sycophantic lickspittles, given the fairy tales that they've fabricated over the past few months. Well , considering there is no viable reason to vote naw , then it is only natural that they would be reduced to the kind of made up PISH , the UK government are a dab hand at. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Scotland said Naw in a loud and clear voice in September. One of the principle reasons for voting no was a lack of confidence in Scotland ability to run it's own economy, another was a knowledge that in an independent Scotland we'd all land up paying through the roof with rises in income tax. So having expressed our democratic wish why are we now seeing both the SNP and Labour pledging to raise Income Tax in Scotland - and ONLY in Scotland - in the event of more powers over taxation being granted to Holyrood? As I've said repeatedly devolution has been a f**king nightmare for the people of Scotland. We should run these third class politicians out of town and rid ourselves of their high wages + expenses package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Devolving income tax will be a nightmare for Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 So the vow will officially be broken tomorrow (Thursday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I think you'll find that the No vote left the decision making for income tax with Westminster. If they are now going to choose to devolve it, then it is a result of the No vote - you know, your vote. You've only yourself to blame. The fact that the minute Scottish politicians get a sniff of income tax varying powers they immediately look to raise taxes says all we need to know about the Scottish parliament. I'll be watching with interest today to see whether it would be better for me to relocate to Carlisle. I'd imagine there will be many others in the same boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The fact that the minute Scottish politicians get a sniff of income tax varying powers they immediately look to raise taxes says all we need to know about the Scottish parliament. I'll be watching with interest today to see whether it would be better for me to relocate to Carlisle. I'd imagine there will be many others in the same boat Nah... Fink I'll be sticking wif Lahndahn..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Nah... Fink I'll be sticking wif Lahndahn..... Hey , don't you discourage him. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The devolving of tax levels is a complete red herring. As part of a UK it will be totally impracticle to raise tax/threshold levels without being allowed to offset the negatives with positive through other means such as business rates and airport taxes et al which impacts on all Scottish society. Giving absolute control of this one aspect is almost no different from the ability the parliament has at the moment. ie. raising or lowering tax by 3p. It really will be a smokescreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I think you'll find that the No vote left the decision making for income tax with Westminster. If they are now going to choose to devolve it, then it is a result of the No vote - you know, your vote. You've only yourself to blame. Probably a shrewd move by Westminster. It will take the Scottish parliament about ten minutes to overspend badly, hike taxes and prove what No voters knew all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 So the vow will officially be broken tomorrow (Thursday)Basturts!They delivered on time! As promised. Och... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-30223266 What can we greet aboot, noo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The devolving of tax levels is a complete red herring. As part of a UK it will be totally impracticle to raise tax/threshold levels without being allowed to offset the negatives with positive through other means such as business rates and airport taxes et al which impacts on all Scottish society. Giving absolute control of this one aspect is almost no different from the ability the parliament has at the moment. ie. raising or lowering tax by 3p. It really will be a smokescreen. So... Are you agreeing that Eck's madness was always just that?A stupidly, wasteful, impractical vanity project? What did you want, if you don't want control of your own economy? Just MORE subsidy? : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 What would that be? That being handed powers piecemeal by your overlords is useless? That you need all the powers so that you can offset things accordingly and not just one or two powers that only have effects in specific areas? Nice to see you are coming around. How is the price of oil going these days? I've heard probably spurious rumours that it's a few pence lower than the SNP's guesstimates. Incidentally, I've never had a problem with Devo Max. You're thinking of the Nationalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Wow. No voters NOT happy today. I've never experienced so many unhappy winners. pRick is still fighting September's battles by whining about oil prices and everyone else is upset. In the meantime it's one more risk to independence which has been removed and the vote losers continue to win. Has there actually been any bad news for the Yes side since the vote was lost? Any at all? Has there been any good news for the No side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Wow. No voters NOT happy today. I've never experienced so many unhappy winners. pRick is still fighting September's battles by whining about oil prices and everyone else is upset. In the meantime it's one more risk to independence which has been removed and the vote losers continue to win. Has there actually been any bad news for the Yes side since the vote was lost? Any at all? Has there been any good news for the No side? Scotland voted NO: let it go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 You've said that at least twice now, where are you getting this information?He's looking at how holyrood has had the ability to raise income tax for years but has never used it. Isn't that obvious, if you follow dicko logic :-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Basturts! They delivered on time! As promised. Och... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-30223266 What can we greet aboot, noo? Still waiting on the devo max, home rule, extensive powers being delivered. Mibees I should check my blue bin, just in case they were left there while I was oot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Still waiting on the devo max, home rule, extensive powers being delivered. Mibees I should check my blue bin, just in case they were left there while I was oot? Who promised devo max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Scotland voted NO: let it go... We're getting substantially more powers despite the No vote. There will continue to be a shift to SNP from Labour. The call for independence won't go away. Let it go.....and accept the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Devo max was offered by Broon and the vow according to the unionist media at the time. Federalism was also added into the mix by Broon Edited November 27, 2014 by TPAFKATS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 According to smith commission report income tax will still be a reserved matter. (Paragraph 75 onwards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Broon and the vow according to the unionist media at the time. Federalism was also added into the mix by Broon Do you have a specific quote that promised devo max? If so, can you provide the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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