Dalrybud Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 As he pointed out, 9 years at the club in total and 3 winners medals. Not a bad haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Has McGowan, Kello and Mcgregor even been offered new contracts not seen anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalrybud Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Some on Twitter suggesting that MacGregor is heading for Hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Some on Twitter suggesting that MacGregor is heading for Hearts?Aye, it has been mentioned...Not taken too seriously though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledley 1877 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Has McGowan, Kello and Mcgregor even been offered new contracts not seen anything? All players out with those who told they wouldn't be returning today/yesterday have been offered new contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Some on Twitter suggesting that MacGregor is heading for Hearts? McGregor was quoted as saying he was desperate to sign on only a few weeks back. Maybe Hearts are offering more money? Some other reason? Would've thought he would've stated loyal to us after 2 years out though. Also, he's a Hibs fan, makes it a bit less believable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smfcuk1877 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Phil Clark said he knew on Saturday but couldn't say anything , very strange dropping down a league, unless tommy didn't fancy keeping him and he was gtn freed anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Players have no loyalty, they will go to who pays the most,we will replace anybody who leaves ,deal with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfbuddie Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 David van zanten freed no great surprise Kenny McLean Ipswich no contact Paul McGowan hibs hasn't had best season, agree has talent and worth contract but is there better option maybeDarren mcgregor Kilmarnock very over rated, yes can make great last man challenges but tend to be from own mistakes, again believe better options availableKello hearts did we really think he was using us for anything else but to get himself in shop window I heard from a good source!! Watch this space. we always do just don't pay to much attention to most posters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabinho Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 McGregor leaving is no big deal. He makes as many mistakes as Cheesy but bizarrely escapes the criticism. It can't be denied our defensive record was poor last season, I'd be looking at 2 new centre backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 David van zanten freed no great surprise Kenny McLean Ipswich no contact Paul McGowan hibs hasn't had best season, agree has talent and worth contract but is there better option maybe Darren mcgregor Kilmarnock very over rated, yes can make great last man challenges but tend to be from own mistakes, again believe better options available Kello hearts did we really think he was using us for anything else but to get himself in shop window I heard from a good source!! Watch this space. we always do just don't pay to much attention to most posters FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 McGregor leaving is no big deal. He makes as many mistakes as Cheesy but bizarrely escapes the criticism. It can't be denied our defensive record was poor last season, I'd be looking at 2 new centre backs. Our defensive record isn't as bad as you're making out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Our defensive record isn't as bad as you're making out. Our defensive record is actually better than half of the Scottish Premiership. We need to score more goals. Playing with one up front is probably a factor in both these issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Many seem to forget that before this season, McGregor had only started 12 games in two seasons due to consecutive anterior cruciate ligament injuries. We might see him reach the same level he was at three years ago next season, or we might never see him reach that fitness again, or regain the pace he had before. I think we need to give the guy a break. That being said, I'll be disappointed in him if, after we stood by him while he was injured for the best part of two seasons - even giving him a new contract while injured - he now decides to slap us in the face by leaving to go to a lower league team for more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Many seem to forget that before this season, McGregor had only started 12 games in two seasons due to consecutive anterior cruciate ligament injuries. We might see him reach the same level he was at three years ago next season, or we might never see him reach that fitness again, or regain the pace he had before. I think we need to give the guy a break. That being said, I'll be disappointed in him if, after we stood by him while he was injured for the best part of two seasons - even giving him a new contract while injured - he now decides to slap us in the face by leaving to go to a lower league team for more money. I agree wholeheartedly with this. It would be typical of many (clubs and players) in modern football to show no loyalty. I thought he was a good solid defender before his first injury (although prone to a few "jeezus!" moments like most others) and thought he would improve greatly as he aged. Maybe the injuries have limited him to the level he's at now and he's the best he's going to be -if so, it might not be a big deal if he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Many seem to forget that before this season, McGregor had only started 12 games in two seasons due to consecutive anterior cruciate ligament injuries. We might see him reach the same level he was at three years ago next season, or we might never see him reach that fitness again, or regain the pace he had before. I think we need to give the guy a break. That being said, I'll be disappointed in him if, after we stood by him while he was injured for the best part of two seasons - even giving him a new contract while injured - he now decides to slap us in the face by leaving to go to a lower league team for more money. Quite right, he should hang about until the club decides to dump him. I think it should be remembered that he was injured on the field of play and that when fit, he has made himself available for selection. He owes us nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Quite right, he should hang about until the club decides to dump him. I think it should be remembered that he was injured on the field of play and that when fit, he has made himself available for selection. He owes us nothing. It should also be remembered that we gave him a new contract while he was still injured. He owes us some loyalty. I won't be surprised if he leaves, as there seems to be little loyalty in football, but I won't be revising my view on what constitutes loyalty based on what is the norm in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) The notion of players owing their club is a bit Roy of the Rovers, to be honest. Sad, but true, and a reflection of the modern football era. I would say he does owe the club one thing, however, and that is courtesy. That would translate into him not stalling and making a relatively quick decision in order for the manager and coaching staff to make timeous arrangements in terms of a suitable replacement should he opt to move on. ETA: is it also possible that he might feel he would have owed Danny a bit of loyalty and respect, as opposed to the current incumbent(s)? Nothing more than idle speculation, of course. Edited May 21, 2014 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The notion of players owing their club is a bit Roy of the Rovers, to be honest. Sad, but true, and a reflection of the modern football era. I would say he does owe the club one thing, however, and that is courtesy. That would translate into him not stalling and making a relatively quick decision in order for the manager and coaching staff to make timeous arrangements in terms of a suitable replacement should he opt to move on. ETA: is it also possible that he might feel he would have owed Danny a bit of loyalty and respect, as opposed to the current incumbent(s)? Nothing more than idle speculation, of course. Yeah , we wouldn't want to be bringing in trialists at the last minute for pre-season games ! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah , we wouldn't want to be bringing in trialists at the last minute for pre-season games ! :-) I can live with that. What I can't live with is bringing in your Bahokens and Djemba Djembas at the last minute ahead of games that actually matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 McGregor's not scored since his first season with us, OK so we should discount the middle two, but his counterattacking abilities we're the main reason he was well regarded at that point as his defending has been as erratic as any of our other CD's during his time with us. Happy if he stays but if he's got a better offer elsewhere we should maybe look at it as an opportunity............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 The notion of players owing their club is a bit Roy of the Rovers, to be honest. Sad, but true, and a reflection of the modern football era. I would say he does owe the club one thing, however, and that is courtesy. That would translate into him not stalling and making a relatively quick decision in order for the manager and coaching staff to make timeous arrangements in terms of a suitable replacement should he opt to move on. ETA: is it also possible that he might feel he would have owed Danny a bit of loyalty and respect, as opposed to the current incumbent(s)? Nothing more than idle speculation, of course. The notion of players owing their club is a bit Roy of the Rovers, to be honest. Sad, but true, and a reflection of the modern football era. I would say he does owe the club one thing, however, and that is courtesy. That would translate into him not stalling and making a relatively quick decision in order for the manager and coaching staff to make timeous arrangements in terms of a suitable replacement should he opt to move on. ETA: is it also possible that he might feel he would have owed Danny a bit of loyalty and respect, as opposed to the current incumbent(s)? Nothing more than idle speculation, of course. Roy Of The Rovers - I used to love reading Billy's boots remember that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Roy Of The Rovers - I used to love reading Billy's boots remember that one. I think that might be another one for the auld timers, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjerseybuddie Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Darren mcgregor reminds me of Billy stark when he going forward with the ball at his feet. Perhaps a more midfield role would suit him as he does appear to lose his man in defence, thus allowing us to free up space for a new defender while keeping a good footballer at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Roy Of The Rovers - I used to love reading Billy's boots remember that one. Billy's boots Sorry wrong one's Edited May 21, 2014 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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