Isabella Duke Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I cant understand why folk r surprised that clubs in England aren't after mclean. Thinking back to the 80s when there was far less cash and loads of Scots in England, even billy stark spent his whole career in Scotland. We lost Paul lambert to Motherwell ffs. McLean is decent but he's not in that league. Mcginn will get a club in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I cant understand why folk r surprised that clubs in England aren't after mclean. Thinking back to the 80s when there was far less cash and loads of Scots in England, even billy stark spent his whole career in Scotland. We lost Paul lambert to Motherwell ffs. McLean is decent but he's not in that league. Mcginn will get a club in England. I don't think McGinn will. SPL isn't rated by England Alblity isn't a problem but height and good pace is especially down there Could you say McGinn is international level? As he will needto be to get a move down in Englad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 He wont get much win bonus . Have you been looking into your crystal ball again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Was not a witty comment just the truth. You wouldn't know the truth if it smack you on the face. Edited June 29, 2014 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 The logic of the current transfer market baffles me at times but I reckon it's now unlikely that any club down south is going to fork out the compensation required for McLean this window. I welcome the opportunity to get another season or two from McLean. Must be frustrating for "the lad" - hopefully he can get an injury free season at last and produce the sort of performances that we all know he's capable of. Their loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Kenny is a class act. We are lucky to have him. He is capable of playing at the highest level and indeed for Scotland. No doubt about it. I see a resemblance between him and the boy James that scored a wonder goal for Colombia last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutherglenbud Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I don't think McGinn will. SPL isn't rated by England Alblity isn't a problem but height and good pace is especially down there Could you say McGinn is international level? As he will needto be to get a move down in Englad Yes you could considering he was captain of the international u19 team! So Scotland have recognised him. Must be something in England that the clubs don't see in Kenny, maybe he is too lightweight to play there as his compensation fee is hardly much as I've researched this. McLean would require compensation of 140k whereas next summer we can expect 360k for McGinn. If there has already been bids for McGinn it's clear to see how clubs in England rate each player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) I am delighted that he might be staying but if he wants the move he craves he needs to be consistently excellent,the fact that no club were willing to pay the nominal fee to take him down south speaks volumes,hopefully their loss will be our gain in the coming seasonYou really have no idea what you are talking about. We knocked back a sizeable offer for him quite some time ago. Edited June 29, 2014 by BuddieinEK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Yes you could considering he was captain of the international u19 team! So Scotland have recognised him. Must be something in England that the clubs don't see in Kenny, maybe he is too lightweight to play there as his compensation fee is hardly much as I've researched this. McLean would require compensation of 140k whereas next summer we can expect 360k for McGinn. If there has already been bids for McGinn it's clear to see how clubs in England rate each player. £140k? I'm not sure you've researched this correctly bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'm surprised no English team has taken a chance on Kenny - especially when you compare his record to someone like Fraser Fyvie who Aberdeen sold for around £500,000. Would really like to see him sign a new and improved 2 year deal. Hopefully he can stay injury free this season and perform at a consistently high standard and earn a lucrative move next summer down south. With his talent and passing skills I think he would be better suited to the English game. As for Fyvie - since he left Aberdeen he has played a total of 7 games - 1 for Wigan, 2 for Yeovil and 4 for Shrewsbury Town. Aberdeen also sold Ryan Fraser for £400,000 to AFC Bournemouth. Perhaps we need to get Fitzy back into the club as PR man to start talking up our players in the press in the same way that Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and Hamilton have done in recent years. For a club of our size to survive and prosper we need to continue to develop and sell on our youth development graduates as well as improving our off-field commercial activities. Ideally we can sell on a few for big bucks - and set aside some money for when TV revenues dry up or we are relegated. Yeah and was it Callum King that went from Hearts for £1.5 m WTF was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) You wouldn't know the truth if it smack you on the face. Have you been looking into your crystal ball again. Listen if you think St Mirren are all of a sudden going to start winning more than about a dozen games a season your deluded other than if we go into the championship.And thats counting cup games . Edited June 29, 2014 by elvis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani bongo Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Listen if you think St Mirren are all of a sudden going to start winning more than about a dozen games a season your deluded other than if we go into the championship.And thats counting cup games . Is there someone holding a gun to your head making you support St Mirren. If I was you I'd chuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Are you another one who thinks we are going to start winning loads of games . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Are you another one who thinks we are going to start winning loads of games . Can't take you seriously after you said it was a 'certainty we were going to get relegated' last season. Do you even take yourself seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani bongo Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Are you another one who thinks we are going to start winning loads of games . If I thought that I'd f**k off and support Barcelona. I'm a Buddie through and through and listening to your shite gets on my tits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 If I thought that I'd f**k off and support Barcelona. I'm a Buddie through and through and listening to your shite gets on my tits. He's in the wrong camp, if he's a glory hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints0 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Listen if you think St Mirren are all of a sudden going to start winning more than about a dozen games a season your deluded other than if we go into the championship.And thats counting cup games . Careful elvis,they will have you down as a sevco fan for realism like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Careful elvis,they will have you down as a sevco fan for realism like that They. So we are categorised now. They being the optimists. Fine by me. After all, its only a game of football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldyOzBud Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 They. So we are categorised now. They being the optimists. Fine by me. After all, its only a game of football. Exactly. I prefer to think of myself as an optimistic pragmatist, I'm willing to concede that we are highly unlikely to be pushing for a top three or four spot, and that our only chance of getting into Europe is a Scottish Cup win. I'm also willing to concede that at this moment a top six spot is possibly out of our reach. The only absolute that I hold to is that I will absolutely continue to support the team that I love regardless of how we are playing, who is playing for us and how our results pan out. SMTID KTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Similar outlook to myself BOB, I always hope,never expect,but the Team and those in charge can count on my support. This is the way of the Buddies Supporter in my view.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints0 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Exactly. I prefer to think of myself as an optimistic pragmatist, I'm willing to concede that we are highly unlikely to be pushing for a top three or four spot, and that our only chance of getting into Europe is a Scottish Cup win. I'm also willing to concede that at this moment a top six spot is possibly out of our reach. The only absolute that I hold to is that I will absolutely continue to support the team that I love regardless of how we are playing, who is playing for us and how our results pan out. SMTID KTF I agree with your last sentence completely,i just wish people who voice their concerns over signings,team,manager etc were not shouted down on here as not being true supporters,sevco fans and the like.This is supposed to be a forum not a sycophantic love in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutherglenbud Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 £140k? I'm not sure you've researched this correctly bud. You will be surprised, st mirren can't get any club to pay the full compensation so are willing to take the cut in compo so that Kenny doesn't leave for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 You will be surprised, st mirren can't get any club to pay the full compensation so are willing to take the cut in compo so that Kenny doesn't leave for nothing. Where did you research this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 You will be surprised, st mirren can't get any club to pay the full compensation so are willing to take the cut in compo so that Kenny doesn't leave for nothing. Ok that's not true. He will either leave for the full compensation or he will stay. He can leave for nothing in 2 years, not before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutherglenbud Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Do you not think Kenny would have signed a new contract earlier if he really wanted to stay, the only reason he is staying is because no English club were willing to pay his compensation and that is a fact. Believe it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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