dani bongo Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 If you keep Alistair Carmichael you might have a deal That cnut can stay in Orkney where he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Nae deal then dani :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 They've started holding mass rallies and now publishing a newspaper with a "nationalist" viewpoint. Nuremberg and Der Stürmer for the 21st Century? Dickson liked this everybody! Who'd have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 If you keep Alistair Carmichael you might have a deal Aye that cunto , had a party conference in Dunfermline on Saturday. . Apparently , the phonebox that was hosting them , was packed. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Bundy Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) No me Just like You Shull, Even, Ed has stopped buying the Paisley Daily Express, After they increased the cost by 25% To 50p ! Edited November 25, 2014 by Bud Bundy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Herald enjoyed an increase of 111% on its sales around the time of the Referendum and now 40% increase compared to year on year , so certainly not dwindling . . As for "the doomed Nationalist bandwagon" , I think you would think the other side lost , looking at the parties that supported the Union . Labour have virtually imploded and the Unionist party are having their wee defections . Also prior to the referendum , the SNP had a membership of 25k , as of last weekend , it is now over 92,000 which gives them the 3rd biggest membership in the UK , aye the UK not just Scotland. . Nae wobbly wheels up here bluto , democracy is alive and well in Scotland . Even with the combined weight of the UK establishment and 20 odd newspapers opposing it , they still polled 45% for Yes. . There were two meetings of independence groups on Saturday by the river Clyde , 1 had 3k attendance and the other had 12,000 . . wurs the wobbly wheel. . The wobbly wheels were always under the SNP's daft "Nationalist but keep the monarchy and the GBP" etc's fumble towards Independence.I can see - always have done - the reasons to seek separation and power over one's own destiny, and I'd happily ally myself to the crowd at the the 3k meeting, ( some of whom were from London, I notice). The main point I was making is that the opportunistic Herald exploited an opportunity to arrest an unstoppable fall. Newspapers are in sharp decline but if Nationalists think a Nationalist paper is pure dead brilliant then I'm not surprised. They have experience in dealing with disappointment. As for the 12000 crowd...? I don't suppose a free concert played any part in people's reasons to attend? : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The wobbly wheels were always under the SNP's daft "Nationalist but keep the monarchy and the GBP" etc's fumble towards Independence. I can see - always have done - the reasons to seek separation and power over one's own destiny, and I'd happily ally myself to the crowd at the the 3k meeting, ( some of whom were from London, I notice). The main point I was making is that the opportunistic Herald exploited an opportunity to arrest an unstoppable fall. Newspapers are in sharp decline but if Nationalists think a Nationalist paper is pure dead brilliant then I'm not surprised. They have experience in dealing with disappointment. As for the 12000 crowd...? I don't suppose a free concert played any part in people's reasons to attend? : I think the reasons for keeping the monarchy and the GBP , were discussed at length before -in a nutshell , interim measures. . TBF , the 3k in the other building actually amounted to 7k spread over 3 buildings , attending the RIC conference . Obviously the Herald enjoyed a boost from backing independence (the only newspaper to do so , with 2 newspapers remaining neutral) ,so I suppose the appetite for a Nationalist paper comes from people being sick and tired of reading Unionist propaganda, lies and deceit . . Disappointment perhaps but I believe Salmond knew that , on this occasion , that being forced to take the 3rd option off the table that the vote was unlikely to get the desired percentage. However , he got the Scottish public voting again and also introduced a whole new generation to it also . One in 50 Scots are now members of the SNP and nearly 75% of Scots want another referendum. . so the wobbly wheel has been balanced and is running true again. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyS Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Whilst I haven't bought a copy yet it must be seen as an opportunity to balance the news reporting As a friend in France said on the 19th 'How can it be that only 1 of 37 newspapers represents 45% of a population?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Was it not just the Sunday Herald that come out for a yes vote? The Herald didnt Edited November 25, 2014 by TPAFKATS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Was it not just the Sunday Herald that come out for abyss vote? The Herald didn't Yes the editor of the Sunday Herald was asked to provide a daily version of an independence supporting paper. . Indeed , the other "newspapers" can just vanish now. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Whilst I haven't bought a copy yet it must be seen as an opportunity to balance the news reporting As a friend in France said on the 19th 'How can it be that only 1 of 37 newspapers represents 45% of a population?' What do you think we should do about that? Force newspapers into supporting independence to redress the balance? And it wasn't 45% of the population either... It wasn't even 45% of those who voted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'll stick with the Daily Mail. Littlejohn tomorrow. He's one of the best columnists. Aye right up there with Willie Column Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Was it not just the Sunday Herald that come out for abyss vote? The Herald didnt I'm reasonably sure someone pointed that out in a reply to bluto a couple of days ago. Mind you, maybe it was too subtle for on here....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 What do you think we should do about that? Force newspapers into supporting independence to redress the balance? And it wasn't 45% of the population either... It wasn't even 45% of those who voted! The point is that the British have sent advisors to other countries (ex-colonies for instance) to tell them that their democratic processes are not free and fair because their media is biased . . The point of it is that , it wasn't just the media either , the full weight of the British establishment was brought to bear against the independence movement . . They wont get away with it the next time. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Bought it for the first time today to read on the train to Preston, dreadful newspaper with very little in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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