faraway saint Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 You really are an odious individual. You come on here insinuating that the reason your proposal failed was because saints fans didn't back it. But when presented with the truth from the consortium's statement that: "they had no confidence your proposal was sustainable" you resort to the troll/schoolboy tactics of name calling and trying to deny the truth. Didn't we half dodge a bullet with you! Irony alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 You really are an odious individual. You come on here insinuating that the reason your proposal failed was because saints fans didn't back it. But when presented with the truth from the consortium's statement that: "they had no confidence your proposal was sustainable" you resort to the troll/schoolboy tactics of name calling and trying to deny the truth. Didn't we half dodge a bullet with you! Logical Fallacy KLAXON https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Logical Fallacy KLAXONhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominemWell at least you know what you were found out on. Perhaps now you've accepted it you can be a better person for it?The lord loves a sinner...... But not half as much as he loves The Saints.... SMTID Edited August 5, 2014 by Lord Pityme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well at least you know what you were found out on. Perhaps now you've accepted it you can be a better person for it? The lord loves a sinner...... But not half as much as he loves The Saints.... SMTID Glad to see at last your arguments have petered out. But if you now wish to exchange theological views then feel free to continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Glad to see at last your arguments have petered out. But if you now wish to exchange theological views then feel free to continue Sure.... The Bible's made up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Sure.... The Bible's made up! You can always tell when someone loses an argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCracken Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Your Lordship, it's totally fine to enter in to the world of creative writing for your posts, it's a fans forum after all, anyone with even a basic education knows to take all content with a pinch of salt. It's frustrating as the forum becomes a cesspit, however personally I've no great issue with posters spouting shyte, the onus is on the reader to filter. In truth that goes for the internet in general. Anyone who is gullible enough to swallow the written word hook, line and sinker has, I would imagine, got more to worry about in life. The difference here is that you are clearly not content with your works of fiction, but rather want to debate the 'facts' with the one guy on this thread who, like it or not, actually knows what he is talking about. I wasn't convinced by the 10000 hours business model, I stand by that opinion to this day, however they gave it a good go. Agree, disagree, whatever, but don't argue black is white with the guy with the colour chart, it's tedious. First rule of street fighting, know when to run. First rule of using an alias to back yourself up. Don't make it so bleedin' obvious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) You can always tell when someone loses an argument.Yeah they don't make a 'Sustainable' caseAnd even devout christians can't argue that the bible is made up! Edited August 5, 2014 by Lord Pityme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCracken Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 First rule of using an alias to back yourself up. Don't make it so bleedin' obvious! : For the avoidance of doubt... this post is not directed at WP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrong Planet Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 For the avoidance of doubt... this post is not directed at WP! Cheers Phil, thankfully there's "Only one Wrong Planet, one....". TBH, I struggle to manage a single logon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 For the avoidance of doubt... this post is not directed at WP! Even you are struggling to keep on top of your multiple AKA's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 nope not guilty...i post as me. I am sure Div will confirm that the I.P addresses of those you claim are my aliases are different. But when you lose the argument feel free to move the goal posts. think i will get a lot of use out of this website: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil McCracken Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Even you are struggling to keep on top of your multiple AKA's Not just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 But back to OP. Can it work yes it can. Is it simple no. Do the 52% have the desire to sell in stages rather than lump sum as before? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 drop the dead donkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 drop the dead donkey It's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel! Or sswitching a light on to lure the flies to their inevitable fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It's a bit like shooting fish in a barrel! Or sswitching a light on to lure the flies to their inevitable fate. That said we are getting more frequent and sustained communication now than we ever did during the various takeover proposals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I was quite proud of the fact that over 1100 St.Mirren fans pledged to put money into the share purchase with real hard direct debit pledges. That was 1/3 of our season ticket population and that was even with false starts, and confusion/suspicion about the whole project. I was always convinced that fan ownership was the right model for our club and that the numbers involved would grow further if the fans got control. The consortium obviously had concerns and decided to reject the bid which was their right to do so. That was two years ago now. I know interested buyers have come and gone since then. I still get abuse every now and again from the odd punter here and there for my involvement in the 10000hours thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I was quite proud of the fact that over 1100 St.Mirren fans pledged to put money into the share purchase with real hard direct debit pledges. That was 1/3 of our season ticket population and that was even with false starts, and confusion/suspicion about the whole project. I was always convinced that fan ownership was the right model for our club and that the numbers involved would grow further if the fans got control. The consortium obviously had concerns and decided to reject the bid which was their right to do so. That was two years ago now. I know interested buyers have come and gone since then. I still get abuse every now and again from the odd punter here and there for my involvement in the 10000hours thing Do I get a refund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Do I get a refund? Naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 I was quite proud of the fact that over 1100 St.Mirren fans pledged to put money into the share purchase with real hard direct debit pledges. That was 1/3 of our season ticket population and that was even with false starts, and confusion/suspicion about the whole project. I was always convinced that fan ownership was the right model for our club and that the numbers involved would grow further if the fans got control. The consortium obviously had concerns and decided to reject the bid which was their right to do so. That was two years ago now. I know interested buyers have come and gone since then. I still get abuse every now and again from the odd punter here and there for my involvement in the 10000hours thing Yeah, boo.....boo....All your fault. ☺☺ Anyway...entirely agree considering it all and where we came from 1000+ contributors was great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Yeah, boo.....boo....All your fault. ☺☺ Anyway...entirely agree considering it all and where we came from 1000+ contributors was great No need for thanks but...........................thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyLavatory Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Slightly off-topic but I believe SMISA are trying to hoover up as many shares as they can from existing minority shareholders. I think it's a good start. Now if they could then persuade Ken McGeoch and/or Gordon Scott to sell to them is it not feasible that they could find themselves owning in the region of more than 30% of the club? And if that could be achieved, how hard would it then be to approach members of the selling consortium and see if they would be willing to break ranks and sell their shares separately? Morale must be low among the group. Could Evelyn Purves or Alan Marshall be tempted? Then if you do that then you can't be far off controlling 51%. Or is that pie in the sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) Slightly off-topic but I believe SMISA are trying to hoover up as many shares as they can from existing minority shareholders. I think it's a good start. Now if they could then persuade Ken McGeoch and/or Gordon Scott to sell to them is it not feasible that they could find themselves owning in the region of more than 30% of the club? And if that could be achieved, how hard would it then be to approach members of the selling consortium and see if they would be willing to break ranks and sell their shares separately? Morale must be low among the group. Could Evelyn Purves or Alan Marshall be tempted? Then if you do that then you can't be far off controlling 51%. Or is that pie in the sky? Not sure how they would get out of the consortium? The sharers are now owned by the controlling company Douglas Street Ltd to sell as 52%. Don't think this has changed. Edited August 9, 2014 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Not sure how they would get out of the consortium? The sharers are now owned by the controlling company Douglas Street Ltd to sell as 52%. Don't think this has changed. i'd say you are right on this,can't just walk out on douglas street ltd, i'd assume that company is set up in such a way that if you want out you would have to sell your share to the company,just my thoughts on it obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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