norrie82 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) If bid is 175k and it's accepted then I would be very surprised and extremely disappointed. What's the point of ralston if you sell for peanuts. I understand he is out of contract in one year but for goodness sake 175k. I imagine alot of fans will be disgusted at this when they see simelar teams getting more cash for the talent they rear. It makes me question the point of us and buying season books when the best young talent are sold for absolutely nowt. 175 k is utter crap Edited May 14, 2017 by norrie82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 So someone said a 200k bid was going around, Chico says nothing has been decided, Sky says a 300k bid has been struck, and the BBC say a 175k deal is happening. Aye, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 minute ago, norrie82 said: If bid is 175k and it's accepted then I would be very surprised and extremely disappointed. What's the point of ralston if you sell for peanuts. I understand he is out of contract in one year but for goodness sake 175k. I imagine alot of fans will be disgusted at this when they see simelar teams getting more cash for the talent they rear. It makes me question the point if us and buying season books when the best young talent are sold for absolutely nowt. 175 k is utter crap Feck me! Give it another hour and we'll be paying THEM for the lad to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Feck me! Give it another hour and we'll be paying THEM for the lad to go! Not long ago we were paying players to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Dalrybud said: Thought I saw a tweet from Sky Sports saying that we'd accepted 300k. Still short of an acceptable valuation but again, depends on the add ons. MALLAN TALKS FOR BARNSLEY Barnsley have been given permission to speak to St Mirren midfielder Stevie Mallan, after the clubs agreed a fee of around £300,000 plus potential add-ons, according to Sky sources. 21 year old Mallan scored 11 goals for St Mirren this season, helping to keep the club in the Scottish Championship. He made his debut for St Mirren in November 2014 and has played 112 times, scoring 29 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 300k plus additions, that will be so many first team games will activate additional money then if he moves on we get a percentage of any fee paid. The deal may be a lot better than many think. It also let's Jack Ross plan for the season early rather than later with funds we did not have. Half full glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonhamer Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Thorizaar said: All players have zero value at all until an offer is made. If Barnsley offered £200k and there are no other offers, then £200k is his value. I think you are confusing "value" and "cost". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car-d bud Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Yflab said: None of us know the details of Stevie Mallans contract which was probably agreed before Fitzpatrick and Scott took over. My guess is that Barnsley made a bid that triggered a release clause that allowed them permission to speak to him. Agents play a huge part in these contract negotiations to protect their asset. Is Stevies agent not his dad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 To balance the books we need to sell a young player EVERY year, the only way we can stop this is to get an extra 1000 people a week into the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 22 hours ago, portmahomack saint said: Wouldn't surprise me if the 200k steal was wrote into his contract, our old board have previous in this department, they were never slow in trying to make a quick buck... Please fill us all in on how the old board profited from selling players on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, doonhamer said: I think you are confusing "value" and "cost". And what, exactly, is his, or anyone's, value? Value is purely subjective and is down to what another team feel a player is worth or they can afford IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 If Mallan isn't signing a new contract then it makes sense to sell him before the transfer window shuts in August rather than lose him for nothing in a year or sell him for peanuts in January. However, that doesn't mean we have to accept what seems to be the first offer that comes along after the season is finished when there's still three and a half months to go until the window shuts. We should only be accepting it if it's ridiculously high, which doesn't seem to be the case. Far better to drag it out a bit and either get Barnsley to up their offer or get a few other clubs involved. Makes sod all difference if he goes now, in June or July. Mallan signed his contract after a handful of first team appearances more than two years ago so I'd be surprised if there's any sort of release clause. The season is only just finished and Ross will know Mallan is going so letting him go now hardly changes how he prepares the squad for next season. Not that excited about add-ons and the like - good if he gets sold on as Snodgrass, McCarthy etc have been but no so good if he ends up back here in a year or so like Allan or Fyvie. Everyone is excited about the sell-on fee for McGinn but if he doesn't go this summer chances are we'll get sod all there. Mallan has earned a move and without him we would have been relegated. However, we should be looking for a lot more up front than is being mentioned. Not only has he got a couple of years' experience under his belt, he was also a cracking player in the Premiership in a shite team so he is proven in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, doonhamer said: For a start they can tell chancers like Barnsley where to stick such a derisory offer for the most talented player in the Scottish Championship. I'd be gutted if Barnsley are in for Stephen McGinn as well... or Lewis Morgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, bud77 said: No one on here knows the details of Hamilton's deals or how much cash they got up front. It could very well be that they only got a few hundred thousand and the add ons made this up to a potential million pound deal and Hamilton released details saying the players had been sold for loadsamoney. Absolutely hitting the nail on the head there. The phrase "a deal worth £xxx,xxx,xxx" only means that is what it's reckoned to be worth, not actually what the selling club get, most of them will never disclose the exact amount or terms of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal89 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 If Mallan isn't signing a new contract then it makes sense to sell him before the transfer window shuts in August rather than lose him for nothing in a year or sell him for peanuts in January. However, that doesn't mean we have to accept what seems to be the first offer that comes along after the season is finished when there's still three and a half months to go until the window shuts. We should only be accepting it if it's ridiculously high, which doesn't seem to be the case. Far better to drag it out a bit and either get Barnsley to up their offer or get a few other clubs involved. Makes sod all difference if he goes now, in June or July. Mallan signed his contract after a handful of first team appearances more than two years ago so I'd be surprised if there's any sort of release clause. The season is only just finished and Ross will know Mallan is going so letting him go now hardly changes how he prepares the squad for next season. Not that excited about add-ons and the like - good if he gets sold on as Snodgrass, McCarthy etc have been but no so good if he ends up back here in a year or so like Allan or Fyvie. Everyone is excited about the sell-on fee for McGinn but if he doesn't go this summer chances are we'll get sod all there. Mallan has earned a move and without him we would have been relegated. However, we should be looking for a lot more up front than is being mentioned. Not only has he got a couple of years' experience under his belt, he was also a cracking player in the Premiership in a shite team so he is proven in Scotland. I don't necessarily agree that it does nt matter when we sell him. IMHO the earlier the better that way JR knows exactly what his budget for the coming season is, and allows us to get our business done early.Apart from anything else if other teams are interested, they will know they need to act now or move on to other targets. It's all about opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Could this be one of St Mirren's most profitable seasons? Must be some cash generated this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 We also have to be aware that if we were getting loads of money for our players then other clubs know this and then we are made to pay over the odds for anyone we might be in for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, norrie82 said: What's the point of ralston if you sell for peanuts. To help source and bring through a chunk of the first team by spotting and nurturing local talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, elvis said: We also have to be aware that if we were getting loads of money for our players then other clubs know this and then we are made to pay over the odds for anyone we might be in for . Phew - that's a relief. For a daft moment I just couldn't see the downside of big transfer fees coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, antrin said: Phew - that's a relief. For a daft moment I just couldn't see the downside of big transfer fees coming in. Always f**king one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, elvis said: Always f**king one. Then you should try troilism if that one's unsatisfying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/stevie-mallan.255947/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Regarding the price, if Mallan played all season in the form he displayed in the last dozen games then £500k would be a steal. If he played all season in the form he showed from July to January then £50k would be a good bit of business for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, elvis said: Always f**king one. Of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 From Barnsley Forum The bloke who received the email now saying the deal isn't as cut and dry as it seems, not even at the medical stage yet. Is our incompetence going to let us down yet again? Like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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