foxbar_bud Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 How many people were questioning the length of TC's appointment back in may iirc nearly everyone, he was never is danger of being poached by another club lets be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 iirc nearly everyone, he was never is danger of being poached by another club lets be honest The length of the contract specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 The length of the contract specifically? To be honest, I think your splitting hairs, folk couldn't believe he had been appointed full stop. But yes I remember plenty being pretty amazed he managed to get a 2 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 To be honest, I think your splitting hairs, folk couldn't believe he had been appointed full stop. But yes I remember plenty being pretty amazed he managed to get a 2 year deal No the length of the contract which is what you're challenging was my point, give me some examples but I don't recall it being the main issue. I've checked this thread and the length of the contract isn't mentioned until post#63 He shouldn't have been given a 2 year deal in the first place Plenty hindsight going on....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenston saint Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 I would give it to January to see if he can bring people in. The board are unlikely to move before then. Good first post.You are going to be a welcome addition to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyHolly9 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm obviously in a minority of one at this point in time but I think 2 years (or maybe one a one year rolling deal) is the right amount of time to offer a new manager. The problem is not the length of the contract but that TC has clearly turned out to be the wrong appointment, sadly we are not a club with much/any room for error on this matter in a 12 team top flight. How many people were questioning the length of TC's appointment back in May? ******************** PS - Let me add I see no reason for TC to resign and not receive the full terms due in his contract. PPS - Is their a relegation clause that would allow us to sack him in these circumstances? Painful to swallow but if there was & I was on the BoD that would be my choice. Had I known it was a 2 year deal I would question why an untried manager got such a grand term. Untried is maybe a bit flattering as I suppose he had a stint at this game before and we all know that record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's unbelievable. Pixie Lott gets voted off Strictly this weekend but wee useless Craig is still our manager. Just unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It's unbelievable. Pixie Lott gets voted off Strictly this weekend but wee useless Craig is still our manager. Just unbelievable. What about Edwina he's even lasted longer then her , she was kicked out last night maybe we can set up a phone line and vote him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Had I known it was a 2 year deal I would question why an untried manager got such a grand term. Untried is maybe a bit flattering as I suppose he had a stint at this game before and we all know that record. Clearly reported at the time - quote from May 13 Senior players Gary Teale and Jim Goodwin will make up his backroom team at St Mirren, with the trio all agreeing two-year contracts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402249 As I said I questioned the length of the contacts - GT's in particular before this article was even published but I don't remember the length of contracts being an issue for the majority back in May Edited December 7, 2014 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPar72 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Clearly reported at the time - quote from May 13 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27402249 As I said I questioned the length of the contacts - GT's in particular before this article was even published but I don't remember the length of contracts being an issue for the majority back in May Most of us were too busy questioning why Tommy was given the job full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Do we really need another poll. Just curious. According to Oaksoft its just a vocal minority !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Most of us were too busy questioning why Tommy was given the job full stop. Yeah plenty were, myself included, all I'm saying is that the specific issue of the length of the contract which just about everyone now agrees was a "mistake" was rarely mentioned back in May - I've skimmed through the thread and can only see one other poster Murray7 who mentions it. I'll repeat myself this is an "mistake" that most people are focussing on in hindsight. Edited December 7, 2014 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPar72 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yeah plenty were, myself included, all I'm saying is that the specific issue of the length of the contract which just about everyone now agrees was a "mistake" was rarely mentioned back in May - I've skimmed through the thread and can only see one other poster Murray7 who mentions it. I'll repeat myself this is an "mistake" that most people are focussing on in hindsight. This appointment was always going to be a disaster, like you said most of us saw it coming. The only reason the length of the contract is now being discussed by some, is because it seems to be the only thing holding back the BOD from doing what they should, and the fact Tommy said he won't walk for 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 It would help if you explained how you know these claims as fact. In any event, despite around 1300 fans signing DD commitments, there is clearly so many fans who are against fan ownership that I despair. There are no well intentioned big investors out there, only guys who want to take from football. So if we are against fan ownership we might as well give up now. What exactly are you hoping for? Definetly for 'FAN OWNERSHIP' but dead against the 'FANBOY OWNERSHIP' and thats what 10000 howls was all about! Where is Dicky these days, i thought he declared he had 'Saintmirreniatis'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Motherwell'a next 2 fixtures are against county and then us, they will be looking to bring in a new gaffer this week to give them a lift for these games.... Will we do the same or will we leave it until it's too late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Motherwell'a next 2 fixtures are against county and then us, they will be looking to bring in a new gaffer this week to give them a lift for these games.... Will we do the same or will we leave it until it's too late? We will leave it till next may when relegated to league 1 which will be 18 months too late! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 We will leave it till next may when relegated to league 1 which will be 18 months too late! Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 We will leave it till next may when relegated to league 1 which will be 18 months too late! Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sounds about right. Calm down, surely to God even the BOD can see that it's all over and every day that they delay the more expensive it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Calm down, surely to God even the BOD can see that it's all over and every day that they delay the more expensive it gets. I'm not sure they can see its all over, they are going to sit tight still and hope we can still turn it around. Have a really bad feeling that we are stuck with TC for a while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad saint 2 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) ground hog day comes round every monday guess what the clown will still be in a job come tuesday samo samo the bod clueless, pot less and brainless. there skint cant pay him off Edited December 7, 2014 by mad saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Plenty of chance to sit down with TC tomorrow as the first team are away to Manchester for Xmas night out. Hopefully they come back up the M6 to a new manager. Surely you must have an inclination as to whether sacking is likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareybob Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 The players do not deserve a Christmas night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Yeah plenty were, myself included, all I'm saying is that the specific issue of the length of the contract which just about everyone now agrees was a "mistake" was rarely mentioned back in May - I've skimmed through the thread and can only see one other poster Murray7 who mentions it. I'll repeat myself this is an "mistake" that most people are focussing on in hindsight. Why would it be needed to question the length of a contract when questioning giving the contract itself? The number of years is incidental as it was deemed a disaster to give ANY contract by many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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