Kemp Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Are you suggesting he had accidentally glued his hand to the post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 When players make a wall for a free kick, the majority cup their baws. So if the ball hits their hand(while cupping baws), is that a pen?? don't be daft Good argument. Get Agnew trained at drilling shots at testicles! Penalty and red card every match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Are you suggesting he had accidentally glued his hand to the post?No, why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Are you suggesting he had accidentally glued his hand to the post? No. But he was told to do, so that makes it O.K. apparently. Apparently, Murray's signing the dude below to cover more of the goal and it won't matter which arm/hand keeps it out of the net, as he'll be told by the coach to get as close to the post/bar as possible. Edited July 26, 2015 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Good argument. Get Agnew trained at drilling shots at testicles! Penalty and red card every match. That's what people are suggesting, not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 No. But he was told to do, so that makes it O.K. apparently. Aye but he is the manager...so the instructions were his. Argument defeated, penalty and red card, even by mickey mouse logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Aye but he is the manager...so the instructions were his. Argument defeated, penalty and red card, even by mickey mouse logic. You don't sit in W1, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Check out the following explanation given by referees association as guidance for referees on "intent" and you should change your mind. Regarding handball they now ask the referee to consider the proximity of the potential offender to the person last playing the ball, the speed of the ball and importantly whether the offender's arms are in a natural or unnatural position. So the question of intent is now, did the offender deliberately place his arms in an unnatural position to increase the chances of the ball hitting him? If the answer to that is yes then it is correct to penalise that player even though it used to be argued that was ball to hand. Someone please answer middle paragraph for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 So in a football sense his hand is in a completely natural position. No pen You don't *need* to stand with your hand on the post, so there's nothing natural about it. Just like you don't *need* to protect your bollocks when in a wall. The difference here though (and it's a biggie) is that the second example is permitted as you are allowed to protect yourself from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Can no one answer the middle paragraph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 The silence is deafening ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I want a pint of what the numerically named poster has been drinking. I'll wager his hand is in an un-natural position right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Can no one answer the middle paragraph? Well, hand at elbow height when the rest of your body is a full arms length away from the post you're supposed to be defending. Risking the possibility of allowing the ball to strike your hand or arm in the box when it's fully outstrectched and away from your body....I'd say it is intentional, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Turns out I'm right, eh? You lot must feel like right planks. Any apologies welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Can no one answer the middle paragraph? The silence is deafening See if you want an answer, you have to give someone the chance to answer. Not claim some sort of daft hollow victory when no-one replies within 3 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Turns out I'm right, eh? You lot must feel like right planks. Any apologies welcome No fcuking chance. Cameron's arm stopped a goalbound header. Penalty Saints. All day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 12 minutes ago I asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did he put his hand on post to handball the ball?? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 12 minutes ago I asked And I answered. Clearly and concisely that yes, if your hand is in that position then it's most certainly deliberate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gingero Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's a definitely penalty - wether it's a sending off is a different argument. If you've ever played football and stood at a post, you are either holding the post to keep you close to it or you're knackered and having a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 And I answered. Clearly and concisely that yes, if your hand is in that position then it's most certainly deliberate. So he put his hand on the post to handball the ball?? Come on, this is getting silly now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did he put his hand on post to handball the ball?? No He never moved it away, he's cute - does a wee dip of the head and keeps his arm out as insurance. Penalty Saints. Goal for Thommo. 4-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Did he put his hand on post to handball the ball?? No OK. I'll say this one last time as you're clearly not getting the jist. His hand didn't need to f**king be on the post. If he was actually covering the post correctly, he wouldn't have been an entire arms length away from it when the header went in and would have been able to clear it with his chest or head. Therefore, by making this mistake (and that's what it was) he's denied a clear goalscoring opportunity by handballing it on the line. Penalty and a red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's a definitely penalty - wether it's a sending off is a different argument. If you've ever played football and stood at a post, you are either holding the post to keep you close to it or you're knackered and having a rest. I'm sorry mate, its none or both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17/03/13 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 OK. I'll say this one last time as you're clearly not getting the jist. His hand didn't need to f**king be on the post. If he was actually covering the post correctly, he wouldn't have been an entire arms length away from it when the header went in and would have been able to clear it with his chest or head. Therefore, by making this mistake (and that's what it was) he's denied a clear goalscoring opportunity by handballing it on the line. Penalty and a red card. Completely wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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