leolovesstmfc Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm absolutely gutted for Naismith today was sitting near it and it looked a bad one! I wish for the best that it's not as serious we fear! I thought Conlan was crap today and would rather see Kelly in his position next game. Even IF we sign Webster and I really hope we do! I think we now need cover for the RB position and LB position's. Thought Baird looked Ok at the back today. Thought today's decisions were strange Why not put on Goodwin? Instead we put on a Young boy who had never played in that position? But after I heard the line ups today my first thought was WTF no Thompson! I said to my son we don't have much cover in Defence on the bench! I still don't think Goodwin's a defender but it was the most logical choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm absolutely gutted for Naismith today was sitting near it and it looked a bad one! I wish for the best that it's not as serious we fear! I thought Conlan was crap today and would rather see Kelly in his position next game. Even IF we sign Webster and I really hope we do! I think we now need cover for the RB position and LB position's. Thought Baird looked Ok at the back today. Thought today's decisions were strange Why not put on Goodwin? Instead we put on a Young boy who had never played in that position? But after I heard the line ups today my first thought was WTF no Thompson! I said to my son we don't have much cover in Defence on the bench! I still don't think Goodwin's a defender but it was the most logical choice. errrrrrr... when has Goodwin played right back? As far as I am aware, Cuddihy has played there for the u20's in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank McGarvey' wonky legs Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 errrrrrr... when has Goodwin played right back? As far as I am aware, Cuddihy has played there for the u20's in the past. Goodwin started as a right back and when he signed from Hamilton it was one of the positions that it was stated that he could cover that said it has now been years since he played there and anyone with any pace will rip him a new one. Cuddihy was the natural choice there today but long term we now need someone that can play there and has experience. If Cuddihy was tp play there we would have only Baird and Kelly capable of winning the ball in the air against big attacking teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) errrrrrr... when has Goodwin played right back? As far as I am aware, Cuddihy has played there for the u20's in the past. He has but plays mostly in midfield. Jordon Stewart mostly plays right back and is actually ok Edited August 16, 2015 by insaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The idea of Goodwin at right back getting no defensive cover from McMullen fills me with dread. We are vulnerable enough on the left flank. Any remotely decent team would take us apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Div Barron? Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Div Barron? Just saying. Shut the f**k up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Shut the f**k up Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 If we sign Webster I could see us going 3 at the back if Jason is out for any amount of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 If we sign Webster I could see us going 3 at the back if Jason is out for any amount of time This. 3 at the back would allow us to be stronger in midfield, especially at home. Would need wide men that can track runners though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Div Barron? Just saying. Just don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 If the lad Rooney is still available, we should bite the bullet and look at him. Aside from his naivety for the penalty, though, I didn't think Cuddihy looked too bad. Not as effective going forward, however. Might be better to revert to a back three. Do we have wing-backs, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yeah the boy Shaun Rooney might not be a bad shout if he is still around. The team need experience and to be stronger positionally and in work off the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The idea of Goodwin at right back getting no defensive cover from McMullen fills me with dread. We are vulnerable enough on the left flank. Any remotely decent team would take us apart. The logical fix is Goodwin goes into the centre, Baird or Kelly go wide as cover till Naismith returns. In fact that should be happening now on the left with Conlan benched until he proves/disproves he's worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolovesstmfc Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I would not have Goodwin anywhere near our defence he's not a Defender and he's not a Right back! He's a holding midfielder. I would play Kelly at LB Webster (if he signs) and Baird in the centre but who do we play at right back? Even if you move Baird to the right which I think he would play well there! Who will cover at CB! The fact that our only defensive option was Jim Goodwin on the bench and the fact that we are only 2 game's in and we have lost Naismith for a sustained period means we need 2 new defenders! Not helped by the other FACT Conlan is Baws! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeian1877 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Not looking good for him. Just spoke to him and he's fearing the worst! Said he heard it pop. Could be similar to McGregors injury! Fingers crossed for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Not looking good for him. Just spoke to him and he's fearing the worst! Said he heard it pop. Could be similar to McGregors injury! Fingers crossed for him. Terrible news. Happened in front of me and he knew immediately that it was a bad one. He also looked in a lot of pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Goodwin has played almost all his career as a right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolovesstmfc Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 You might be right Billy? But Murray prefers him in the LOB (left on bench) position! I think if Murray doesn't rate Goodwin it's best for him and the club if he moves on! Goodwin would get regular football elsewhere and St.Mirren could use money saved on wages to strengthen the squad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 If your Goodwin and you were watching that yesterday you deserve to feel angry. He is a cup winning captain who if he was 23 wouldn't be getting this abuse. He tries he ain't perfect but I would have him back in now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolovesstmfc Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yes and as a cup winning legend if he stays and sits on the bench for a season he's a waste of money and he gets no playing time! I have previously stated Goodwin has been a great servant and liability in equal measure! I can see reason for playing him next game especially after Saturday's midfield performance. The problem is Murray doesn't rate him that was obvious by the fact he never brought him on when Naismith got injured! If he's not going to play and he's one of our higher earners then I think it's best for the club and him if he was to move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yes and as a cup winning legend if he stays and sits on the bench for a season he's a waste of money and he gets no playing time! I have previously stated Goodwin has been a great servant and liability in equal measure! I can see reason for playing him next game especially after Saturday's midfield performance. The problem is Murray doesn't rate him that was obvious by the fact he never brought him on when Naismith got injured! If he's not going to play and he's one of our higher earners then I think it's best for the club and him if he was to move! No it wasn't. All that showed was that he didn't want to disrupt the central defence and he thought Cuddihy was better suited to covering right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolovesstmfc Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 So Ian Murray decided to go with a young boy instead of moving Kelly across and playing Goodwin at CB! Aye sounds like he rate's Goodwin right enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Until we bring in a right back, I think going with a back 3 is the best option, with Goodwin in with Baird and Kelly, until we sign a centre half. Conlan is pretty pish anyway, so it might work out for us. On Conlan, does anyone else think he looks like a centre-half that's been shunted out to left-back? Doesn't carry himself like a natural full-back. I also think we have underestimated the physicality of the league, and wouldn't mind signing some players that can 'put themselves about a bit' so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Until we bring in a right back, I think going with a back 3 is the best option, with Goodwin in with Baird and Kelly, until we sign a centre half. Conlan is pretty pish anyway, so it might work out for us. On Conlan, does anyone else think he looks like a centre-half that's been shunted out to left-back? Doesn't carry himself like a natural full-back. I also think we have underestimated the physicality of the league, and wouldn't mind signing some players that can 'put themselves about a bit' so to speak. Interesting theory re Conlon. Cheesey was hung out to dry when played at right back where he lacked positional sense and confidence. You may well be on to something there... although I really don't see him as a centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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