norrie82 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Can't believe we are actually heading to Dumbarton yes Dumbarton and it's a big deal that we win. We had left Diddy teams like these behind and the decline that's set in from the top down is embarrassing. The manager is a joke and if he can't beat a part time team tomorrow please somebody grow a pair and sack this jester. Quote
Kendo Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Can't believe we are actually heading to Dumbarton yes Dumbarton and it's a big deal that we win. We had left Diddy teams like these behind and the decline that's set in from the top down is embarrassing. The manager is a joke and if he can't beat a part time team tomorrow please somebody grow a pair and sack this jester. You can't believe it? You should have listened to elvis he predicted this all along. Quote
stripey Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Ian Murray should have been sacked long ago, as it was clear the man was not up to the job, perhaps the BOD,s due to financial constraints could not. Not being ITK with the clubs finances whether this was the case or not I cannot comment. Quote
scottd Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 We all know how shit things are right now. Also I don't believe any of us are happy about it. Quote
norrie82 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 I felt that this match merited a new thread. I expect a 2-0 win tomorrow bit really it isn't enough. We shouldn't be targeting our only points v Dumbarton and alloa etc. We should be beating morton,Raith and Queens. Simply a must win tomorrow as anything else will see us drop to 9th. Quote
norrie82 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 And at that point how can you let it go on Quote
Sergie's no1 fan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Will be even sadder if we lose. It feels like we have travelled back 2 decades to the mid 90's when the club was on its knees relying on a shed load of young players. We don't have a devine right to come down here and pump any team. Think a few of our players (and some fans) have a bit of a culture shock. Every team in this division (apart from us) have been really well drilled and organised. It was going to take time for the manager to adjust to full time, I believe he underestimated the size of the task here, the players have underestimated the opposition pretty much every week, apart from Rangers where we gave them 2 decent games. I haven't been blown away by the quality in the division but you need to roll up the sleeves and earn 3 points week in week out. Quote
norrie82 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 Yes we have no right. We do however have the right to believe we can beat part time teams Quote
Sergie's no1 fan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Yes we have no right. We do however have the right to believe we can beat part time teams We should have the right to believe we can beat them but I wouldn't back us against East Stirling just now. Dumbarton will likely have a defensive partnership of Darren Barr and Frazer Wright, they will be tough to crack. Rangers struggled to break them down at Ibrox the other week, this games not a gimmy. I think there is a huge difference between part time teams now and even 10 years ago when we were last in this division. Sports scientists, new fitness regimes ect mean the gap in fitness between full time teams and part time teams has shortened by some distance. Them having a game midweek and us having a 2 week break should take its toll but nothing is guaranteed. Quote
TopCat Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Falling over ourselves to get all of the misery right. Quote
scottd Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Falling over ourselves to get all of the misery right. Indeed. It would be nice if people would wait for us to lose before they unleash the doom. Quote
class of 76-77 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Indeed. It would be nice if people would wait for us to lose before they unleash the doom.To be fair there has been absolutely nothing to be positive about this season. Murray had delivered a team who leak soft goals week in week out, and a forward line who couldn't score in a brothel. Oh and a midfield who get overrun week in week out. Apart from this we should be fine as Murray said we're not far from where he wants us to be. Quote
scottd Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 To be fair there has been absolutely nothing to be positive about this season. Murray had delivered a team who leak soft goals week in week out, and a forward line who couldn't score in a brothel. Oh and a midfield who get overrun week in week out. Apart from this we should be fine as Murray said we're not far from where he wants us to be. You're absolutely correct but I don't feel that relentless predictive negativity is getting anyone anywhere. Quote
class of 76-77 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 You're absolutely correct but I don't feel that relentless predictive negativity is getting anyone anywhere. Fair comment bud, for all my moaning I'll still be there tomorrow lending my support to the team. We desperately need a win, anything less and it could well be the final nail in Murray's coffin. Quote
lovestreet Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Big game for us one we need to win,think it will be a battle with us,Dumarton and Alloa for the relegation/play off spots Quote
norrie82 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Posted December 12, 2015 Lose this scottd and you'll see negativity. This season a club just relegated from the top league hasn't competed with anyone. Don't give me the bullshit it's too many young players. Murray did have a budget he did supposedly know this division but so far he has been a disaster. If he can't win at Dumbarton he shouldn't be manager and I firmly believe most saints fans are of the same opinion. My main point is that it's so sad that we are practically fretting over a big game at Dumbarton? We should be professional and our training and superior skill should shine through. If we lose this we will go 9th which is beyond a bloody joke and it would also put us in danger of another relegation. I expect a 2-0 win Quote
shull Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Need Elvis & JJ on here to cheer us aw up. Quote
Ayrshire Saints Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Lose this scottd and you'll see negativity. This season a club just relegated from the top league hasn't competed with anyone. Don't give me the bullshit it's too many young players. Murray did have a budget he did supposedly know this division but so far he has been a disaster. If he can't win at Dumbarton he shouldn't be manager and I firmly believe most saints fans are of the same opinion. My main point is that it's so sad that we are practically fretting over a big game at Dumbarton? We should be professional and our training and superior skill should shine through. If we lose this we will go 9th which is beyond a bloody joke and it would also put us in danger of another relegation. I expect a 2-0 win Im going today and hoping for a win but certainly nit expecting one. What makes you think based on form this season we are going to beat any team by 2 goals. Id be delighted in our current plight just to see a win of any sorts but this will be a mighty hard game against a team in form. Your expectations are part of the current problem. Yes we should be capable of winning a game like this but do I expect it, no I don't. Quote
insaintee Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 To be fair there has been absolutely nothing to be positive about this season. Murray had delivered a team who leak soft goals week in week out, and a forward line who couldn't score in a brothel. Oh and a midfield who get overrun week in week out. Apart from this we should be fine as Murray said we're not far from where he wants us to be. 5th? Quote
norrie82 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Posted December 12, 2015 I think 2-0 today. Better players than them who will win this but probably lose next week such is our way Quote
saintnextlifetime Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 Indeed. It would be nice if people would wait for us to lose before they unleash the doom. Indeed , we still have a state of the art stadium and Ralston . Oh and the scoreboard at the Paisley Arena. .and the Dome and the big f**k-off carpark and the electronic turnstiles . . Quote
norrie82 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Posted December 12, 2015 So Ayrshire saint I should not expect to beat Dumbarton? If not why not? Does that not show you how bad we are. Unbelievable Quote
shull Posted December 12, 2015 Report Posted December 12, 2015 If we lose, could somebody escort Norrie hame. Make sure he diverts via the Clyde Tunnel instead of the normal way over the Bridge. We wid miss him. Quote
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