Dibbles old paperboy Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Quite a rant there, you feeling ok?When did I say Tommy was doing a great job? This great team that's being discussed actually finished in a lower position than the current team is in. What does the point total matter? Positions pays prize money, points doesn't. Points total might not matter as much as the final league position but it does give an indication of how many games you've won, lost or drawn in that season... and that season where we finished 11th we had one of our highest points totals in the SPL and had John McGinn breaking into the team, Goncalves on loan from January, the cup win, and Teale on great form for a lot of the season... plenty of silver linings and decent performances... including running Celtic close twice in 2013 after beating them in the semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Points total might not matter as much as the final league position but it does give an indication of how many games you've won, lost or drawn in that season... and that season where we finished 11th we had one of our highest points totals in the SPL and had John McGinn breaking into the team, Goncalves on loan from January, the cup win, and Teale on great form for a lot of the season... plenty of silver linings and decent performances... including running Celtic close twice in 2013 after beating them in the semi final. I prefer just looking at the position, and I'm sure our board and accountants do too. Squad wise, the team that season was certainly the best I've seen at St Mirren. Guys like Dummett (currently first choice in the EPL) Isma (currently scoring goals at continental level) and Scottish internationalists Thommo and Teale playing some of the best football of their career. Experienced pros like Parkin, Imrie and Guy could barely get a look in. Let us not get the rose tinted specs on though. The cup win was tremendous and you will never see me talk it down. It's glory showed how good that team could be. However, the league form of that side was nothing short of a disgrace given the talent we had. We were at least good enough to finish top 6. Instead, we finished 2nd bottom. I remember we lost home and away to a rubbish Dundee side then got humped 3-0 by a poor Hearts team with nothing to play for at the end of the season, and this forum going into meltdown. Relegation suddenly became a very real possibility, and many normally sensible posters thought it would happen. Thankfully we were saved by a diving Peter Pawlett the next day and we stayed up. That team was safe from relegation with two games to go, just like last seasons team. Difference being that there was only one relegation spot that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmeiksy Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Why don't you just Fu@k Off Tommy please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donport Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Let's face it this Manager is totally out of his depth as is the players he brought in , we are a joke!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjerseybuddie Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Unfortunately he has terrible injury situation to deflect the blame away from him. It's unlikely he will be bagged unless the board really grow a pair. It might be costly to get shot of him but no where near as costly as relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Surely we could all get together and raise enough money to pay off this cunts contract? Sick to death of him and his group of no marks ruining my Saturdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langbank Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Even though he is useless, the blame should lie with the people who made the unforgivable and pathetic decision to put a guy who has proven he is not up to the job of manager in the position in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Even though he is useless, the blame should lie with the people who made the unforgivable and pathetic decision to put a guy who has proven he is not up to the job of manager in the position in the first place. Agree with this....But he's got the job so we need to get behind him and the players, we're still in a position that we are competing with the teams around us and avoid relegation. Edited November 1, 2014 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donport Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I think the fans have given him support to be honest albeit grudgingly to to performances , but to go on with this shambles is really not an option , end of! We are really starting to implode as a club which is making for very worrying times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Craig's time is now up for me whilst we still have s chance of staying up.A lazy appointment his signings and tactics have been awful. The object of the game is to score and defend and we can do neither.He has no motivational or organisationsl skills whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loomo Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Craig's time is now up for me whilst we still have s chance of staying up.A lazy appointment his signings and tactics have been awful. The object of the game is to score and defend and we can do neither.He has no motivational or organisationsl skills whatsoever. Ok, here we go. Who should we get in to replace him? I can recommend many, but who would actually be willing to come in and take over the poisoned chalice? I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Next week's game is now the proverbial 6 pointer - however its hard to see where a win is coming from tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Ok, here we go. Who should we get in to replace him? I can recommend many, but who would actually be willing to come in and take over the poisoned chalice? I Give Paisley panda the gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donport Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 There would be plenty of ambitious Managers willing to take on this job as we are still a good club with potential so don't think that all we need is the new ownership thing to be sorted and we can get this done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Don't think we'll see a new appointment until the sale of the club goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 There's still a chance. All we need is for the board yo get a spine transplant and bag Craig. Whilst that is always a gamble, Craig had proven himself inept. The board should try sell a championship club and see how their asset depreciates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Ok, here we go. Who should we get in to replace him? I can recommend many, but who would actually be willing to come in and take over the poisoned chalice? I Who knows?! The fact the we didn't even f**king advertise the manager's position in the summer means that neither you, I or anyone has any idea just what calibre of manager would be willing to come to an established Premiership club with no debt, their own high standard of training facilities, within 5 minutes of an international airport and the 3rd best rated youth setup in the country. After all, it's a c**t of a job, eh?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I know you can't keep making excuses surly some of you realize the number of key players out injured is going to have an adverse effect so no matter who was the manager I still think we would struggle as we don't have the depth in our pool of players. Just pray we stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Don't think we'll see a new appointment until the sale of the club goes through.Which could be sooner than you think...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota7 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Fingers crossed it's sooner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Which could be sooner than you think...... To be fair, my posts on the matter show that I'm thinking along similar lines to yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a50lennyc Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I know you can't keep making excuses surly some of you realize the number of key players out injured is going to have an adverse effect so no matter who was the manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svard svard Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 To be fair, my posts on the matter show that I'm thinking along similar lines to yourself.Thinking and a wee bit of knowing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Just watched his interview at Tannadice moaning about not scoring. Yes but conceded three. The man has well and truly lost the plot. We simply can't keep a clean sheet. His time is well and truly up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Never called for a managers head, and I won't here either. Point is as a club we have been hamstrung for years now while we are 'for Sale'. TC is just the latest in a line of guys who try to do better than get us treading water to stay afloat, yet fail our expectations.......... Fans are sick of it , the product is completely gash, the limitations on us this year are unbelievable, our 36 y o talisman is unavailable and we struggle ??? Couldn't make it up , it's pathetic. The weakest Top league for years and look at us, truly dire. Plenty has been said on here about dismal times et al etc etc etc , but frankly , currently, this is as bad as I've seen us in a decade.. I'll be there next week though, but frankly , expectations are now so far down the food chain that MCDonald's looks like a culinary oasis Edited November 1, 2014 by Seaside Nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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