BuddieinEK Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Goodwin was immense at the end of last season. Played like a captain and kept the heid. When he is like that he is an absolute must in our team. However he is being discriminated against now and does not seem to recognise it. He must help himself by not getting into stupid situations but the club must also protect him from unwarranted abuse. But the bottom line is its Jim's responsibility otherwise he should leave not just St Mirren but Scotland if he wants to continue a career in football. He went close to Sutton... how is that a stupid situation? The guy is being prevented from doing his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie1993 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Checked out the highlights on YouTube and although the camera does not zoom in on the incident it does look like he's hit Sutton in the back with his elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Checked out the highlights on YouTube and although the camera does not zoom in on the incident it does look like he's hit Sutton in the back with his elbow. was it a push? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 f**king ridiculous that Jim was sent off for what was in effect a nothing incident.Both Callum Murray and his assistant should be demoted to the lower leagues for such an outrageous f**k up. If he had elbowed Sutton then why no straight red ? both referee and assistant f**ked up in monumental style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Checked out the highlights on YouTube and although the camera does not zoom in on the incident it does look like he's hit Sutton in the back with his elbow. And the case for the prosecution after studying evidence is "looks like". You do realise that in a court that would be inadmissible! !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Jim Goodwin is the type of player every supporter should want in their team. A jersey til they die kind of player. Take no prisoners mentality. Yes he needs to rein it in now and again but we have been crying out for a player like him since the legend that is Billy Abercromby. Make no mistake, the SFA are clearly gunning for him again but stick by him. Eventually they will be shown up for the utter ring pieces that they are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Yards Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Maybe it'll wake the board up and we'll get a replacement defensive mid in now! More likely to try and turn someone else who plays a different position into one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie1993 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 was it a push? I don't think Jim was pushed, so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdo Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 a the fickle football fan, one minute youre a legend the next, not fit to wear the strip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdo Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 be nice to know how many commenting on here were actually there...... we are all jim Goodwin? anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Never a foul, never mind a booking, in a million years. Sutton wasn't even claiming anything. Wonder if the TV will highlight it, now that it's been proven to have no substance to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 be nice to know how many commenting on here were actually there...... we are all jim Goodwin? anyone? Me for one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Goodwin was immense at the end of last season. Played like a captain and kept the heid. When he is like that he is an absolute must in our team. Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Never a foul, never mind a booking, in a million years. Sutton wasn't even claiming anything. Wonder if the TV will highlight it, now that it's been proven to have no substance to it. It's time the club came out and backed the man and put pressure on this witch hunt The man looked distraught coming off the pitch Must be galling when you have committed only 2 fouls the whole game and they weren't serious and your off Meanwhile McGinn and Lasley(Yet again) having a ding dong the whole game and no cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aber 87 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was at the game yesterday and Goody got booked for his first tackle. Lasley and Sutton had both committed 3 fouls each by then. Didn't see 2nd incident, but he should have been taken off by then as he had become ineffective. I like him in the team but he really needs to look at himself. PS the poster the put Goody and Billy Abercromby in the same sentence please go and see your doctor asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was at the game yesterday and Goody got booked for his first tackle. Lasley and Sutton had both committed 3 fouls each by then. Didn't see 2nd incident, but he should have been taken off by then as he had become ineffective. I like him in the team but he really needs to look at himself. PS the poster the put Goody and Billy Abercromby in the same sentence please go and see your doctor asap Snap ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 It's time the club came out and backed the man and put pressure on this witch hunt The man looked distraught coming off the pitch Must be galling when you have committed only 2 fouls the whole game and they weren't serious and your off Meanwhile McGinn and Lasley(Yet again) having a ding dong the whole game and no cards To be fair, they have done in the past. However, in this case I feel that either TC or Gary Teale should make it clear to the media that the decision was wrong and that TV evidence backs this up. A comment about officials and players being "out to get" Goodwin wouldn't go amiss either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Would've been a straight red for that no? I would have thought so. It's surely beyond the point of defense though. Goodwin clearly has something in his head that makes him think he's a victim, but the truth is the victims yesterday were his teammates that he's yet again let down with his stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I would have thought so. It's surely beyond the point of defense though. Goodwin clearly has something in his head that makes him think he's a victim, but the truth is the victims yesterday were his teammates that he's yet again let down with his stupidity. There wasn't any foul, as has already been pointed out and TV pictures back this up. The officials f**ked up badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC7 Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 When do we find out the official reason behind it ? When s the ref report published ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 If he was sent off for nothing yesterday then it actually makes the situation even worse. It means that in 2 of our last 6 games we have had a player sent off, not for what he has done on the day, but for what he has done in the past. If that's not a liability then I don't know what is. It's not about whether Jim is in the right or wrong, it's about the position we find himself in with him. He's a marked man, and I don't think that's going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockWithTheCaveman Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Notwithstanding the fact that Jim Goodwin is a cup-winning captain, the team is better with him in midfield, doing the dirty work. Great example is how poor John McGinn was at Carlisle without him there, and how well he played yesterday. Forums such as this are good to promote people's opinions and stimulate debate, so mine is that this thread and some of the comments within are absolutely cringeworthy. It is bad enough that Jim Goodwin is targeted by opposition fans, players and even, it would appear, officials without his own 'supporters' turning on him at every opportunity. Perhaps we'd be happier if Jim Goodwin was as cute as Keith Lasley, making the most of any contact, time wasting, etc. His cheating yesterday was blatant, but poor, weak officiating saw him almost coast through the game without fear of action being taken against him. Everyone is disappointed about yesterday's result but to single out one player is ridiculous - why not a 'Greg Wylde Liability' thread, given that his final ball - if decent - would've won us the game quite comfortably, or how he missed that chance when clean through? I'm not advocating this thread to be created, fwiw. Let's look at the positives - we played good football, were solid and comfortable for the most part and had 20 efforts on goal. Keep the faith, Buddies, and let's smash this mob from Hamilton!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Some of the posters on this thread should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iohn a Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 I agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Was at the game yesterday and Goody got booked for his first tackle. Lasley and Sutton had both committed 3 fouls each by then. Didn't see 2nd incident, but he should have been taken off by then as he had become ineffective. I like him in the team but he really needs to look at himself. PS the poster the put Goody and Billy Abercromby in the same sentence please go and see your doctor asap Both St Mirren Cup winning Captains always going to be in the same sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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