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Callum Gilhooley

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I could simply write,

1st Afghanistan

2nd Iraq

And not provide a source like you have previously.

But that would be me simply lying like you have in the past.

Isn't that correct?

So I'll not bother and let you do the sums. You could even ask someone from your imaginary list of folk you regularly claim your friends or acquaint with, not forgetting the ones you pay regularly to help you.

Oh dear. So you are lying.

See Amnesty International provides actual figures for the number of asylum seekers into the UK by nationality and for every year over the last ten years the number one country is Pakistan. It's a statistic that shouldn't surprise anyone either as many of the asylum seekers are family members of existing UK residents. I know it's hardly the picture daft Socialist Nationalists want to paint but it is the unmistakable truth, backed 100% by statistics and evidence.

The country in second place varies from year to year but always in the top 10 are countries like Iran, Eritrea, Sudan and Sri Lanka where their population is fleeing, not from "imperial forces" but from persecution within their own country. Afghanistan also features regularly in the top 10 over the last few years but not with figures anywhere near where you are suggesting - indeed less than 33% of the figures coming from Pakistan, but Iraq does not feature in the top ten in ANY of the 10 years. One last interesting statistic is the country we have showing the greatest willingness to receive from is Iran with more than 50% of asylum seekers from that country granted legal status.

Never mind - we all know that the SNP aren't very good with figures. The EU called the SNP out for "accounting irregularities" only last week. Sir Ian Wood has blown apart SNP claims from last year about the strength of the North Sea Oil industry and how it could support an Independent Scotland by in the last few days saying that the current oil price makes the North Sea Oil industry unsustainable. We know that in the past Alex Salmond sent letters offering a nations support to Freddy Goodwin as he embarked on his mission to effectively bankrupt RBS with his catastrophic decision to purchase ABN Amro. And we know that the SNP Scottish Government has blown their own budget year after year - most recently overspending by an eye watering £9Bn. Given that you get your pish information from SNP propaganda websites I can hardly blame your tardiness with facts and figures.

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In simple terms, No.

If you can show where I lied please carry on.

So you'll be willing to show the source for the oil price that never existed in the real world?

Because only a sad lying lowlife would lie, don't you agree.

You've lied repeatedly on this thread. If you think you are a sad lowlife who would I be to disagree.

You claimed Afghanistan and Iraq were the principle countries where the UK Asylum Seekers came from. You claimed you drew this conclusion after "checking my figures". You've then failed to provide your source or any evidence. You lied you sad lowlife. :rolleyes:

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You claimed you drew this conclusion after "checking my figures". You've then failed to provide your source or any evidence.

Erm, you appear to be contradicting yourself here...
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Not at all. He claimed he'd checked it. He proved nothing. I think you might be struggling with your reading again. Perhaps have another go?

Oh dear...

I can read fine. You stated cockles made claims based on your figures. You then ask him for his source and his evidence.

FFS!

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Remember this is the real world, where you've not provided again proof of what was actually asked and not what you imagined that was asked or previously answered.

I've given you the source. I could provide the link but I don't want to give you room to deflect further. The fact is that the ONS figures show that the country where most of the UK asylum seekers come from is Pakistan. This is also confirmed on the Amnesty International Report and by the Refugee Council UK report. All three sources provide league tables as well as statistics on how many were seeking asylum and how many had their cases approved. All three sources show categorically that Iraq does not feature in the top ten in any year over the last ten years and that would put the number of asylum seekers from that country in particular at no more than the low three figures in any one year.

You claim to have checked those figures and you claim that I am lying. I am asking you to provide details of where you checked those figures. You've steadfastly refused. You are a liar and you describe liars as lowlifes. Personally I just think you are a coward but we've already proved that beyond all argument. rolleyes.gif

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Oh dear...

I can read fine. You stated cockles made claims based on your figures. You then ask him for his source and his evidence.

FFS!

Cockles claims to have checked my figures. Presumably that means he has checked them against a source. I am asking to see that source. The fact he is unwilling to provide the source where he supposedly checked the figures proves he lied. Your attempt at deflection on behalf of your Natsi mate is admirable but really you'd be better leaving him to dig his own hole. :rolleyes:

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Cockles claims to have checked my figures. Presumably that means he has checked them against a source. I am asking to see that source. The fact he is unwilling to provide the source where he supposedly checked the figures proves he lied. Your attempt at deflection on behalf of your Natsi mate is admirable but really you'd be better leaving him to dig his own hole. :rolleyes:

I'm not deflecting on behalf of anyone.

I'm pointing out how you managed to contradict yourself in consecutive sentences.

Everything since then is just your usual long winded deflection - the argument between you and cockles is irrelevant.

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Again your not answering the question I asked and only answering what you imagined was asked.

Take for example one years figure that I was referring to in my original question. 14,570 asylum seekers from Iraq. Yes fourteen thousand five hundred and seventy. See I check my figures and don't rely on imaginary paper stories.

Over to the liar to provide the newspaper or any article for his imaginary low oil price.

Oh FFS. You quote a one off figure from 2002 - the year before George Bush and Tony Blair sent troops into Iraq and a year before Saddle Hussains regime was toppled from power and you use this as proof that the war caused high levels of immigration.

I had you as a liar, but no, you are simply thick

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So thick it is then? rolleyes.gif

I just checked the lying bigots figures.

Since we were involved in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, guess where the majority of asylum seekers were from?

And seeing how these figures are checkable, I'm accepting only answers from trustworthy folk who don't lie about going to lawyers.

Then you produce an figure for the number of asylum seekers from Iraq from 2002 - the year before the war in Iraq started - and you think this is proof. Thanks for showing the world you are as stupid as "Ernie" lol.giflol.giflol.giflol.giflol.giflol.giflol.gif

Just a thought - you two dafties haven't followed George Adam into the SMiSA fan takeover thing have you? If so I might as well stop donating my money. Gilmour might have run St Mirren into the ground but that would be small beer compared to the kind of damage you two idiots would inflict.

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Again, where did I write only the Iraq war. I wrote as you quoted both, so I was correct.

Now if you understood basic English you will also notice I've never wrote where the majority of asylum seekers actually came from in my original question.

So as I've only asked questions and stated facts. Show me again where I've lied.

Remember, using only facts in the real world not something you've imagined.

And without any deflecting what about your claim about asylum seekers from Pakistan being the majority for every year for the last 10 years yet you've written that Eritrea was the majority only last year. Now was that a lie or are you just stupid.

Oh right, so now your claim is that UK troops in Afghanistan caused a huge increase in Iraqi asylum seekers. It wouldn't have been anything to do with Saddam Hussain continued persecution of the Kurds in the country. :rolleyes:

Give it up Cockles. You've made an absolute cnut of yourself again and you've achieved the impossible in making your mate look less stupid than you when he claimed the UK National Debt was funded by Premium Bonds.

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No I haven't. Just because you can't understand English don't think that we're all like you.

As for the second paragraph, you'll be able to provide proof of SBF claiming that.

Still no reply from you regarding Pakistan asylum seekers. Must be a head in the sand moment again for you just like when asked for proof of the oil price you famously quoted. Or the lie you told regarding where you stayed. Lies always get found out.

You have. You've made an rip roaring arse of yourself just like you did when you threatened to come and video me and then didn't turn up. It would take a huge stretch of the imagination to blame an increase in asylum seekers from Iraq being down to the UK and US military action in Afghanistan.

You've also failed to provide a source for your statement that the second highest number of asylum seekers since the "imperialist wars" is Afghanistan - no doubt because you've made that bullshit up too.

You're a ridiculous foolish coward of a man.

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How long before Stupid Dickson blames this on the SNP !! 1eye.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34071492

David Camerons promise from 2011

"no ifs, no buts" promise that he would bring immigration numbers down to "levels our country can manage".

But then again , we know what tory promises are like!

Do you have a problem with refugees coming to the UK?

We have an ageing population in the UK, particularly in Scotland. We need immigration.

Its a disgrace that racists like yourself come out with stuff like this.

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Again your not telling the truth.

Show me anywhere where I threatened you. If going to laugh in your face is threatening then I'll gladly admit to it. Remember it was you that challenged me to visit you not the other way about.

Now back on subject, again show me where I wrote that Afghanistan had the second highest amount of asylum seekers. I can save you the bother, I didn't. Again basic English if only you could read.

And we can all see your only deflecting from your basic arithmetic error when it came to the amount of folk from Pakistan and Eritrea sought asylum last year.

So was that another lie or are you just that thick you can't even remember what you actually wrote.

Liar, liar. :rolleyes:

If you'll remember you wanted me to call you a Natsi to your face. I said I'd be happy to but that you'd have to come to Wishaw. You asked where I would be. I told you I'd be with the Wishaw Wycombe 98s squad at Wishaw Sports Centre 3g and gave you the time of our match. You said that suited you cause you'd be next door at the indoor bowling. I waited, I even hung back after the match just in case you'd been held up. You were a complete no show. When asked where you were you made up some shite about having been warned not to meet me for the sake of your career. I can look up the thread if you want reminded of the facts of your cowardice. :rolleyes:

As for the rest of your deflection let me just laugh at you one more time. Imagine blaming a one off increase in Iraqi Asylum seekers on a war that hadn't happened yet. What a fool you are, coward!

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I'll start with the topic first. So what was it asylum seekers from Pakistan being more than from Eritrea or Eritrea asylum seekers being more than from Pakistan.

Please make your mind up. Or stop lying.

And where have I blamed any war. I asked a question and stated only facts.

Now with your other lies, whilst your looking for imaginary posts, could you answer the other questions/quotes that you've alleged to have been written.

I won't hold my breath.

More deflection. Just admit it coward - you made a rip roaring c**t of yourself. Your claim that the UK had a huge influx of Iraq asylum seekers because of a war that hadn't happened yet is as stupid as it gets.

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