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Great Column in The Sun today by legendary Saints supporting Journalist, Bill Leckie.

He reckons Murray has alienated the Fans with his comments last week.

Unlike Fergie in the 1970's who got the fans on his side almost immediately.

Maybe somebody could post the Article here, please?.

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Also agree with Leckie..

A Knighthood for Andy Murray is now due.

An absolute credit to Great Britain.

Legend

Could start a Knighthood Thread in General Nonsense or maybe just stick it in the The Tennis Thread which is surprisingly in General Nonsense also. Edited by shull

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Murray is hugely overpaid for playing a boring niche game that he enjoys and is quite good at.

Apart from the fact that I think he is sufficiently moral to knock back all such blandishments from the establishment, what has he done that is better than Jocky Wilson or the Scottish snooker players?

Or the boolers or curlers...?

Such people get rewarded for being gifted or lucky at playing games. They are honoured simply by their country selecting them as representatives of their sports. They shouldn't need baubles.

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He hasn't alienated me with his comments

He has by the way he sets out our team,the way we play and having no tactical nous

He has produced the worst St Mirren i have ever seen

I'm struggling to believe he actually thinks it's acceptable

What is Miller doing,the players have they no professional pride.

I have witnessed players unable to pass to each other or make themselves available for a pass

What do they do at Ralston apart from injuring each other

Fitness levels shocking

Murray has given up and awaiting his pay off but the players should ask themselves i'm better than this and do something about it

You've hit the nail square on the head as regards to all you say in this post. It's pretty much how the majority of us feel. The fitness point is a real concern for me. I see a team who look slower and second to every ball against all the opposition we've been up against all season.

John McGinn is an example of a player when he played against us for Hibs, looked fitter sharper and a different player from when he was at Saints.

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Murray is hugely overpaid for playing a boring niche game that he enjoys and is quite good at.

Apart from the fact that I think he is sufficiently moral to knock back all such blandishments from the establishment, what has he done that is better than Jocky Wilson or the Scottish snooker players?

Or the boolers or curlers...?

Such people get rewarded for being gifted or lucky at playing games. They are honoured simply by their country selecting them as representatives of their sports. They shouldn't need baubles.

Indeed , what about that other Scottish hero that won two world hour records and two world pursuit championship wins. He will never get a knighthood and if he is anything like what I think he is he would turn it down anyway. . they couldn't even name the National Stadium after him. .

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This is difficult for Murray to counter and could be the beginning of the end. Once one journo gets on your back the vultures begin to circle and it won't be long before the vicious hacks start to publish similar, damning articles. I've never read anything to suggest he has friends among the sports writers so he has nobody to champion his cause (except perhaps wee Chico who is never hyper-critical of people in the game). Wonder how the board will cope if there is a press hounding of Murray in the two weeks leading up to the AGM?

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Murray is hugely overpaid for playing a boring niche game that he enjoys and is quite good at.

Apart from the fact that I think he is sufficiently moral to knock back all such blandishments from the establishment, what has he done that is better than Jocky Wilson or the Scottish snooker players?

Or the boolers or curlers...?

Such people get rewarded for being gifted or lucky at playing games. They are honoured simply by their country selecting them as representatives of their sports. They shouldn't need baubles.

I wid give them all Knighthoods including the fabulous Andy Murray.

Hendry, Wilson, Watt and many more.

Jock Stein also and not forgetting Tony Fitzpatrick, Tom Hendrie and Danny Lennon.

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This is difficult for Murray to counter and could be the beginning of the end. Once one journo gets on your back the vultures begin to circle and it won't be long before the vicious hacks start to publish similar, damning articles. I've never read anything to suggest he has friends among the sports writers so he has nobody to champion his cause (except perhaps wee Chico who is never hyper-critical of people in the game). Wonder how the board will cope if there is a press hounding of Murray in the two weeks leading up to the AGM?

What is interesting, though, is when you think of the attention Tommy Craig attracted from hacks and 'pundits'. From an earlier stage in the season last year, his position was being discussed very widely, and he had very few, if any, allies. They really put the boot in - not without justification, it has to be said.

I appreciate that the difference this year might well be down to the fact that we are no longer a top flight club, but I am still quite surprised at how little notice has been paid of Murray's wretched tenure to date. He has got off lightly so far.

ETA: is he possibly avoiding the full glare on account of being a 'younger manager', and being cut a bit of slack as a result?

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Murray is hugely overpaid for playing a boring niche game that he enjoys and is quite good at.

Apart from the fact that I think he is sufficiently moral to knock back all such blandishments from the establishment, what has he done that is better than Jocky Wilson or the Scottish snooker players?

Or the boolers or curlers...?

Such people get rewarded for being gifted or lucky at playing games. They are honoured simply by their country selecting them as representatives of their sports. They shouldn't need baubles.

So who should all the money that Murray generates go to?

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Whilst we chastise Murray for leading a bunch of hopeless clowns, all blame certainly does not sit with him. The club has plummeted since they relieved Danny of his services, and although many criticized Danny, a national trophy and top 8 are billuions of miles away from where we are heading. Don't think this has bottomed out, and anyone who witnessed our recent form know far well that Sons and Alloa are a better footballing team than we are. We are appalling. My pal told me that early 70s we were dreadful, but I have never seen a Saints team that cant make more than 3 passes, and certainly no more than 2 forward. I have never been so embarrassed as I was Saturday.

Does Murray ask the players to line up on the 18 yard line, does he ask them to thump the ball anywhere, does he make us the most predictable shower of tossers to play against. Simple- how to beat St Mirren, play high and press, don't worry they have no pace, no ability and no fight. Said it before, the BOD watch this piss, and they seem happy, so why do we give a flying. The only way is down, and yes of course we can get relegated, looking at the unwashed, they went from title challengers to rock bottom in a year, with that muppett Kenny Sheilds, we are that bad. Hell knows what Miller brings to party, he just sits there with his armed folded, and what will the BOD do, well, if they sack Murray, they will appoint him. Miller asked for this role, he got it and he is appalling, Craig asked for the role as did Teale. Its obvious our BOD have no clue who to appoint. Since Danny, who won back to back promos and has tremendous work ethic, when we play them in two weeks its a 6 pointer and I hate to say it, but we are not favs.

Whilst I hear what Leikie says, it is a point, but not the main point. Murray is our 3rd Manager in 15 months, in that time, we lost first 5 without Scoring , we then got relegated with a complete novice at the helm, and now Murray is showing he is out of his depth also. Its not rocket science, we are unfit, no tactics and losers in mentality, Hope I am wrong but I see Peterhead on fixtures next year at this rate

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What is interesting, though, is when you think of the attention Tommy Craig attracted from hacks and 'pundits'. From an earlier stage in the season last year, his position was being discussed very widely, and he had very few, if any, allies. They really put the boot in - not without justification, it has to be said.

I appreciate that the difference this year might well be down to the fact that we are no longer a top flight club, but I am still quite surprised at how little notice has been paid of Murray's wretched tenure to date. He has got off lightly so far.

ETA: is he possibly avoiding the full glare on account of being a 'younger manager', and being cut a bit of slack as a result?

I think Craig annoyed the journalists by walking out of interviews and telling them not to ask him certain things. You'll get a harder time if you upset the journalists than upsetting the fans.

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I think Craig annoyed the journalists by walking out of interviews and telling them not to ask him certain things. You'll get a harder time if you upset the journalists than upsetting the fans.

Aye, that's true enough. His throwing the mic down in a strop antics set the tone very early on, and the general belligerent manner wouldn't have won him many fans in the press and media.

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Well summed up by Leckie, hard to argue with any of it.

A guy I work with is a big Dumbarton fan, he was making the point of why sack Murray now as we won't get relegated and he will sort it out enough to beat Alloa Dumbarton Morton etc and finish mid table and then make a promotion charge next season. I told him when he sees us play in 2 weeks time he'll no longer think we are too good to go down!

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Part of the problem with Murray is that we still have Danny Lennon fresh in our mind - whether you thought it was time for him to go or wanted him to say its fair to say that he fully respected the fans and that was mutual, very similar to Fitzy in that respect.

Id love to see Murray turn it around but the football this year is even more boring than last year with arguably a better squad in a poorer division.

I dont know who the answer is - we are in freefall.

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