madball Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 For me the captain should be a starter and finisher for most games. If Thommo is going to be in that category I have no real issues with him keeping the armband, however if we are likely to see him subbed at 70 mins every game then I'd prefer someone else.<br /> <br /> Kelly would be a good shout, but also noticed yesterday Agnew doing a lot of talking and directing through the game (perhaps his coaching background). I kind of agree about the comments re Baird being future potential captain as I think his reading of the game is pretty good (still raw with a few errors but he's pretty composed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganSMFC Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Thommo when he is playing. If IM can add strength to the attack Thommo may find himself in and out the team by the end of the season. Yesterday i saw a very young but professional side playing. Boys like baird, naismith and mallan will push on this season and become the leaders of the team. I worried about this at first but after the game i left quite impressed at the way the lads seemed to control the game like they had been in the same team for years. If Agnew was a little louder on the field id say he would be a perfect choice as the positions he got himself in all day he had the game sat right in front of him and seemed to be a calming influence by controlling the play. My only worry with Thommo is that as time goes by and he finds himself being frustrated at young lads out running him the frustration kicks in and can have a negative impact. Still a legend though. Kelly for me isnt a definite starter or the most gifted player. He should be cover as he can play in a few positions. Mallan for a 5 year contract, buy out clause of 3mil quid and the armband by the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did Thommo pump your burd or something? You seem to be banging on about him being "finished" in every other thread. We played our first game of the season, he scored a goal, had another cleared off the line by a hand ball and won most things in the air all day. Thommo is our captain and is a great player to have in our squad for the season ahead. Do you mean this one? https://instagram.com/p/5kuSBnS0_q/ Not bad from a player that's apparently "done". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Had a word with Mrs Poz. She tells me she's perfectly happy with our captain and manager this season. Very happy in fact. Basturts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Do you mean this one? https://instagram.com/p/5kuSBnS0_q/ Not bad from a player that's apparently "done". Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card Yeah his arms is in a natural position aswell. Away you go that's a penalty all day long stops a clear goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erskinebud Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card Check out the following explanation given by referees association as guidance for referees on "intent" and you should change your mind. Regarding handball they now ask the referee to consider the proximity of the potential offender to the person last playing the ball, the speed of the ball and importantly whether the offender's arms are in a natural or unnatural position. So the question of intent is now, did the offender deliberately place his arms in an unnatural position to increase the chances of the ball hitting him? If the answer to that is yes then it is correct to penalise that player even though it used to be argued that was ball to hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card Aye. Very good. So Cameron's natural arm position is to lean against the post, thus increasing his chances of stopping a goal bound header? Yer f**king arse it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Cameron knows exactly what he is doing putting his arm up there on the post. It is a penalty and red card. Great header from Thompson anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card Behave. It's as deliberate as you'll ever see. There's no need whatsoever for his arm to be on that post while he's defending a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Not deliberate handball so no penalty/red card This is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Behave. It's as deliberate as you'll ever see. There's no need whatsoever for his arm to be on that post while he's defending a corner. Coaches always tell players to have a hand on the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 So in a football sense his hand is in a completely natural position. No pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 So in a football sense his hand is in a completely natural position. No pen Because a coach tells them to put their hand up? His hand is up, you don't run/walk about with your hand in that position so it's not natural, therefore a penalty and red card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Because a coach tells them to put their hand up? His hand is up, you don't run/walk about with your hand in that position so it's not natural, therefore a penalty and red card This situation is not about running/walking, its about standing on the post in the hope of clearing the ball if it comes in that direction. His stance on the post is textbook so completely natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Coaches always tell players to have a hand on the post So if coaches told players to punch the ball when it comes into the box then that would also be no penalty according to your logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 When players make a wall for a free kick, the majority cup their baws. So if the ball hits their hand(while cupping baws), is that a pen?? don't be daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) I want a pint of what the numerically named poster has been drinking. Edited July 26, 2015 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 So if coaches told players to punch the ball when it comes into the box then that would also be no penalty according to your logic. No. The coaches are not telling the players to put their hand on post so that they handball it. It's to make sure that they are always close enough to post. So they are not deliberately trying to cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 When players make a wall for a free kick, the majority cup their baws. So if the ball hits their hand(while cupping baws), is that a pen?? don't be daft This wasn't a wall, he wasn't protecting himself he was preventing the ball from going into the net by holding his arm out onto the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I want a pint of what the numerically named poster has been drinking. Me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 No. The coaches are not telling the players to put their hand on post so that they handball it. It's to make sure that they are always close enough to post. So they are not deliberately trying to cheat FFS. You must be on the wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I want a pint of what the numerically named poster has been drinking. Me to. Me three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I want a pint of what the numerically named poster has been drinking.To be honest I can't believe that I don't have people agreeing with me, its clearly not a deliberate handball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 FFS. You must be on the wind up. I'm not mate. Has everyone watched the slow-mo vid of it? or are people just going off what they thought they saw in real time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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