billymehmet1 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My. Son asking me why Celtic are the only team not wearing a poppy. Every team in uk football have a poppy on there shirt except Celtic surely the authorities must take done action. I can understand individual players not wearing Poppy's but football clubs have a duty to carry. Out What would happen if certain clubs didn't take part in the kick it out campaign. Would that be ok naw. Sick of them but it's a bad day when my child us asking why they don't wear a poppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 You can blame that on their fans , they all think they are Irish most of them have never been in the place the only connection being they support the Green Vermin , what about the ones who have been or have family or friends in the armed forces , Bring shame on Scotland once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I would not give them or the other evil sister any sort of thread in general discussion. We have far more important things going on at Saints like appointing a new manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think it's a poor decision by them, but I don't see what the authorities can do about it. It's not as though it's a requirement within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Is the poppy not representative of a specific charity? Rather than a specific symbol of remembrance day. Edited November 9, 2014 by dave.j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) acne day. I think you're spot on.......... Edited November 9, 2014 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think you're spot on.......... Baboom tsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not sure what action you want to have taken, a football club doesn't need to take part in displaying the poppy if they don't want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 It's Celtic's choice not to have a poppy on their shirts and a they are well within their rights to decide whether they do or not,just like we have a choice,personally I've never purchased one and never would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Is the poppy not representative of a specific charity? Rather than a specific symbol of remembrance day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/remembrance/how/poppy.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/remembrance/how/poppy.shtml So both? To raise money for the British a Legion. Followed this link on the page you provided... http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/get-involved/poppy-appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I think people criticising Celtic FC are falling into a trap. Lets face it the soldiers who lost their lives in WWW2 especially were fighting to preserve the kind of freedoms in UK society that allows individuals and organisations the right to hold their own opinion. Anyone trying to brow beat others into wearing a poppy are doing almost as much a disservice to the servicemen we remember as those arseholes amongst the Celtic support who chose to sing and shout abuse rather than respecting other people's right to remembrance. I read James McCleans letter to the Wigan fans as he explained the reasons why he refused to wear a poppy. I guess many others would have done too and it was hard really to castigate him for his opinion. He's from Derry, the scene of Sunday Bloody Sunday. I can understand why some from there might feel that the fact that we remember all fallen servicemen and not just the ones who died in the first and second world wars may seem distasteful to them. McCleans opinion is not one I share, but I respect his right to hold a different opinion from me, and to his credit he stood silently and respected the two minute silence prior to Wigans match yesterday afternoon too. Where Celtic have scored an own goal in my opinion is once again in the behaviour of their fans. It would be good if either the authorities or Celtic FC themselves could come out and make a statement about their lack of respect for the opinion of others but I doubt that will happen while fans of other clubs fail to respect Celtic FC's right to hold a differing opinion. Edited November 9, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 WOW! Dicko in reasonably sensible post shocker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think people criticising Celtic FC are falling into a trap. Lets face it the soldiers who lost their lives in WWW2 especially were fighting to preserve the kind of freedoms in UK society that allows individuals and organisations the right to hold their own opinion. Anyone trying to brow beat others into wearing a poppy are doing almost as much a disservice to the servicemen we remember as those arseholes amongst the Celtic support who chose to sing and shout abuse rather than respecting other people's right to remembrance. I read James McCleans letter to the Wigan fans as he explained the reasons why he refused to wear a poppy. I guess many others would have done too and it was hard really to castigate him for his opinion. He's from Derry, the scene of Sunday Bloody Sunday. I can understand why some from there might feel that the fact that we remember all fallen servicemen and not just the ones who died in the first and second world wars may seem distasteful to them. McCleans opinion is not one I share, but I respect his right to hold a different opinion from me, and to his credit he stood silently and respected the two minute silence prior to Wigans match yesterday afternoon too. Where Celtic have scored an own goal in my opinion is once again in the behaviour of their fans. It would be good if either the authorities or Celtic FC themselves could come out and make a statement about their lack of respect for the opinion of others but I doubt that will happen while fans of other clubs fail to respect Celtic FC's right to hold a differing opinion. Its all Al-iqsammin's fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltcoatsbuddie Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 not wearing poppys then celebrating like they had won the champions league final after beating Aberdeen is enough proof this club lacks class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankin_panda Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 not wearing poppys then celebrating like they had won the champions league final after beating Aberdeen is enough proof this club lacks class The 'managers' comments were also pretty classless afterwards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 What about the innocent people murdered by the British Army do we do anything for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) What about the innocent people murdered by the British Army do we do anything for them?Errrrr... why not remember them with respect during the 2 minutes silence? Surely it can be personalised. That's the beauty of silence.I've been to many a funeral where a minister has prayed and asked people to recall their own personal memories in silence... Aside from one phone ring tone... interestingly enough Depeche Mode and Just Can't get Enough on a Celtic fans phone... I have never heard it abused or disrupted... not even by atheists. Likewise... at humanitarian funerals... even the Christians have been able to respectfully observe a silence. Edited November 10, 2014 by BuddieinEK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I agree but this thread is asking why Celtic didn't have a poppy on their strips. I wouldn't wear a poppy and Celtic exercised their rights to do likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Things are improving. A few short years ago the poppy fascists in an act of unmitigated irony would have filled 8 pages with their bleating about this nonsense. WW1 was 100 years ago and WW2 started 75 years ago. There's barely a veteran alive now from either campaign. It's about time we stopped all this nonsense. It would be at least understandable if we had shown as a nation that we had learned from these wars. Our capers in Iraq, the Falklands and Afghanistan show we've learned nothing. Remebrance Day has been hijacked by veterans and families of veterans from other less worthy conflicts and that is what has killed it for me. All this Military wives and Help a Hero guff has basically stripped the entire thing of its dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I agree but this thread is asking why Celtic didn't have a poppy on their strips. I wouldn't wear a poppy and Celtic exercised their rights to do likewise The poppy debate is a distraction and a sideshow. As I've said if someone doesn't want to wear a poppy - whether it's an individual or as in this case a football club - then I respect their right not to do so. Where the anger should be directed is at the handful of Celtic supporters at the Aberdeen match who failed to respect the rights of others to remember in silence, and at the Aberdeen fan who was so stupid that he responded, loudly, with sectarian shouts through the minutes silence. The BBC have reported that the police have arrested the individuals concerned and I do hope they are appropriately punished in the courts and by the clubs they support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I agree but this thread is asking why Celtic didn't have a poppy on their strips. I wouldn't wear a poppy and Celtic exercised their rights to do likewise Was that the wish of every individual player or was that imposed to appease the fans who gave them a hard time when they last had a poppy on their shirts? I'm in favour of personal choice... is Celtic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Was that the wish of every individual player or was that imposed to appease the fans who gave them a hard time when they last had a poppy on their shirts? I'm in favour of personal choice... is Celtic? BinEK. the Celtic manager is clearly seen wearing a poppy at the match yesterday. I suppose if any of the players felt strongly about it they could have fashioned some safe way to attach a poppy to their kit, even if it was to print off a sticker the night before and to attach it to their kit. If Celtic took a business decision not to go to the expense of having a poppy embroidered onto their kit surely it's their right to choose to do so. As I said last night the soldiers we are supposed to be remembering believed they were fighting to preserve our freedom. This attempt to bully those who choose not to wear a poppy to comply is just as disrespectful to the memory of those soldiers as it is to sing through a one minute silence IMO. Edited November 10, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 The BBC have reported that the police have arrested the individuals concerned and I do hope they are appropriately punished in the courts and by the clubs they support And charged with what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) And charged with what? "Minor Disturbances" whatever that means. I'd imagine it would be a Breach Of The Peace offence. I can't find the article on the BBC website despite it being on the news earlier - but the Daily Record is carrying the story. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-supporters-arrested-after-poppy-4603311 Press and Journal https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/396630/celtic-fans-arrested-for-jeering-through-remembrance-sunday-silence/ Edited November 10, 2014 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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