class of 76-77 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Hmm. I wonder if this means that we have either Tesselaar or Carey coming in. You would have to assume we wouldn't start the season with only Kelly as LB option. Please don't encourage JJ with any kind of hint that Carey might even be contenplating a move back to the buds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Please don't encourage JJ with any kind of hint that Carey might even be contenplating a move back to the buds. Too late mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Please don't encourage JJ with any kind of hint that Carey might even be contenplating a move back to the buds. Gies a signing, any signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Rep Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Gies a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Carey is far more versatile and would be a better option, he can play left mid, right mid, left back and off the striker, he would be a good option to have. Tess left us for an extra 100 quid a week and his agent messed the club about for long enough. You just love Carey don't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 the Mayo is on order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27818733 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27818733 As much as i rated Dilo, we have to move swiftly for next season and the longer we are left waiting for response from players renewing, we could be turning our attention elsewhere. Im glad TC signed up Ridgers and resolved the keeper issue early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota7 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 I totally agree Kevo if players can't even be bothered to get back in contact with the club then it's time to move on and replace them. There will be hundreds of players without a club this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 See Cesc Fabregas has signed for Chelsea. How the f*ck did we miss out? Another one where we must have offered sh*te wages and got knocked back. Sort it out Gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenburnSaint Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I totally agree Kevo if players can't even be bothered to get back in contact with the club then it's time to move on and replace them. There will be hundreds of players without a club this summer. If we were offering shite and they were looking for a better wage packet do you not see their point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota7 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I get where you are coming from but surely they would have the decency to let the club know. Dilo didn't. Who also said what we offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenburnSaint Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I get where you are coming from but surely they would have the decency to let the club know. Dilo didn't. Who also said what we offered? If you were at a club and they offered you money and your agent said to hold out a few weeks as he was working on a few different options which could be worth more then would you not hold off on a decision. Maybe our offer was ok but if he has found a better deal good luck to him. And if the board really rated him then why not have made the offer earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 If you were at a club and they offered you money and your agent said to hold out a few weeks as he was working on a few different options which could be worth more then would you not hold off on a decision. Maybe our offer was ok but if he has found a better deal good luck to him. And if the board really rated him then why not have made the offer earlier? The difference this season (apart from mclean) id that we are not dicking about waiting on players to let us know their future. The mclean situation is slightly different as we are due some sort of development fee. We wait too long, we miss out on potential replacements. Im glad Tommy and the coaches are pressing ahead and identifying players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I'd say the McLean situation is also different as he's a fantastic player - the best player in the squad. If he takes 2 months to decide then signs a new deal, its totally worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 The difference this season (apart from mclean) id that we are not dicking about waiting on players to let us know their future. The mclean situation is slightly different as we are due some sort of development fee. We wait too long, we miss out on potential replacements. Im glad Tommy and the coaches are pressing ahead and identifying players. The other difference is if we withdraw the contract offer then we are not entitled to compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 If we were offering shite and they were looking for a better wage packet do you not see their point? St Mirren now spend one of the highest % of total income on player wages out of all the SPL clubs. And before you blame the board (again) for offering short contracts to players and young players, as soon as guys like McLean, McGinn, Naismith, and Kellybroke into the first team they got extended contracts - in McLean's case there was a 3 year extension and he has been offered new deals since then as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 If you were at a club and they offered you money and your agent said to hold out a few weeks as he was working on a few different options which could be worth more then would you not hold off on a decision. Maybe our offer was ok but if he has found a better deal good luck to him. And if the board really rated him then why not have made the offer earlier? Dilo MIGHT have reflected on which other team in the top flight in ANY developed country would give a 19 year old so many first team starts? He may then regret playing the waiting game and potentially ruining his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Dilo MIGHT have reflected on which other team in the top flight in ANY developed country would give a 19 year old so many first team starts? He may then regret playing the waiting game and potentially ruining his future. I believe if he did sign a new contract he would have been in line to make the number one spot his own after kello moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Dilo MIGHT have reflected on which other team in the top flight in ANY developed country would give a 19 year old so many first team starts? He may then regret playing the waiting game and potentially ruining his future. I believe if he did sign a new contract he would have been in line to make the number one spot his own after kello moves on. He obviously has better offers and much, much better money - which is what counts these days. When will people realise that players were only loyal to a club or planned a career based on first team opportunities when everybody was paid pish money. There are millionaires at football clubs now who will happily take the money and never step on the park from one season to the next. Pantilimon spent 3 seasons at Man City, played seven times and pocketed about £6M. And it's not just in the top leagues either. There is a 20 year old Bulgarian U21 keeper been at Notts Forest for three seasons. He has played for the first team once and been on loan for a few games to the lower leagues. He has earned over £200K since he signed for them - excluding any signing fee he might have been paid. He won't be worried about missing out on being Saints No1, if and when he gets his next chance. Sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 He obviously has better offers and much, much better money - which is what counts these days. When will people realise that players were only loyal to a club or planned a career based on first team opportunities when everybody was paid pish money. There are millionaires at football clubs now who will happily take the money and never step on the park from one season to the next. Pantilimon spent 3 seasons at Man City, played seven times and pocketed about £6M. And it's not just in the top leagues either. There is a 20 year old Bulgarian U21 keeper been at Notts Forest for three seasons. He has played for the first team once and been on loan for a few games to the lower leagues. He has earned over £200K since he signed for them - excluding any signing fee he might have been paid. He won't be worried about missing out on being Saints No1, if and when he gets his next chance. Sad but true. Nobody is talking about loyalty. I personally couldn't care less if he stayed or left. HE may consider he's wasted an opportunity to get perhaps a couple of years of first team top flight experience under his belt at which point, good performances at that level would have secured him a substantially more lucrative contract than he would get now. He may also consider whether not actually responding to an offer AT ALL was a wise move at 19. Now following the clubs announcement of this, he's marked himself out as a bit of a twat to every other club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 They guys gone, he's history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 He obviously has better offers and much, much better money - which is what counts these days. When will people realise that players were only loyal to a club or planned a career based on first team opportunities when everybody was paid pish money. There are millionaires at football clubs now who will happily take the money and never step on the park from one season to the next. Pantilimon spent 3 seasons at Man City, played seven times and pocketed about £6M. And it's not just in the top leagues either. There is a 20 year old Bulgarian U21 keeper been at Notts Forest for three seasons. He has played for the first team once and been on loan for a few games to the lower leagues. He has earned over £200K since he signed for them - excluding any signing fee he might have been paid. He won't be worried about missing out on being Saints No1, if and when he gets his next chance. Sad but true. If he has better offers why is he coming out saying he was forced out the club? He was forced out though was offered a new contract? Laughable. Lets move on, we have a new goalie in anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 If he has better offers why is he coming out saying he was forced out the club? He was forced out though was offered a new contract? Laughable. Lets move on, we have a new goalie in anyways. Agent speak - players are never the guilty party, always the clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 BBC today has a young full back leaving Falkirk for Swansea for £400k. I have never heard of the boy (Kingsley ?) but if they are getting a fee like that for a Champ level player then what price McLean or McGinn ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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