Spam_Valley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Linesman looks fairly well up to play, but still looks offside to me. Best benchmark we can get: stm kil.jpg (Granted the screenshot is a fraction of a second late) Tess is clearly playing him onside there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1420201458_192828.jpgThis picture shows the blatant penalty missed by that f**king clown Collum and his halfwit of an assistant ref. It clearly shows Kelly's shirt being pulled in a much more forceful manner than McAusland on McGennis. Thats McAusland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) The clearest penalty in the 90 minutes, and the one not awarded. Can't remember the score at the time, but maybe he'd have given it if it had been 2-0 to Killie and we were in the 95th minute. Don't care how paranoid this might sound, but he definitely seems to give the benefit of the doubt to the opposition whenever it actually matters. I've just noticed that this is a different incident to the one that I witnessed in the first half, where Kelly was clearly pulled back as he went to try and get onto the end of a cross ball. It was even more blatant than the incident in that photo and Kelly was protesting pretty vociferously at the time. Edited January 2, 2015 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Spangle!Hee hee Naw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Tess is clearly playing him onside there? Thats McAusland. I was going to commend you regarding your eyesight on spotting it was McAusland, then I noticed your first post regarding the offside photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) He's in line with Tess (and the assistant) Plus, the photo is taken after the ball was played. So not exactly a great example of the offside/onside argument. Edited to add; The line on the photo isn't straight and it's not in line with the last defender. How can you make a definitive decision based on that? My opinion is that Tess plays him well onside. Edited January 2, 2015 by Spam_Valley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 We'll be in trouble for this one... punching a referee on the chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 We'll be in trouble for this one... punching a referee on the chin. photo.jpg Exactly where in that photo do you see a referee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's in line with Tess (and the assistant) Plus, the photo is taken after the ball was played. So not exactly a great example of the offside/onside argument. Edited to add; The line on the photo isn't straight and it's not in line with the last defender. How can you make a definitive decision based on that? My opinion is that Tess plays him well onside. I thought Tess played him onside at the game, and I was sitting in the main stand pretty much in line with it. It's closer than people are making out, can't say for sure what the right call should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 McLean - Collum - St Mirren - previous.... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-referee-willie-collum-saw-4467344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie Bear Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's in line with Tess (and the assistant) Plus, the photo is taken after the ball was played. So not exactly a great example of the offside/onside argument. Edited to add; The line on the photo isn't straight and it's not in line with the last defender. How can you make a definitive decision based on that? My opinion is that Tess plays him well onside. I'm not at home do cant post today but have the frame by frame software and an accurate line. I'm a grumpy git and too quick to criticise often but what these show is a clear offside and if anyone can find me a frame where Mallen makes contact then you're a better man than me. Every frame of highlights full speed and slow mo close angle dont show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I spy summat beginning with S. Something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm not at home do cant post today but have the frame by frame software and an accurate line. I'm a grumpy git and too quick to criticise often but what these show is a clear offside and if anyone can find me a frame where Mallen makes contact then you're a better man than me. Every frame of highlights full speed and slow mo close angle dont show it. Looking forwarded to seeing your post when you're home. He's onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Looking forwarded to seeing your post when you're home. He's onside. Its very close but if you stop the vid at 3.23, he defo looks off. Take your reference from the relative positions compared to the centre circle. Its very close & i can understand it being allowed to go on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappy coco Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Tess is clearly playing him onside there? No chance, the Killie player is clearly offside, check out the players shadows through the yellow line.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Sad that so many are distracted by the Collum debacle. What was most worrying yesterday apart from the insipid overall performance was the apparent disharmony on the pitch. As others have pointed out, McLean seemed to start with a ne'erday hangover. He was sulking and moaning at his team mates from the kick-off. When this negativity is directed at some of the younger players such as McLear it is totally unacceptable. Eventually the rattle was thrown out of the pram and he was red carded. What has happened behind the scenes since the Dens result? It is quite a while since we have not been outplayed in midfield and that used to be our strong point. Our weaknesses are spreading week by week and whilst frustration is an understandable reaction in our current position it does not help overall team morale when key players like McLean start in such a negative frame of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 FFS, never mind the referee, offsides or whatever. It's boring. St Mirren are f**king shite and we need a major clearout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) No excuse for such an insipid performance by us yesterday, but Willie Collum managed to get every game changing decision wrong. He awarded Killmarnock two penalties when Josh Magennis clearly dived on both occasions. He somehow managed to miss the same lump of wood taking another blatant dive directly in front of W1 west stand side. In any other business this man would be held accountable for his sheer lack of ability to properly carry out his duty as a professional referee. Edited January 2, 2015 by class of 76-77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 No excuse for such an insipid performance by us yesterday, but Willie Collum managed to get every game changing decision wrong. He awarded Killmarnock two penalties when Josh Magennis clearly dived on both occasions. He somehow managed to miss the same lump of wood taking another blatant dive directly in front of W1 west stand side. In any other business this man would be held accountable for his sheer lack of ability to properly carry out his duty as a professional referee. Mallen, McGinn, Mclear and Mclean were given no protection what so ever by the ref and Killie were allowed to foul these players repeatedly, often with no foul even given. It's not the whole story, but it had an impact on the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Mallen, McGinn, Mclear and Mclean were given no protection what so ever by the ref and Killie were allowed to foul these players repeatedly, often with no foul even given. It's not the whole story, but it had an impact on the game It's no longer acceptable in my view for three officials to make such glaring mistakes and not be held accountable. Both Kilmarnock penalties were blatant dives by Magennis. There is no debating it, the guy cheated and 3 officials failed to see this. I find that unbelievable and worrying that these officials are supposed to be the best Scottish football has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Surely a four match ban for "deceiving the officials" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Does anybody have any idea why collum is involved in so many of our matches we've played about 18 matches collum must have been in charge fir at least 4 or 5 matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 We made poor decisions in the summer transfer wise and are now paying the price - we have no recognised forward line and Samson didn't even have a save to make yesterday. Yes referee was pish poor but I'm afraid we were as well and yet again a mediocre side leaves with 3 points ........ granted this time with more than a little help from that arsehole Collum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 We made poor decisions in the summer transfer wise and are now paying the price - we have no recognised forward line and Samson didn't even have a save to make yesterday. Yes referee was pish poor but I'm afraid we were as well and yet again a mediocre side leaves with 3 points ........ granted this time with more than a little help from that arsehole Collum Samson did have one save to make aside from the penalty which he fluffed. Unfortunately it was from a defender's boot! I will still hold fire in condemning all our new forwards as, in Ball's case, it was hard to play central in Craig's side. Maybe if he knew the ball was likely to arrive in the box he would be more inclined to stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luther G. Presley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 So when is the compliance officer looking at some of the incidents in this game, or do they just pick and choose these decisions. That's 2 games recently we've had a lot of decisions go against us, but as these things even out over the season we are due quite a few in our favour, though I won't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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