Stevie Mallan

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We f**ked up with McGinn especially as we paid him peanuts when it was clear he was going to be a stand out.

McLean slightly different. He really wasn't particularly good for long spells when he was with us. Didn't make it on to the pitch at the cup final if you remember correctly. Only really came into his own when we started playing him in a more advanced role and not stuck out on the wing so not purely his fault.

We managed to persuade him to sign a new contract when he could have walked, but obviously to do that we had to include a release agreement be it verbal or written.

In the case of Mallan, he's a special player who can do great things, but for me he's not reached the levels that either McGinn or McLean hit during their time with us. He can go missing in games and again that might partly be down to who he is playing with and what he's being asked to do, but either way, I still think he's some way to go before you can say he's a real gem.

[Ayrshire Saints]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

[Soctty]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

He's got plenty of time left on his contract, and teams can either pay up for that potential that he has, or they can shut up as far as I'm concerned.

[pod]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

Ye, but don't tell the opposition that.

[TopCat]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

For a dead ball specialist, he's done pretty well to get 5 goals from open play in his first full season in senior football?

Not to mention scoring the goal of the season in Scotland last season - also from open play.

The desire to talk our own young players down never ceases to amaze me.

[Kendo]

For a dead ball specialist, he's done pretty well to get 5 goals from open play in his first full season in senior football?

Not to mention scoring the goal of the season in Scotland last season - also from open play.

The desire to talk our own young players down never ceases to amaze me.

Spot on TC, Mallan is a very talented young player who suffers from inconsistency. Last season he arguably contributed more than McGinn in the top league and scored one of the best goals I have ever seen from a saints player.

He is a special talent and we're lucky to have him.

[Sonny]

Mallan has only be playing for just over 12 months and most of that time with pretty shit team-mates. I reckon he has potential to be an exceptional player but maybe needs some decent players around him. At least some who will work as besides Goodwin and a lesser extent Quinn he has been carrying the whole midfield by himself AND trying to score goals.

[Isle Of Bute Saint]

Embarrassing that the sun would even consider publishing something so fabricated.

1. He's still in contract

2. They can't afford him

3. He has a better future than the fakes

However in days gone by we have had to sell players on to balance the books. Remember Guns leaving us for them. If theyou are going to give cash plus a player also adding on a sell on clause then a deal may be struck. Have seen stranger things happen at our club.

[Kendo]

However in days gone by we have had to sell players on to balance the books. Remember Guns leaving us for them. If theyou are going to give cash plus a player also adding on a sell on clause then a deal may be struck. Have seen stranger things happen at our club.

I know things have been tough lately but didn't realise that we had stooped to gun running.

[BuddieinEK]

For a dead ball specialist, he's done pretty well to get 5 goals from open play in his first full season in senior football?

Not to mention scoring the goal of the season in Scotland last season - also from open play.

The desire to talk our own young players down never ceases to amaze me.

Not to worry... once Mallan has moved on for a pittance after a barrage of abuse from his own "supporters" about how ineffectual he was for Saints... starts to shine in a team built around him where the supporters support and appreciate him... and gets a cap for Scotland... we can look back fondly and say that his treatment at Saints helped to develop him.

Not like that has ever happened before right enough!

[pod]

Not to worry... once Mallan has moved on for a pittance after a barrage of abuse from his own "supporters" about how ineffectual he was for Saints... starts to shine in a team built around him where the supporters support and appreciate him... and gets a cap for Scotland... we can look back fondly and say that his treatment at Saints helped to develop him.

Not like that has ever happened before right enough!

Will that be under the old regime or the new one.

[habbiesaint]

The chat about mallan on here by some is ridiculous, a return of 12 goals from 54 games with one of those an utter worldy from a lad just turned 20 in the last week is a pretty decent ratio. The lad imo has something special about him, not scared of a tackle, has a decent range of passing with either foot and can take a decent dead ball. I'm still not convinced he's a centre mid, I'd like to see him playing a more advanced roll and being able to have more an effect on games. I've no doubt he will go on to bigger and better things in the future and even a few caps with the seniors.

[stlucifer]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

Mallan is a different type of player. You can't compare apples and oranges except to say they are both good for you. Stevie will not live up to his potential unless he's let off the leash. We need a stronger midfield to allow his flair to come to the fore.

Mark my words. Mallan is a future star in the making. He just needs a midfield general to let him loose.

[Lizard King]

Mcginn and McLean were occasionally able to boss games against SPL clubs, Mallan can't do that in the championship. He us nowhere near the standard those 2 reached with us yet. Currently he's a dead ball specialist and isn't worth anywhere near 300k

I know what you're saying but thinking about it, if Mallan signs for a Motherwell or Hearts and does nothing else but scores 5 or 6 free kicks that helps them into Europe then he'll easily justify that price tag...

[Herbie]

There's no doubt there is a talent in there somewhere but it just doesn't show itself often enough for me to put him in the same category as McGinn or McLean. Wee Stevie frustrates the hell out of me with his drifting in and out of games.

I see him in the same kind of mould as Burton O'Brien, rather than a Kenny McLean and will be delighted if we can command a stupid fee for him. For £200k I'd bite someone's arm off.

[munoz]

Kenny also drifted in and out of games as did McGinn .

I'd prefer if we hold on to him for another season , then cash in .

[faraway saint]

I totally agree with Froggie.

No surprise, no brain & no idea, could be a movie.

[insaintee]

No surprise, no brain & no idea, could be a movie.

[windae cleaner]

There's no doubt there is a talent in there somewhere but it just doesn't show itself often enough for me to put him in the same category as McGinn or McLean. Wee Stevie frustrates the hell out of me with his drifting in and out of games.

I see him in the same kind of mould as Burton O'Brien, rather than a Kenny McLean and will be delighted if we can command a stupid fee for him. For £200k I'd bite someone's arm off.

I see him the same as McLean

A player who plays better in an advanced role

He isn't a centre mid who can keep the ball we need to play to his strengths which isn't happening at the moment

[Thorizaar]

We f**ked up with McGinn especially as we paid him peanuts when it was clear he was going to be a stand out.

We paid him what we offered him and what he accepted. Not sure how that's a f**k up as we shouldn't have paid him a penny more than that, "peanuts" or not.

[scottd]

If we should lose tomorrow and results go for Dumbarton and Livi - which is not unlikely - any residual value of Saints players will further diminish ( if that is possible)

How's that working out for you?

Why are you so desperate for St Mirren to fail?

[Tommy]

We f**ked up with McGinn especially as we paid him peanuts when it was clear he was going to be a stand out.

McLean slightly different. He really wasn't particularly good for long spells when he was with us. Didn't make it on to the pitch at the cup final if you remember correctly. Only really came into his own when we started playing him in a more advanced role and not stuck out on the wing so not purely his fault.

We managed to persuade him to sign a new contract when he could have walked, but obviously to do that we had to include a release agreement be it verbal or written.

In the case of Mallan, he's a special player who can do great things, but for me he's not reached the levels that either McGinn or McLean hit during their time with us. He can go missing in games and again that might partly be down to who he is playing with and what he's being asked to do, but either way, I still think he's some way to go before you can say he's a real gem.

So you know how much McGinn was being paid ?

[FTOF]

How's that working out for you?

Why are you so desperate for St Mirren to fail?

Because his big team blew it yesterday.

Here to help.

Edited April 3, 2016 by FTOF

[Stuart Dickson]

Mallan is also not reaching the levels of McGinn and McLean in a lower league - often playing against part time footballers. McGinn didn't draw any other interest other than from a reasonably well supported club in a tier lower to where he had been playing and McLean, as Div points out, was always woefully inconsistent at Paisley.

I'd have bitten off Dundee hand for the reported £60k for Mallan. Clearly Hartley is a bigger mug than I even had him marked for

Edited April 3, 2016 by Stuart Dickson

[BuddieinEK]

Mallan is also not reaching the levels of McGinn and McLean in a lower league - often playing against part time footballers. McGinn didn't draw any other interest other than from a reasonably well supported club in a tier lower to where he had been playing and McLean, as Div points out, was always woefully inconsistent at Paisley.

I'd have bitten off Dundee hand for the reported £60k for Mallan. Clearly Hartley is a bigger mug than I even had him marked for

How did Lambert fare in the equivalent of the Championship against Raith Rovers et al?

Did he still carve out a not too terrible career?

Why do you think things should automatically be easier for a young player in a lower division... Where there is less time on the ball and a damned sight more crude tackles to contend with?