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I blame Motherwell, Hamilton Accies and Hearts for not giving Celtic a good enough test in the domestic games which Celtic won 1-0, 1-2 and drew 0-0 before they were pitched into a European game against a mighty Norwegian team in the Europa League. Is it any wonder they only lost 3-1 when they romp home by one goal against Scottish opponents week after week?

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Owned , completely. It's cringeworthy actually. Molde play a great passing and move game. Ra Sellic look like a pub team

Ahhhh but the ref ruined the game by sending one of them off. That never happens normally, I mean how are they supposed to prepare for such an eventuality?

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During much of the 80s, we had Aberdeen and Dundee Utd doing well in Europe. Aberdeen won the Cup Winners Cup, and Utd reached a European Cup semi final and a UEFA Cup Final. Both clubs were fairly regularly beating good teams from England, Germany and Spain.

There are probably various reasons why things have gone wrong, with the Bosman Ruling a very significant factor.

But I'm always very sceptical when the media or either of the OF bemoan the current state of Scottish football or the level of competition, as let's face it, those two clubs have effectively run the game for their own benefit over the past 30 odd years. It was the OF that decided that home clubs should keep their own gates, which clearly improved their own financial status and denigrated those of their rivals. It was the OF that decided to flex that financial muscle by bringing in players from England and abroad on massively over inflated wages, and by continuing to hoover up the best Scottish talent and usually leave it sitting in the stands or on the subs bench. David Murray famously challenged the other clubs to speculate in order to bring success. It ended up with Celtic being saved at the last minute by Fergus McCann and Rangers eventually being liquidated. Other clubs also ran up huge debts, which has led to many clubs going into Administration or finding other creative ways to shed debt.

There's a lot wrong with Scottish football, but a good starting point would be to run the game for the overall good of the game from grassroots to senior level, rather than for the benefit of two clubs, that have, at times, proved incapable of managing themselves never mind Scottish football.

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During much of the 80s, we had Aberdeen and Dundee Utd doing well in Europe. Aberdeen won the Cup Winners Cup, and Utd reached a European Cup semi final and a UEFA Cup Final. Both clubs were fairly regularly beating good teams from England, Germany and Spain.

There are probably various reasons why things have gone wrong, with the Bosman Ruling a very significant factor.

But I'm always very sceptical when the media or either of the OF bemoan the current state of Scottish football or the level of competition, as let's face it, those two clubs have effectively run the game for their own benefit over the past 30 odd years. It was the OF that decided that home clubs should keep their own gates, which clearly improved their own financial status and denigrated those of their rivals. It was the OF that decided to flex that financial muscle by bringing in players from England and abroad on massively over inflated wages, and by continuing to hoover up the best Scottish talent and usually leave it sitting in the stands or on the subs bench. David Murray famously challenged the other clubs to speculate in order to bring success. It ended up with Celtic being saved at the last minute by Fergus McCann and Rangers eventually being liquidated. Other clubs also ran up huge debts, which has led to many clubs going into Administration or finding other creative ways to shed debt.

There's a lot wrong with Scottish football, but a good starting point would be to run the game for the overall good of the game from grassroots to senior level, rather than for the benefit of two clubs, that have, at times, proved incapable of managing themselves never mind Scottish football.

far too sensible a post

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During much of the 80s, we had Aberdeen and Dundee Utd doing well in Europe. Aberdeen won the Cup Winners Cup, and Utd reached a European Cup semi final and a UEFA Cup Final. Both clubs were fairly regularly beating good teams from England, Germany and Spain.

There are probably various reasons why things have gone wrong, with the Bosman Ruling a very significant factor.

But I'm always very sceptical when the media or either of the OF bemoan the current state of Scottish football or the level of competition, as let's face it, those two clubs have effectively run the game for their own benefit over the past 30 odd years. It was the OF that decided that home clubs should keep their own gates, which clearly improved their own financial status and denigrated those of their rivals. It was the OF that decided to flex that financial muscle by bringing in players from England and abroad on massively over inflated wages, and by continuing to hoover up the best Scottish talent and usually leave it sitting in the stands or on the subs bench. David Murray famously challenged the other clubs to speculate in order to bring success. It ended up with Celtic being saved at the last minute by Fergus McCann and Rangers eventually being liquidated. Other clubs also ran up huge debts, which has led to many clubs going into Administration or finding other creative ways to shed debt.

There's a lot wrong with Scottish football, but a good starting point would be to run the game for the overall good of the game from grassroots to senior level, rather than for the benefit of two clubs, that have, at times, proved incapable of managing themselves never mind Scottish football.

Just to make a mockery of the pundits that point to Celtic's poor euro form being as a result of the 'quality' and money in the scottish game. Look no further than the biggest multi billion money spinning league in the world in our neighbours place that has now gone several years without even having a representative in the champions league semi or final!!!

Now thats underachievement in another stratosphere compared to the money and quality available up here.

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Have to laugh at Celtic's failure in Europe being down to the poor quality domestic opposition they have to face week in, week out.... The cnuts just destroyed a decent Dundee United side by hoovering up Cifci, Mackay-Steven and Armstrong, and are now after Christie at ICT.

An absolute joke blaming the standard of other clubs!

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34763139

Again... and again, and again. Year after year, after year. The greatest supporters in the world my fcuking arse.

The usual empty words from the Irish club... 'Embarrassing'...'they aren't welcome'... Aye. Sure they aren't... They're your core customer group, you bullshit-spouting barstewards.

The next sound we hear from the owners of the Irish club will be the faint sound of a brush sweeping under a carpet. Again... and again, and again. Year after year, after year.

Hard to believe that some St Mirren fans still want the Irish club to win in Europe. For the sake of a co-efficient?

Fcuk these cnuts, their Green Brigade, their lowlife scum republican minded neanderthal fans and their desire to play in England / blame Scottish football for their abject misery in Europe.

Co-efficient. Do me a favour.

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During much of the 80s, we had Aberdeen and Dundee Utd doing well in Europe. Aberdeen won the Cup Winners Cup, and Utd reached a European Cup semi final and a UEFA Cup Final. Both clubs were fairly regularly beating good teams from England, Germany and Spain.

There are probably various reasons why things have gone wrong, with the Bosman Ruling a very significant factor.

But I'm always very sceptical when the media or either of the OF bemoan the current state of Scottish football or the level of competition, as let's face it, those two clubs have effectively run the game for their own benefit over the past 30 odd years. It was the OF that decided that home clubs should keep their own gates, which clearly improved their own financial status and denigrated those of their rivals. It was the OF that decided to flex that financial muscle by bringing in players from England and abroad on massively over inflated wages, and by continuing to hoover up the best Scottish talent and usually leave it sitting in the stands or on the subs bench. David Murray famously challenged the other clubs to speculate in order to bring success. It ended up with Celtic being saved at the last minute by Fergus McCann and Rangers eventually being liquidated. Other clubs also ran up huge debts, which has led to many clubs going into Administration or finding other creative ways to shed debt.

There's a lot wrong with Scottish football, but a good starting point would be to run the game for the overall good of the game from grassroots to senior level, rather than for the benefit of two clubs, that have, at times, proved incapable of managing themselves never mind Scottish football.

Never a truer word said

But things will change for the better once Sevco are back playing their fellow bigots at least 4 times a season

According to our media after all it's the greatest derby game in the world

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Never a truer word said

But things will change for the better once Sevco are back playing their fellow bigots at least 4 times a season

According to our media after all it's the greatest derby game in the world

As we often hear - it's the best wee country in the world! :)

With possibly the most famous derby game in fitba to showcase our nation, with pride - all based on exploiting bigotry.

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