dr rotund Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 After watching yet another inept performance last night it is clear we need almost a whole team of new players. Of course that is unrealistic and it will take 2 or 3 seasons to do this. I think we need at least 3 new signings in this transfer window, players who will add a bit of fight and steel to the team, not lightweights like Mcmullan and Agnew. Our lack of fitness is also appalling but Rae needs a pre season to fix that. The remainder of this season is almost certainly about securing safety in the championship with a view to a promotion push next season. Let's start that process now with some fresh blood, i hope for our (the fans) sake that the BOD fund this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Seemingly, bears also defecate in areas where trees are abundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Seemingly, bears also defecate in areas where trees are abundant. You mean Rangers supporters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Seemingly, bears also defecate in areas where trees are abundant. Indeed. . . . .and in other news, it has now been revealed that, the Pope is indeed a Roman Catholic. . . .who would have thunk it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 After watching yet another inept performance last night it is clear we need almost a whole team of new players. Of course that is unrealistic and it will take 2 or 3 seasons to do this. I think we need at least 3 new signings in this transfer window, players who will add a bit of fight and steel to the team, not lightweights like Mcmullan and Agnew. Our lack of fitness is also appalling but Rae needs a pre season to fix that. The remainder of this season is almost certainly about securing safety in the championship with a view to a promotion push next season. Let's start that process now with some fresh blood, i hope for our (the fans) sake that the BOD fund this. I would agree. Out of our current squad who would you keep? Possibly Webster, Naismith, Mallan, Gallagher and Goodwin. The rest can get to f**k. Not including Shankland - he's decent but isn't ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) There is posts about Mallan being sold in Jan, Our whole midfield is not good enough including Mallan. He cant tackle, Out of 90mins you see him doing well in about 20 mins drifts in and out of games, I know he's still a youngster and he's scored a few decent goals, But he is no were near the finished article, As for Agnew, Carswell and McMullan, don't think I need to say much, Edited January 9, 2016 by santaponsasaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 There is posts about Mallan being sold in Jan, Our whole midfield is not good enough including Mallan. He cant tackle, Out of 90mins you see him doing well in about 20 mins drifts in and out of games, I know he's still a youngster and he's scored a few decent goals, But he is no were near the finished article, As for Agnew, Carswell and McMullan, don't think I need to say much, Is anyone the finished article at 19? Nope. This is Mallan's first full season in senior football and he's our top scorer from midfield with 6 goals. He's not doing badly at all. On the other hand Agnew is a terrible footballer and should never play for us again. I said that after the Dumbarton game and sadly he's had 3 more hopeless performances since then. Not sure how many more it will take for him to get mutually consented. We badly need Goodwin back to give a bit of steel to the midfield and to give Mallan more freedom to go forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 There is posts about Mallan being sold in Jan, Our whole midfield is not good enough including Mallan. He cant tackle, Out of 90mins you see him doing well in about 20 mins drifts in and out of games, I know he's still a youngster and he's scored a few decent goals, But he is no were near the finished article, As for Agnew, Carswell and McMullan, don't think I need to say much, I'd keep Mallan the rest just aren't doing it. Mallan would flourish with a couple of experienced guys in there with him whereas we are looking to him to be the main man at the moment. Webster isn't providing what we thought he would and Langfield has had some dodgy moments too but i'd agree the midfield is the biggest worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) I'd give the new manager time to lift the morale in the squad, while getting 3 or 4 new faces in to help with this. Last night we played a team who haven't lost a game since October - not an easy proposition. Rae will want to make us hard to beat, in the first instance, which we were for a long spell last night. We undoubtedly need more experience and physicality in the midfield, which is where he should be looking to strengthen most. Too lightweight in the main, with not enough quality. Edited January 9, 2016 by Soctty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Indeed. . . . .and in other news, it has now been revealed that, the Pope is indeed a Roman Catholic. . . .who would have thunk it. . Who's your source re this revelation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Last night we played a team who haven't lost a game since Saturday - not an easy proposition. Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Clearly, Murray could not select the kind of professional footballer needed at this level. Whilst a few teams might have a passenger, a Gow if you like, we clearly have too many passengers, guys who are simply not professional which means, even decent guys like Webster , start to struggle and look pish too . . For years, guys on here have been quick to criticize guys like Dorman for shying away from tackles or not being good enough for us . Now we have a bunch of players who simply are not good enough and are unlikely to ever play as a decent team anytime soon . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Clearly, Murray could not select the kind of professional footballer needed at this level. Whilst a few teams might have a passenger, a Gow if you like, we clearly have too many passengers, guys who are simply not professional which means, even decent guys like Webster , start to struggle and look pish too . . For years, guys on here have been quick to criticize guys like Dorman for shying away from tackles or not being good enough for us . Now we have a bunch of players who simply are not good enough and are unlikely to ever play as a decent team anytime soon . . From now on I shall refer to any wasters in the team as "a Gow" . Last night McMullan was "a Gow". You are quite correct in your initial assertion. I sat there last night and looked at our midfield and thought, "What a lot of shite Murray left us with". We need two midfielders. One defensive and one creative. Anything less and we're f**ked. A striker would be nice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 From now on I shall refer to any wasters in the team as "a Gow" . Last night McMullan was "a Gow". You are quite correct in your initial assertion. I sat there last night and looked at our midfield and thought, "What a lot of shite Murray left us with". We need two midfielders. One defensive and one creative. Anything less and we're f**ked. A striker would be nice too. And with Santa polarized for another year we will struggle to fill that january list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Is anyone the finished article at 19? Nope. This is Mallan's first full season in senior football and he's our top scorer from midfield with 6 goals. He's not doing badly at all. On the other hand Agnew is a terrible footballer and should never play for us again. I said that after the Dumbarton game and sadly he's had 3 more hopeless performances since then. Not sure how many more it will take for him to get mutually consented. We badly need Goodwin back to give a bit of steel to the midfield and to give Mallan more freedom to go forward. I don't think Mallan has got what it takes to play at a higher level TC. He's certainly nowhere near ready for a move anywhere. He's too lightweight, too soft. Even comparing him to McGinn or McLean leaves him looking like a pale shadow. He's way behind others in the same age group as him who are stuck in Scotland, players like Scott Allan or Sam Nicholson - Allan wasn't good enough for the second tier in England and Nicholson by his own admission is nowhere near ready to move on. The temptation to cash in on any offer at all is quite obvious, but what club in Scotland is struggling to the extent that Mallan would be seen as an improvement to their midfield worth paying for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Who's your source re this revelation? Ian from Paisley. .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I don't think Mallan has got what it takes to play at a higher level TC. He's certainly nowhere near ready for a move anywhere. He's too lightweight, too soft. Even comparing him to McGinn or McLean leaves him looking like a pale shadow. He's way behind others in the same age group as him who are stuck in Scotland, players like Scott Allan or Sam Nicholson - Allan wasn't good enough for the second tier in England and Nicholson by his own admission is nowhere near ready to move on. The temptation to cash in on any offer at all is quite obvious, but what club in Scotland is struggling to the extent that Mallan would be seen as an improvement to their midfield worth paying for? Same age group? Allan is 24 and Mallan is 19! Can't say I know much about Nicholson, but he's also more than a year older than Mallan. Mallan is better than McLean was at this age IMO. He's already in the Scotland u21 squad despite being eligible for the 19's, so he's rated at international level too. He's had a tremendous first year in senior football in a struggling side. Goal of the season in Scotland and in double figures from midfield. If he keeps developing at his current rate I'm sure he will play at a higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'd keep Mallan the rest just aren't doing it. Mallan would flourish with a couple of experienced guys in there with him whereas we are looking to him to be the main man at the moment. Webster isn't providing what we thought he would and Langfield has had some dodgy moments too but i'd agree the midfield is the biggest worry. I'm not saying he's a bad player, not for a minute, What am saying he is a luxury in the currant team, We need big midfield player plus maybe Goody back, We need players to protect him, But the currant midfielders we have are not good enough, But I think hopefully Mr Rae will know this and try to put it right, But we have been signing midgets for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm not saying he's a bad player, not for a minute, What am saying he is a luxury in the currant team, We need big midfield player plus maybe Goody back, We need players to protect him, But the currant midfielders we have are not good enough, But I think hopefully Mr Rae will know this and try to put it right, But we have been signing midgets for years You've made a right currant of yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsbury Bud Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Mallan certainly isn't the problem, he's a superb prospect. The observation that he drifts in games is valid of the entire side. Returning to the original post, I don't think our defence is too bad, we just do too much of it and often in deep positions. Agnew hasn't worked out and both parties should acknowledge this and find an amicable way to part, Gow must be moved on; if he's not bad for team morale he's terrible for fan morale even if we lose some modest money shifting him is the right decision. Where we'll find combative midfielders right now (other than return of Goody) I don't know but there must be one or two around. Edited January 9, 2016 by Bloomsbury Bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Good thread, who will be the 1st to ruin it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 You've made a right currant of yourself! Your turn to be spelling and grammar police Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) You've made a right currant of yourself! Come on Paul. He's just raisin the issue. Edited January 9, 2016 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Same age group? Allan is 24 and Mallan is 19! Can't say I know much about Nicholson, but he's also more than a year older than Mallan. Mallan is better than McLean was at this age IMO. He's already in the Scotland u21 squad despite being eligible for the 19's, so he's rated at international level too. He's had a tremendous first year in senior football in a struggling side. Goal of the season in Scotland and in double figures from midfield. If he keeps developing at his current rate I'm sure he will play at a higher level. Yeah Allan is older, but he wasn't when he headed to West Brom and never got a game. He was still better than Mallan then though. He's just not ready TC - nowhere near it. He probably shouldn't even be a first team regular at St Mirren at this stage in his career and probably wouldn't have been even in the side of 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yeah Allan is older, but he wasn't when he headed to West Brom and never got a game. He was still better than Mallan then though. He's just not ready TC - nowhere near it. He probably shouldn't even be a first team regular at St Mirren at this stage in his career and probably wouldn't have been even in the side of 2 years ago. I'm not saying he should move to England I don't really get the comparison with Allan. He played 8 games for United before moving down south. As for him not being a first team regular, I dread to think where we would be without him. Stunning goal at Livi to win us a vital 3 points and a superb free kick at Kirkcaldy to get us a point. Six goals from midfield in half a season in a rubbish team. If that's him when he's 'not ready', I'm looking forward to seeing how good he is when he is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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