stlucifer Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) There is no point in blindly "hoofing the ball" up the park. It just allows better teams to take control of the ball and puts pressure on the team without it. Playing the long ball requires midfielders with pace AND quick thinking and only works if the opposition don't expect it. Similarly. Passing tthe ball slowly out of defence allows the opposition to regroup and steals the space. Any team needs to mix things up and, when passing through needs quick incisive passing and moving from the players. Anyone who says there is a simple solution is, IMHO, simplistic in their outlook. Play the ball out quickly and make sure there is space between the player with and the player receiving the football. Short passes are a liability in defnsive situations. IF there is an opportunity to play the long ball over the top to a quick, (not a Thommo), forward then, by all means, do so. Edited May 16, 2014 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) On the contrary, watching the game getting played in attacking thirds is far more thrilling to watch than a teams attempting to keep possession in the middle of the park! How do you control possession (and thus control a match) when the first thing you do is randomly punt it up the park. At best it gives you a 50/50 chance of winning the second ball so overall you are looking at having 40% possession in a game which in the majority of matches means you don't win. Edited May 16, 2014 by Ayrshire Saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 How do you control possession (and thus control a match) when the first thing you do is randomly punt it up the park. At best it gives you a 50/50 chance of winning the second ball so overall you are looking at having 40% possession in a game which in the majority of matches means you don't win. If your team is made up more of people who can tackle and players who can sprint you increase your chances of controlling the game substantially. If you look at the successful Barcelona team of a few years ago the reason their possession stats were so high wasn't the way the passed the ball around, it was how well and how quickly they were able to get the ball back when they lost it. I'm not a fan of the long ball game, but it's hard to argue that it's not effective. You can see it on any juvenille football pitch and our team has certainly been a victim of it a few times. We teach our players to keep the ball on the deck and to pass it around, and I firmly believe we've done the right thing, but the two matches we've lost this season were because the opposition defended deep and caught us out with long balls over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 If your team is made up more of people who can tackle and players who can sprint you increase your chances of controlling the game substantially. If you look at the successful Barcelona team of a few years ago the reason their possession stats were so high wasn't the way the passed the ball around, it was how well and how quickly they were able to get the ball back when they lost it. I'm not a fan of the long ball game, but it's hard to argue that it's not effective. You can see it on any juvenille football pitch and our team has certainly been a victim of it a few times. We teach our players to keep the ball on the deck and to pass it around, and I firmly believe we've done the right thing, but the two matches we've lost this season were because the opposition defended deep and caught us out with long balls over the top. So you only lost 2 games? Debate over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 So you only lost 2 games? Debate over. They've only played two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Duke Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 How do you control possession (and thus control a match) when the first thing you do is randomly punt it up the park. At best it gives you a 50/50 chance of winning the second ball so overall you are looking at having 40% possession in a game which in the majority of matches means you don't win. You control a match by scoring more goals than the opposition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabella Duke Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 By the way, Lee Mair, he was hardly Franz Beckenbaur! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 You control a match by scoring more goals than the opposition! That's called winning a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Sorry, but its a fact that there IS a magic solution. Direct football. Deary me. Fortunately this sort of stuff has had its day and will never return. You must seriously hate watching St Mirren. You're going to REALLY hate next season. For some reason that last sentence makes me happy. Have I said that already someonwhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Is anyone on the forum still using Herbalife or did anyone use it and maintain their weight loss?A friend is now using and promoting it!Right thread btw... "Mairzo" is part of the chain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: Is anyone on the forum still using Herbalife or did anyone use it and maintain their weight loss? A friend is now using and promoting it! Right thread btw... "Mairzo" is part of the chain! There's only one way to lose weight sustainably IMO and that is to eat less and eat healthier stuff. You don't need pills, powders, fancy diets or to eat miserable low calorie crap. Just cut portion sizes of normal foods, stop eating junk and processed food and walk about 30 minutes a day. If there is some underlying problem that will need to be dealt with first though. Comfort eating for example, can't be cured by any diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, oaksoft said: There's only one way to lose weight sustainably IMO and that is to eat less and eat healthier stuff. You don't need pills, powders, fancy diets or to eat miserable low calorie crap. Just cut portion sizes of normal foods, stop eating junk and processed food and walk about 30 minutes a day. If there is some underlying problem that will need to be dealt with first though. Comfort eating for example, can't be cured by any diet. Totally agree Of course there can be exceptions due to medical conditions but in the main, this is the biggest Scam of all time. Eat Calories, Burn Calories.................. to lose weight burn more to be on weight eat more. Have a balanced diet.................... Maybe I could write a book on it........................ cause that's basically it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BuddieinEK said: Is anyone on the forum still using Herbalife or did anyone use it and maintain their weight loss? A friend is now using and promoting it! Right thread btw... "Mairzo" is part of the chain! Have never used it EK. Have lost over 3 stones and maintained the lower weight over the past few years. As a guide, I follow the 5:2 plan but simply put..I eat less than I did before every day and twice a week eat less still. I am now the weight I was when I was 18 ... admittedly less muscle mass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Herbal Life is a magic beans pyramid scheme. Avoid.Eating less and exercising more is the best way to lose weight. One if the main reasons I enjoy running so much is it means I don't feel as guilty about all the crap I eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stu said: Herbal Life is a magic beans pyramid scheme. Avoid.Eating less and exercising more is the best way to lose weight. One if the main reasons I enjoy running so much is it means I don't feel as guilty about all the crap I eat. And this is where dyslexia ISN'T beneficial! Edited September 11, 2018 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stu said: Herbal Life is a magic beans pyramid scheme. Avoid. Eating less and exercising more is the best way to lose weight. One if the main reasons I enjoy running so much is it means I don't feel as guilty about all the crap I eat. I was thinking of running for Match Secretary at Golf club. Will that mean i can eat more crap ? Edited September 11, 2018 by DougJamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 Pyramid scheme, and not convinced the products work in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, DougJamie said: I was thinking of running for Match Secretary at Golf club. Will that mean i can eat more crap ? Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) I’ve lost two stone over the last two years. The secret? Looking in the mirror one day, squeezing into too-tight trousers, and thinking ‘right - line in the sand, get this sorted’. Never set any targets, two stone over two years is just the way it worked out. Not crazy dieting for quick weight loss that you could put back on, but a long-term view, take it slow and easy. No Herbal Life. Simply exercised some much needed willpower and cut out a lot of shite (crisps, choccies, burgers, too many beers etc), and exercised regularly. It genuinely ain’t rocket science. Edited September 11, 2018 by pozbaird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, pozbaird said: I’ve lost two stone over the last two years. The secret? Looking in the mirror one day, squeezing into too-tight trousers, and thinking ‘right - line in the sand, get this sorted’. Never set any targets, two stone over two years is just the way it worked out. Not crazy dieting for quick weight loss that you could put back on, but a long-term view, take it slow and easy. No Herbal Life. Simply exercised some much needed willpower and cut out a lot of shite (crisps, choccies, burgers, too many beers etc), and exercised regularly. It genuinely ain’t rocket science. Good for u Poz thats the right way. Must admit felt like i lost at least a stone watching Livi game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted September 11, 2018 Report Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, DougJamie said: Good for u Poz thats the right way. Must admit felt like i lost at least a stone watching Livi game Watching St Mirren cannot aid weight loss, but it can certainly negate the need for extra bran in your diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, DougJamie said: Totally agree Of course there can be exceptions due to medical conditions but in the main, this is the biggest Scam of all time. Eat Calories, Burn Calories.................. to lose weight burn more to be on weight eat more. Have a balanced diet.................... Maybe I could write a book on it........................ cause that's basically it ?? Oh it's a scam alright and it preys on the fact that the difficulty for the vast majority of people is the mental battle. I decided one day that I was embarassed about my size, I wasn't ready for diabetes and had no intention of getting any obesity related illnesses. No way am I spending the rest of my life in pain trying to tie my laces. f**k. That. This is how I lost 2 stone in about a couple of months. 1) Cut out virtually all snacks between meals. To help with pangs I used fishsticks, packets of raisins and sheer willpower (difficult as f**k). 2) Drank tons of diluted orange juice to keep my stomach feeling full enough. 3) A really good bowl of cereal for breakfast with toast as well. Fruit and Fibre or something like that. Sometimes a small bowl of pasta. Anything long burning to keep me to lunch time. 4) At lunch I take a couple of slices of toast and jam or oatcakes and chicken spread or something like that. Lunch should be very light indeed. 5) Exactly the same types of dinner as I would normally have but much smaller portions. Instead of 2 chicken breasts have 1. Pile on the veg. Top tip here - use the smallest plate you can get away with: it makes you feel like you've eaten a full meal. 6) A frozen fruit smoothie at night. Add frozen fruit and water to the jug. An excellent way to finish off the night. 7) Bed by 10.30 to 11 to prevent late night snacking. 8) I stick some headphones on, listen to radio whatever and go for a 30 minute walk. Build up slowly to this and increase the pace and the duration. Honestly this is about all you really need. That's it. It's not about dieting or restricting the types of thing you eat. It's about portion size. It's about creating a healthier lifestyle. It's about ensuring you don't just open up your fuel tank and pour any old shite in. If I did that with my car it would never be out of the garage. Our bodies are exactly the same. It's always better if you have friends who are going through this with you to help. Of course I have no friends at all so life is a bitch but not to worry Good luck to anyone doing this. Your waistline and your wallet will thank you. As I say, this allowed me to lose about 2 stone and I virtually halved my foodbill overnight. And I no longer have tits. Edited September 12, 2018 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 If you are desperate to lose weight quickly the solution is cut your leg off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sonny said: If you are desperate to lose weight quickly the solution is cut your leg off. Or your cock off..... Or maybe that is just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 5 hours ago, DougJamie said: Or your cock off..... Or maybe that is just me I think they were talking pounds, not micrograms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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