TopCat Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Do you not think Kenny would have signed a new contract earlier if he really wanted to stay, the only reason he is staying is because no English club were willing to pay his compensation and that is a fact. Believe it or not Well of course? He can't leave for nothing though. So why would we negotiate down the compensation? Why not just keep him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Do you not think Kenny would have signed a new contract earlier if he really wanted to stay, the only reason he is staying is because no English club were willing to pay his compensation and that is a fact. Believe it or not. My hunch too that the club is in a three way stand-off with McLean and some unknown English club(s). Contractual situations these days are complicated and there were rumours (on P&B OK not the most reliable source) that James McCarthy's move from Wigan to Everton last August involved Hamilton having to take a hit on the sell-on part of the first transfer. Speculation & bullshit, the common currency of the football forum - all fun & games until someone, inevitably, has a meltdown. Edited June 30, 2014 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon the saints!! Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Kenny is expected to sign a 2 year contract in the next few days, most probably on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn ed Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Kenny is expected to sign a 2 year contract in the next few days, most probably on Wednesday.And McAusland will get the blame for that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 And McAusland will get the blame for that as well Why, what is he being blamed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Do you not think Kenny would have signed a new contract earlier if he really wanted to stay, the only reason he is staying is because no English club were willing to pay his compensation and that is a fact. Believe it or not No, our spl status, management team and budget were all unknown earlier. Hence the wait. Only sensible for both club and player. There are english teams sniffing around, but I think he will make the right decision. Of course he could still move and then we all look stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuurner Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Swansea have just signed Stephen Kingsley from Falkirk for £325k so I would think there would be a fair few clubs willing to pay up for Kenny (not that I want them to). http://www.falkirkfc.co.uk/blog/swansea-city-swoop-for-kingsley/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook 325k according to @agentscotland Edited June 30, 2014 by tuurner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuurner Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 That sort of money is chicken feed for EPL clubs. So it does surprise me no large bids have been tabled by EPL or Championship clubs for McGinn and Mclean as they have proven themselves in the top league in Scotland, each won a major domestic honour and international recognition at u21 level which is more than this youngster from Falkirk. Good luck to the lad Kingsley - hope he makes a success of this opportunity - tough league to get regular games though. McGinn for me is a very special talent and I think he has a massive heid future in the game. If Goodwin plays less this season I'd like to see McGinn given a more prominent role as the defensive holding midfielder. Look how successful Paul Lambert became in that role with Dortmund and Scotland. Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Callum King I believe is still at Hearts. Talking of big transfer fees received by Scottish clubs. How about Craig Gordon - £9,000,000 paid by Sunderland - yet Hearts still went into administration. What a clusterf**k of a club. Adm King His brorther. Fee is undisclosed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuurner Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) That sort of money is chicken feed for EPL clubs. So it does surprise me no large bids have been tabled by EPL or Championship clubs for McGinn and Mclean as they have proven themselves in the top league in Scotland, each won a major domestic honour and international recognition at u21 level which is more than this youngster from Falkirk. Good luck to the lad Kingsley - hope he makes a success of this opportunity - tough league to get regular games though. McGinn for me is a very special talent and I think he has a massive heid future in the game. If Goodwin plays less this season I'd like to see McGinn given a more prominent role as the defensive holding midfielder. Look how successful Paul Lambert became in that role with Dortmund and Scotland. Both McGinn and McLean are amazing talents but we'll be doing well if we hold on to both longer than next summer providing they are still here come the end of the transfer window. Edited June 30, 2014 by tuurner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_the_saint Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Adm King His brorther. Fee is undisclosed, I was sure it was billy king that was with hearts n who was Adam kings brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Not convinced Kenny is staying, this is dragging on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'll be surprised if they move this year. Both have performed well for us but are probably seen as only slightly better than average in the scheme of things. they are also well adrift of the fitness standard required for Championship clubs. Both need to do a power of work before they start to measure up to the benchmark down south-it really is fitness and physique that is the difference between average and good players these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'll be surprised if they move this year. Both have performed well for us but are probably seen as only slightly better than average in the scheme of things. they are also well adrift of the fitness standard required for Championship clubs. Both need to do a power of work before they start to measure up to the benchmark down south-it really is fitness and physique that is the difference between average and good players these days.[/quoteHarkins was a success at Oldham! Hardly a workaholic. As was Snodgrass, Broadfoot etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If he signs a one year deal whats the cut off age where we wouldn't get development compensation? Could he potentially go for free next season? 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Couldn't go for a free next summer but could the season after I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Harkins was a success at Oldham! Hardly a workaholic. As was Snodgrass, Broadfoot etc Was he? Might not have been the disaster he was with us but he didn't earn himself a permanent deal and he's back in Scotland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Was he? Might not have been the disaster he was with us but he didn't earn himself a permanent deal and he's back in Scotland! According to an interview with him in the media he was offered a contact at Oldham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I'll be surprised if they move this year. Both have performed well for us but are probably seen as only slightly better than average in the scheme of things. they are also well adrift of the fitness standard required for Championship clubs. Both need to do a power of work before they start to measure up to the benchmark down south-it really is fitness and physique that is the difference between average and good players these days.[/quoteHarkins was a success at Oldham! Hardly a workaholic. As was Snodgrass, Broadfoot etc Nobody on here is touting harkins as a potential big-money target for an upwardly-mobile championship club, but plenty are suggesting that McGinn & McLean are worthy of six-figure sums and more. i was simply highlighting the quality of the players they will be assessed against and that they are works in progress on the fitness and physique front Edited July 1, 2014 by beyond our ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 According to an interview with him in the media he was offered a contact at Oldham. Strange, not that I doubt you, just seems to run contrary to the way of things these days unless we really pushed the boat out to sign him last season - oh well apologies to cambiebud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeian1877 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Signing tomorrow!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Signing tomorrow!!!! Yes yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Signing tomorrow!!!! Shhhhhhh!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 oh well apologies to cambiebud. Apology accepted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm scarred to ask, for who? Were you asking in Feegie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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