shull Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 What happens with Goody & Teale when Tommy eventually does go ? Wouldn't like to lose Jimbo as a player and we may get another 6 months play out of Gary. A new Manager may want his own coaches in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappy coco Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) . Edited November 9, 2014 by scrappy coco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Its now certain its another relegation dogfight season, that is a normal for us. What I would say is that with both Gus and Danny, for all their faults, they could get performances when they really needed them. That competitive quality isn't evident this season, we look a soft touch - we have a combination that we always look like we'll lose at least one goal and its difficult to see where we can get a goal from ourselves. It may well be that a change of manager might still see us relegated, my issue is I've no confidence that TC would be much more effective in division below, inevitably that'd be squad without McGinn and McLean. If he's not the right man for this season or next season, then the decision takes care of itself and should be made now while there's a break in the season to allow for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergie's no1 fan Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 What happens with Goody & Teale when Tommy eventually does go ? Wouldn't like to lose Jimbo as a player and we may get another 6 months play out of Gary. A new Manager may want his own coaches in. If Tommy was to go Teale would be the new manager if we don't have new owners by then. I still think it's hard to judge how poor a manager he is with the injuries we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Its now certain its another relegation dogfight season, that is a normal for us. What I would say is that with both Gus and Danny, for all their faults, they could get performances when they really needed them. That competitive quality isn't evident this season, we look a soft touch - we have a combination that we always look like we'll lose at least one goal and its difficult to see where we can get a goal from ourselves. It may well be that a change of manager might still see us relegated, my issue is I've no confidence that TC would be much more effective in division below, inevitably that'd be squad without McGinn and McLean. If he's not the right man for this season or next season, then the decision takes care of itself and should be made now while there's a break in the season to allow for it. Don't think we will be in the dogfight we will be automatically down unless we change TC now , then we might be in the dogfight at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm sure I could do the same with the EPL and other leagues too. Last season Norwich, Cardiff and Fulham were relegated. Guess what? They all changed manager during the season too. That's a fair point, but it doesn't account for the success that Sunderland, Crystal Palace and Swansea, who all changed manager and then avoided relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissy Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TC will not be sacked.. only way he will leave will be if he walks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2becks Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TC will not be sacked.. only way he will leave will be if he walks! Quick! Someone give him a zimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Apparently , according to TC at the Q&A , we had the Aberdeen game postponed because we were missing the Hawk. We could be looking at a long list of games off now that our ageing talisman is done ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam M Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 The worrying this is that Goodwin and Teale both also have player contracts. If they are demoted when a new manager comes in - it could create a bad situation in the dressing room on day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Thommo is a huge loss. Still if I was sitting in the St Mirren board room I would be calling a meeting first thing Monday morning for a vote on Tommy Craig. At 1pm there would be a press conference thanking Tommy Craig for his services. 4pm Tommohawk would be appointed manager. Wake up big man your playing days are over if there is someone who can lift the team to give us a fighting chance it's you. If we go down we go down no one will point the finger at you on a side you have inherited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray street Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TC will not be sacked.. only way he will leave will be if he walks! Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanarkshire_Bud Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 TC will not be sacked.. only way he will leave will be if he walks! And he would be daft to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Correct If the fans stay away in large numbers Tommy would be forced out the door, Make no mistake on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Zippy Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 An Aberdeen fan that I know warned me that Craig would be an unmitigated disaster (Craig had a similarly disastrous spell as caretaker at Pittodrie). You would have thought the board would have learned from the Coughlin fiasco that fast-tracking an assistant with no proven managerial experience is just a non-starter. Alas not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Part of me feels really sorry for Tommy. He's on a hiding to nothing, the board are to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykey Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 There is clearly a general malaise at the club just now and I just can't see it lifting. It's fair to say the new signings havn't set the heather on fire but it's equally true to say we havn't seen the best of Cheesy, Goodwin, Mclean, McGinn, Wylde, Teale, Naismith or Kelly either, In fact if we had to vote for the POTY now there's a fair chance Thommo could still win it. yesterday was just abject. no fight, no desire, no tactics that I could see and absolutely no chance of scoring. I don't think the BOD will sack TC nor do I think TC will walk. I agree that xmas is the time to review the managers performance like topcat says, however I also think that we are likely to be stranded in 12th place by then, meaning that a new managerv couldn't keep us up, it's not as if he's going to get millions to spend in january. I suppose that some of the posters on here are correct in that if we simply stopped going they might be forced to react but I fear it's the championship for us next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Calder Saint Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 The time to change the manager is NOW.The Board got this appointment badly wrong and now have to face the subject. We have two weeks before the next league match.After Xmas is far two late given thr hectic schedule around that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Time for Tommy to go - quick sticks. 1 point in 21 at home? Ridiculous. It's getting to the point where the fans are going to vote with their feet and I must admit if my choice is golf membership or renewing my ST next year then there is currently a clear leader...it's just not in the slightest bit enjoyable any more. The team is utterly shite, the managers tactics (does he have any?) are woeful and the players spend most of the game hiding. To be honest I sympathise with Tommy as he should never been offered the job in the first place and for that our tight arse board can hang their heads in shame. It was a pathetic decision to appoint him. What are Gilmour and co thinking? Do they fancy our chances in a playoff against Rangers or Hearts? They need to act NOW because if we go down we'll stay there. And let's face it, as it stands we will be going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 "They don't show a lot of fear or anxiety in their play, which tells me they believe in what they are being asked to do." - Get that clueless fool out our club and do it now Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Read his post match comments. Absolute numpty. It's not working Tommy, please just resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I do not feel sorry for Tommy at all. I he had an ounce of decency, he would walk away realising he is not upto it. He's clinging on , irrespective of how bad he is doing , if he won't make the decision, the board should. Edited November 9, 2014 by whydowebother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's not just a management decision now, it's a business decision. If I was not delivering in my job I would be warned and then fired if things did not improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Time for Tommy to go - quick sticks. 1 point in 21 at home? Ridiculous. It's getting to the point where the fans are going to vote with their feet and I must admit if my choice is golf membership or renewing my ST next year then there is currently a clear leader...it's just not in the slightest bit enjoyable any more. The team is utterly shite, the managers tactics (does he have any?) are woeful and the players spend most of the game hiding. To be honest I sympathise with Tommy as he should never been offered the job in the first place and for that our tight arse board can hang their heads in shame. It was a pathetic decision to appoint him. What are Gilmour and co thinking? Do they fancy our chances in a playoff against Rangers or Hearts? They need to act NOW because if we go down we'll stay there. And let's face it, as it stands we will be going down. What play off,if he stays it's rock bottom His interview yesterday says it all His poor me act,injuries and not scoring goals Injuries mostly picked up at training Not scoring goals he signed 3 strikers Just leave please,you ain't up to it and can't change things Your management record says it all and you can't put that down all to bad luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissy Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 If the fans stay away in large numbers Tommy would be forced out the door, Make no mistake on that. I'm not sure I agree... as much as I would like to see it happen we are known for taking too long to take action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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