proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 After today's result i think that we should cut our losses and get a new manager in before the season is gone. Yet again we were poor at home, even our goal came from poor defending by Alloa. Make no mistakes.... Alloa are very average and yet at the end they looked just as likely to snatch a winner. We took a chance on Murray and for some reason it's not working, we should not wait until it is too late like last season. We have a very decent squad but you wouldn't think it when you watch us play. I don't know if we can afford to wait another few months on the off chance that he'll turn it round... over to you SG and co...i won't hold my breath!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Murray out!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Murray out!!!! It's like last season all over again! Do we wait and hope he turns it round like we did with Tommy Craig or do we save our season and change it now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Murray out? Not until we get our new manager bounce - give us our new manager bounce Murray, you useless chunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Murray out? Not until we get our new manager bounce - give us our new manager bounce Murray, you useless chunt. Bounce?... we're as flat as 3 month old roadkill on the M8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Mixu and McCall both looking for a job ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Mixu and McCall both looking for a job ..... Would take either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Until today I was firmly behind him turning it around however it is patently clear Murray is incapable of setting up a team to attack despite initial formation and therefore I am now in the GTF camp. Goodwin won every ball in midfield, outstanding and yet every well placed pass he played produced nothing. Mallan was hopeless today and Carswell looked decent because he had nothing to do. The game was crying out for Agnew. Despite being a shiter there were no tackles un the game so it was Taylor made for him. Utterly pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Absolutely horrible to watch. Can we act soon and like sven did with England have someone, anyone save us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Until today I was firmly behind him turning it around however it is patently clear Murray is incapable of setting up a team to attack despite initial formation and therefore I am now in the GTF camp. Goodwin won every ball in midfield, outstanding and yet every well placed pass he played produced nothing. Mallan was hopeless today and Carswell looked decent because he had nothing to do. The game was crying out for Agnew. Despite being a shiter there were no tackles un the game so it was Taylor made for him. Utterly pathetic. My feelings too... I was willing to see if he could turn it round and that would have started today with a comfortable win... If anything i was fearing they would snatch a winner at the end.... not acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pass pass pass Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 If we ever find the next fergie , well never be able to tell cause hell be horsed our the door after a dozen matches, why don't we all manage the club by committee lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 If we ever find the next fergie , well never be able to tell cause hell be horsed our the door after a dozen matches, why don't we all manage the club by committee lol We gave Tommy Craig too long....look how that worked out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donport Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 We are in free fall simple as ! Canny accept not beating Alloa at home these are must win games!....sorry totally gash 3rd bottom says it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 If we ever find the next fergie , well never be able to tell cause hell be horsed our the door after a dozen matches, why don't we all manage the club by committee lol Murray is not the next Fergie, Ferguson would be on the touchline telling the players to listen to the crowd and perform instead of sitting up top for "the better view". At least in the directors box he only has to listen to two rows of people shouting at him from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leolovesstmfc Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I 100% blame Ian Murray for how poor the team is! The board got it badly wrong last season with managerial appointments that led to us being relegated. When they appointed Murray I thought it was a good choice! a young manager who had ambition and experience in the first division.. But it's not working Murray has got a decent squad he's got the best Training facilities bar Servco he's had a decent budget to sign player's considering the league we're in! No Murray tactics are the reason we are struggling... There is absolutely no movement in our team his starting line ups are baffling as are his formations and substitutions! He's had quarter of the season and if we keep him as manager then I fear we will stay in the same position we are just now if not worse! I hope the board don't do the same as last season and take far to long to address this! The other problem WHEN Murray is sacked is who do we replace him with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Let's not forget this is the championship, not the Premier. When we were getting pumped every week under Tommy Craig we were playing better teams... There doesn't seem to be any signs of it improving any time soon either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Would take either. So would Dundee utd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 So would Dundee utd can't have both though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I 100% blame Ian Murray for how poor the team is! The board got it badly wrong last season with managerial appointments that led to us being relegated. When they appointed Murray I thought it was a good choice! a young manager who had ambition and experience in the first division.. But it's not working Murray has got a decent squad he's got the best Training facilities bar Servco he's had a decent budget to sign player's considering the league we're in! No Murray tactics are the reason we are struggling... There is absolutely no movement in our team his starting line ups are baffling as are his formations and substitutions! He's had quarter of the season and if we keep him as manager then I fear we will stay in the same position we are just now if not worse! I hope the board don't do the same as last season and take far to long to address this! The other problem WHEN Murray is sacked is who do we replace him with? I agree with you 100%. It was even more compounded when Murray stated in a radio interview after todays game that he was sure some players could not handle being at the club, I do not know what players he is referring too, but it was him that brought in some of the players I presume he is talking about. That statement is in no way going to raise players morale or is going to get the team to play better. The statement shows Murrays immaturity, if he had words to say about the players he should have kept it internal. Like Ayrshire Saints I too was firmly behind Murray but todays game was the last straw, a measly draw against bottom of the Scottish Championship League Alloa. Until we scored the goal, which in my opinion was undeserved, but nevertheless one any St.Mirren supporter would take, we were playing rubbish. Indeed the phrase "I would rather watch paint dry" springs to mind, Murrays statement goes along the same lines as that at a Partick Thistle game last season by Stuart Gilmour, he answered in a question posed to him during the game" if he was prepared to let the team continue in a downward spiral under Tommy Craig" and just like Murray he put the blame firmly at the door of the players. As leolovesstmfc poses if Murray is shown the door "something I very much doubt" just who do we get to replace him, given our financial constraints, of course the other question is, if we do not get another manager in quick will our financial situation not get worse as the revenue we get from games and possible future sponsorship deals dwindle and in some cases evaporate. I'll finish by stating like Isle of Bute, I will not be in attendance at the Dunfermline game, unless their is a change of management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 We could get Mourinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 We could get Mourinho Just listened to Jose in his post match interview and his description of Chelsea's problems is so similar to ours. He says he has good players but the confidence is so low that one set back leads to a complete collapse. Jose thinks Chelsea need to be 3 up at half time to stand a chance of winning a game. That's from a guy who manages a team that were champions last year. I can only imagine how low our dressing room must be. Don't have Scooby how to change that and Ian Murray looks to be scratching his head as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfbuddie Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 interesting one for me is how distant he is at games watching from stands, which i don't have problem with but its fact everyone in stadium can see issues in team but he cant seem to change team/formation to change it I've meet him away from football and found him really shy, can a manager afford to be a shy person i would say no personally i will give him next 2 games a cup game we would like to win but wont effect league, although a win or loss could effect team liv game huge if was to loss next 2 fans will really turn and board will need to act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 The other problem WHEN Murray is sacked is who do we replace him with? Can't see the BoD asking Goodwin to take over, so my guess is Webster and Langfield until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondsmfc Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 This is getting beyond a joke.... Get the Edinburgh version of 'wee clueless' to f**k before we end up another league down. Embarrassing doesn't even some up today's debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 t was even more compounded when Murray stated in a radio interview after todays game that he was sure some players could not handle being at the club, I do not know what players he is referring too, but it was him that brought in some of the players I presume he is talking about. That statement is in no way going to raise players morale or is going to get the team to play better. The statement shows Murrays immaturity, if he had words to say about the players he should have kept it internal. It's a ludicrous statement from a man who is trumping Danny, Tommy, Gus and Gary for messing around with players. Howieson is an attacking central midfielder, but Murray plays him wide. McMullan was hoping to form a partnership with Thommo, Murray sticks him wide to chase the punts out of defence. Carswell is a defensive midfielder, Murray has him trying to create. Not to mention he resigning of Gow...f**k sake you wouldn't sign him on Football Manager if you were Gateshead. The perceived treatment of Ridgers, the signing of Conlan, taking Gallagher off for Morgan, one up at home in the Championship, launch it football... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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