waldorf34 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Double smokescreen,not English,not Argentine,local maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Double smokescreen,not English,not Argentine,local maybe? I wondered about that in an earlier post. Seems a bit far-fetched, so probably on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 FFS , it is Goucho not Groucho. . my fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Double smokescreen,not English,not Argentine,local maybe? Hmmm , Perhaps some local businessman , supporter of the team , someone who talks mince & would like a steak in the business. C`mon Gav , own up !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota7 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 There definitely seems something on the go but what is happening is a mystery. I don't doubt Div would have put something out unless certain but there are too many conflicting stories coming out. I suppose we will know more this week. The board would have to let shareholders know etc. I e way or another I hope something is sorted soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmc83 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 This Pini guy , does anyone know if one of the guys with him when he looked at the set up, was his son or step son ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Not many articles in English about Pini, but this one doesn't sound great. What a shit set up his Chilean team have. http://clsportsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/the-b-ghost-strikes-again.html?m=1 Edited January 12, 2015 by JM1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Foreign owners. Well that's always worked well in Scottish football Despite that I have huge concerns with any new owners no matter if they are from Paisley or not. I'd want them to answer these Qs- Why Saints? What you want to achieve? What if it goes up a certain creek? And how on earth are you going to get £1.5m back when our board has spent years trying to sell it and it looks like we could be relegated? Obviously the history with foreign ownership is poor so I have concerns these guys are the Angelo Massone, Claude Anelka et al. Dundee did this 'foreign stars and sell them on' and bar Speroni and Caniggia who sold for about £1.5m couldn't shift many others despite them being decent. It ended in tears with admins and £13m of debt. Dundee United are however having a field day with a youth system bringing through kids like Gould, Goodwillie, Russell, Robertson etc. Whilst we've been crying out for a change in the boardroom, I hope this is the right move. I hope due diligence has been done and I hope it isn't just the board being tired at the situation and bailing as the stuff people are posting about Chile etc. isn't all positive. We suffered badly in the 90s when our debt caught up with us and endless clubs spent too much. They worked hard to get us out of a huge mess and deserve credit for that. When the rest of Scottish football is hitting the straight and narrow now would be annoying for us to go the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halleluiah Man Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Looked tonight for info. Might be worth searching Ricardo Luis Pini, seems interesting character, but difficult picking through the articles, seems like his brother is also a lawyer/attorney but I couldn't pick up much else. I guess if any buds fluent in Spanish are able to shed some light. Main things I saw were related to a club in Chile, Rangers de Talca. A company called Piduco SADP bought club. Guillermo Almada, the guy touted as manager worth a look as does Club Athletico River Plate of Montevideo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2905948/St-Mirren-sale-close-Argentinian-investors-close-1-5m-deal.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmac Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ah well, 288 posts about nothing, no change their then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ah well, 288 posts about nothing, no change their then. Makes for a busy forum. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 ImageUploadedByBlack & White Army1421021662.071060.jpg Gonnae turn it to page 77 , column 3 please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 This is a bad dream. There is no way this can be true ( f*cking please ) Mr Gilmour will come out this week and tell us it's aw a lot of shite and the present Board are staying in place. Then they will find a way to pass ( sell) St Mirren Football Club to the Fans. THEY WIDNAE SELL TO NON ST MIRREN SUPPORTERS wid they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 This is a bad dream. There is no way this can be true ( f*cking please ) Mr Gilmour will come out this week and tell us it's aw a lot of shite and the present Board are staying in place. Then they will find a way to pass ( sell) St Mirren Football Club to the Fans. THEY WIDNAE SELL TO NON ST MIRREN SUPPORTERS wid they ? He's still away in South Africa is he not? 6 weeks somebody said, at a crucial time when the Chairman should be around unless something is afoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) This is a bad dream. There is no way this can be true ( f*cking please ) Mr Gilmour will come out this week and tell us it's aw a lot of shite and the present Board are staying in place. Then they will find a way to pass ( sell) St Mirren Football Club to the Fans. THEY WIDNAE SELL TO NON ST MIRREN SUPPORTERS wid they ? The answer to your wee question has to be 'Aye, they wid'. They've been patient but eventually anybody would tire of waiting for the ideal owner. If he or she even exists. I can't see a fan ownership ever coming to pass unless someone or some organisation puts in big dough at the front end. Say £1M. Fans could then via SMiSA or whoever could possibly come up with the balance over a period of years but where would working capital come from? Being able to buy the club is simply the first step along a very expensive road. Edited January 12, 2015 by RickMcD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 He's still away in South Africa is he not? 6 weeks somebody said, at a crucial time when the Chairman should be around unless something is afoot. SGG is welcome to post on here to keep us up to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The answer to your wee question has to be 'Aye, they wid'. They've been patient but eventually anybody would tire of waiting for the ideal owner. If he or she even exists. I can't see a fan ownership ever coming to pass unless someone or some organisation puts in big dough at the front end. Say £1M. Fans could then via SMiSA or whoever could possibly come up with the balance over a period of years but where would working capital come from? Being able to but the club is simply the first step along a very expensive road. Working capital comes from the usual places. Season Tickets, Advertising, Sponsorship, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Working capital comes from the usual places. Season Tickets, Advertising, Sponsorship, etc. I know it does, Shull, but on Day1 of a fans' ownership I can't see a significant change unless there is cash to splash. Might not need to be a huge amount but I think it would be needed. We all want the club to survive. That's our priority but a lot of us don't want us becoming an also-ran every year in the 2nd.or 3rd.division or whatever the f**k they call them nowadays. Season ticket Sales, advertising and sponsorship are more easily obtained in the top tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 This is a bad dream. There is no way this can be true ( f*cking please ) Mr Gilmour will come out this week and tell us it's aw a lot of shite and the present Board are staying in place. Then they will find a way to pass ( sell) St Mirren Football Club to the Fans. THEY WIDNAE SELL TO NON ST MIRREN SUPPORTERS wid they ? We have had 5 years to do that and all we do is fight and bicker among ourselves They want out and they want their money Truth be told don't blame them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie-dee Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 If all this comes into effect then I would like to thank Mr Gilmour and the other members of the board for all the work they have put into Saint Mirren F.C. and wish them all the best for the future. New Times ahead for oor wee team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Banjos Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) I would ask the board 2 questions: 1. If this offer had come in a week after the club went up for sale in 2009 would you have accepted it? 2. If this offer came in now, but we were 7th in the league and Tommy Craig was still manager would you have accepted it? If they can honestly answer "yes" to both then fair enough.... If they can't then they have the responsibility to everyone connected to the club to keep on sitting tight. This is about St Mirren in 2020, 2025 and beyond. If we go down and they end up getting less of a financial return then that's the consequence of them appointing Craig. They have to suck it up like the rest of us. Edited January 12, 2015 by Julian Banjos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I know it does, Shull, but on Day1 of a fans' ownership I can't see a significant change unless there is cash to splash. Might not need to be a huge amount but I think it would be needed. We all want the club to survive. That's our priority but a lot of us don't want us becoming an also-ran every year in the 2nd.or 3rd.division or whatever the f**k they call them nowadays. Season ticket Sales, advertising and sponsorship are more easily obtained in the top tier. Cannae overspend or we die, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Cannae overspend or we die, Exactly. The day we 'splash the cash' is the day the clock starts ticking on our long term future. St Mirren - and all clubs - should spend what they bring in. No more, no less. If we start spending more than what we bring in it's only a matter of time before we go into administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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