Kirkie Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes fair comment mate. I think the club needs to look at the visiting support issue. Closing the North and letting the smaller supports into W6 and W7 has pissed off a lot of punters in the West. Since these two areas are already "unreserved" for that very reason maybe the best option is to always re-locate smaller away supports into the North corner of the main stand and leave W6 and W7 as unreserved seating areas on a first come first served basis on matchday. Understand that if Rangers & Hibs come then those two areas would be given up but the other larger supports like Falkirk and Morton can easily be accommodated in the North. So for 7 out of 9 games we could offer unreserved seating in the West without impacting on any season ticket holders at all. Using this bring a buddie scheme any ST holder bringing pals could happily sit with them in W6 and W7, and the QoS support accommodated in the North end of the Main Stand. But I like my ST seat at the north end of the Main Stand! Well, when I say "like", I mean that it's better than most of the remaining unreserved seats if I was shunted to the other end. It also might be an issue that you've only got two relatively small sections at each end of the Main Stand before the "premium", slightly padded seating starts. I buy a ST for me and my boy purely for convenience so that I don't need to buy tickets for every game. If that was for unreserved seating, I'd be happy enough since there would generally be plenty reasonable seats to go around, particularly if you pitch up before 5 to 3! As it is, there are very few seats around me that aren't reserved for ST holders so on the odd occasion that a mate comes along, it's difficult to get seats together. I think unreserved seating would help the atmosphere and would make it more attractive for people to bring mates along. The main thing that would help though is a decent team on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 They can't segregate the main stand hence why it's never used for this purpose only west stand had this facility hence why it's used for this purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 A more logical idea for starters would be that we fill out the west stand and then use a section of the north as an over spill, giving QOTS say half of the north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 They can't segregate the main stand hence why it's never used for this purpose only west stand had this facility hence why it's used for this purpose Why? The main stand is effectively cut in two. There is no access between the 2 halves under the stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 A more logical idea for starters would be that we fill out the west stand and then use a section of the north as an over spill, giving QOTS say half of the north. Are there 2 sets of 'facilities' under the end stands? If not, then its not possible to segregate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes fair comment mate. I think the club needs to look at the visiting support issue. Closing the North and letting the smaller supports into W6 and W7 has pissed off a lot of punters in the West. Since these two areas are already "unreserved" for that very reason maybe the best option is to always re-locate smaller away supports into the North corner of the main stand and leave W6 and W7 as unreserved seating areas on a first come first served basis on matchday. Understand that if Rangers & Hibs come then those two areas would be given up but the other larger supports like Falkirk and Morton can easily be accommodated in the North. So for 7 out of 9 games we could offer unreserved seating in the West without impacting on any season ticket holders at all. Using this bring a buddie scheme any ST holder bringing pals could happily sit with them in W6 and W7, and the QoS support accommodated in the North end of the Main Stand. That doesn't make sense to me either. If the club don't want to open up one stand, why not just scrap segregation and let the QoS fans fill the thousands of empty seats around the stadium. It's not as though there has been a tradition problem between the fans of both clubs. The premise of the promotion is utterly ridiculous though. Who the hell brings a mate to the game and then tells them outside the stadium that they are going to have to sit in another building on their own? Yet that's exactly what the club is suggesting people do here. Tony Fitzpatrick is one of my biggest heroes and I'm delighted to see him back in senior football but if this the standard of decision making he's going to be coming away with he's going to be an absolute disaster as CEO. It looks to me like they've over thought the whole promotion. Motherwell run similar schemes every season and they have never told fans brining their friends that they'll need to split at the gate and enter into different stands. Here we're talking about a three quarter empty stadium, almost 6,000 empty seats, and yet because of the reserved seating problem caused by the expectations of season ticket holders - many of whom took advantage of their free child season ticket with each adult season ticket just to reserve seats around them (seats that have remained empty all season long) - they look like they've completely lost the plot with one of the most irrational marketing decisions I've ever seen made at a Scottish Football Ground. Hopefully someone will see sense and fix this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 they look like they've completely lost the plot with one of the most irrational marketing decisions I've ever seen made at a Scottish Football Ground. Hopefully someone will see sense and fix this nonsense. It's not like you to blow things completely out of proportion and put a hugely negative slant on it. Oh, wait.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The Club have made a total arse of it. There is no positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The Club have made a total arse of it. There is no positive. That's not true at all. The positives are that the club are trying to do something to encourage new fans to come along and that they are offering cheap tickets to allow them to do that. The implementation of that plan might not be particularly good, but that doesn't take away the positive intention. To label it "one of the most irrational marketing decisions I've ever seen made at a Scottish Football Ground" is a ridiculous statement to make. I think all that is required to fix it is that season ticket holders, regardless of their seat, should be able to access the North Stand with their bring along pals on this particular game and that there is no reserved seating in the North Stand. Problem solved. It's really not that difficult to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 If Clubs in Scotland had a clue what they are doing they would all get together and come up with... PART TIME FOR ALL RESERVE FOOTBALL 70 Quid Season Ticket £5 entry fee at Gate for Adults and a quid for weans. We really are getting treated like shite presently. We are a so called professional Club who have had a f**king mumbling Tannoy System for 6 years. Joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) That's not true at all. The positives are that the club are trying to do something to encourage new fans to come along and that they are offering cheap tickets to allow them to do that. The implementation of that plan might not be particularly good, but that doesn't take away the positive intention. To label it "one of the most irrational marketing decisions I've ever seen made at a Scottish Football Ground" is a ridiculous statement to make. I think all that is required to fix it is that season ticket holders, regardless of their seat, should be able to access the North Stand with their bring along pals on this particular game and that there is no reserved seating in the North Stand. Problem solved. It's really not that difficult to fix. Did nobody in authority read the statement yesterday before it was posted? f**king laughable. Edited February 24, 2016 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 That's not true at all. The positives are that the club are trying to do something to encourage new fans to come along and that they are offering cheap tickets to allow them to do that. The implementation of that plan might not be particularly good, but that doesn't take away the positive intention. To label it "one of the most irrational marketing decisions I've ever seen made at a Scottish Football Ground" is a ridiculous statement to make. I think all that is required to fix it is that season ticket holders, regardless of their seat, should be able to access the North Stand with their bring along pals on this particular game and that there is no reserved seating in the North Stand. Problem solved. It's really not that difficult to fix. The fact there was a half baked idea made public and as you say needs fixing shows a level of amateurism that feeds the belief we are a MIckey Mouse club. If many forum members can see the flaws, and I don't include the "criticise for the sake of it" team, why can't the person/people responsible within the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The fact there was a half baked idea made public and as you say needs fixing shows a level of amateurism that feeds the belief we are a MIckey Mouse club. If many forum members can see the flaws, and I don't include the "criticise for the sake of it" team, why can't the person/people responsible within the club? I can't really answer that mate. No idea who made the decision or how it was thought through. Personally speaking I can't see it being much of a success unless it is "fixed". It's absurd that people would bring pals along to a game and then not sit with them. Absolutely no disagreement from me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The fact there was a half baked idea made public and as you say needs fixing shows a level of amateurism that feeds the belief we are a MIckey Mouse club. If many forum members can see the flaws, and I don't include the "criticise for the sake of it" team, why can't the person/people responsible within the club? If they can see the flaws, then it's not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Invite your worst enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The club need to consult the people who matter when trying to develop initiatives such as this - the supporters. In these days of social media and online forums, there really isn't any excuse for not doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The club need to consult the people who matter when trying to develop initiatives such as this - the supporters. In these days of social media and online forums, there really isn't any excuse for not doing so. Aye, that'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Any offer needs to be available to ALL fans. Not just those with mates. Its discriminates against faraway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Any offer needs to be available to ALL fans. Not just those with mates. Its discriminates against faraway. Thanks pal. PS See ye on 12th March. Edited February 24, 2016 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Invite your worst enemy. IOBS has invited faraway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 IOBS has invited faraway. Reported......................no sure why, just reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Invite your worst enemy. Want to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Reported......................no sure why, just reported. You could sit with Pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Want to come? Yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 You could sit with Pod Only if he brings his friend....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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