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Pretty sure the club could use a portion of the 30k / 45k / 60k / 70k / one million quid raised by allowing them the stand to invest in a supply of cans of lighter fuel and razor blades to remove the fcuking things. Cos' that's how you remove those hard-to-remove stickers, such as the ones businesses slap on your car window if you park illegally.... Pick off as much of the sticker as you can. Soak the remainder with lighter fuel, absolutely drench it - then, use masking tape to cover half of a razor blade, use the blade as a mini 'wallpaper scraper' to work off the residual sticker. Apply more lighter fuel as required as you go. Wipe seat clean with a bit of kitchen roll once offending sticker fully removed.

Here to help. I'm sure our BoD will be all over it in jig time.

Reasonably sure this post goes a little way to disproving the Oaksoft gobshite's claim that I provide little of substance to any thread on here. Allied to my tips on how to safely wash polyester football shirts... I'm on a roll.

Andrex have puppies on a roll.

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I'd think a specific seat is a police requirement for crowd control and to help identify trouble makers as most seated events from concerts to other sports are seat specific. It might not be too big a problem at our ground but could imagine a group of drunks turning up with 5 minutes to go and all trying to get a seat together at Tynecastle, Pittodrie or Hampden.

Yet fans aren't made to sit in their specific seat. Stewards don't check tickets. No one is escorted to their seat. Nothing. Indeed the absurd nature of what is done is countless seats are reserved that sit empty all season long

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The skinny is the board yet again are taking the only people who put money into SMFC without ever.... Expecting it back, up the ronson lighter... And yet again wr are taking it... They must be laughing their socks off at the cash cow that is a saints fan!

they can actually do what they want,and we will not only give them more money, but may actually buy them out too.

Somebody had to pay for that Fans Council bar, turns out it was families, children and the Panda club... I Suspect here will be no bragging about how many of us sign up for season tickets next time as it drops off yet again...

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I have sat in Celtic Park, Falkirk Stadium and New Douglas Park watching St Mirren without problems. There were no problems because I wore no colours, never let on I was a Saints fan, never shouted or cheered for us, nor did I shout against anyone in the home team. It was brutal. Accies fans wanted their players to break one of our defenders legs, Hugh Murray received abuse I have only heard us dish out to Tokely, and despite playing for them, Sellik fans gave Goodwin abuse that even Tokely never received.

As enjoyable soccer experiences go, it was about as enjoyable as eating your own shite with a teaspoon while listening to Adele at Glastonbury on loop.

One or two of us as individuals in enemy territory using a free ST or sonething is one matter, let's try fully unsegregated stadiums at Aberdeen v Rangers next season, the return of the 'Old Firm' derby, Ajax v Feyenoord or Liverpool v Man Utd.

Forums are indeed all about opinions, each to their own, but sorry, talk (DickoDisney time again) of unsegregated stadiums is laughable. A joke. Ain't happening!

Oh FFS.

Do away with segregation and you'd quickly find that those Hamilton Accies fans wouldn't dare encourage anyone to break an opponents leg for fear of having a fist shoved down his throat? That's the point - when you segregate you create an environment where abuse flourishes whilst encouragement doesn't. A ground full of fans who scream hateful abuse all match long, or a stadium where two sets of supporters encourage their team with proper support. I know where i'd rather take my kids - although it seems you prefer the hate filled poisonous arena where microphones stationed above the West Stand can clearly pick up the sound of a couple of arsehole loud mouth St Mirren fans who lack the football knowledge to shout anything meaningful and who just scream obscenities and abuse.

Anyway we're wildly off topic.

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I think we could abandon segregation if Raith Rovers, Falkirk & even Hibs ever needed extra tickets for a match at St Mirren park.

I agree, we shouldn't need segregation at all.

I don't know of anywhere else where giving up an entire 'home stand' to enable the club to make a few extra quid would be thought as a good idea. Only in Scotland eh.

similarly to now, some St Mirren fans would have been outraged but like this thread, you have some who accept the situation, some who oppose & some who think it is the best thing since sliced bread.

It is a sad indication of Scottish football that so many believe Rangers and Celtic money is needed to keep it afloat. The BoD's current decision supports that suggestion.

We all know though, if the English League opened it's arms, the pair of them would be off like a shot without a backwards glance for Scottish football unless there was something in it for them like putting in a reserve team to keep their hordes happy.

Scottish football is a busted flush.

I'm not so sure Kombi. Clubs everywhere change their away ticket allocation to try to meet demand and maximise revenue. At Sunderland for example they moved their away end from behind one goal to behind another. They did so after the police suggested that away supporters buses would be better being parked on the grass next to the Aquatic Centre than in a narrow street behind industrial units on the other side. Even then Sunderland will change what constitutes as the "away" end depending on demand for tickets. For example when Sunderland played Manchester United last season they were given whole Strongbow Upper in the North Stand. When I went back to watch Sunderland v Everton Sunderland fans took over half of the Strongbow Upper and Everton had a far smaller area to accommodate their fans in.

I checked with my son too when watching the Manchester derby on TV this afternoon. A few weeks ago he was in the Etihad where Leicester City fans had taken all three tiers behind that goal and they had filled it. He took pictures of the scenes before and after the game and it's very clear. Today Manchester United fans had a far smaller section in what looked like just over half the lower tier. The number of seats handed over to Leicester would have far outweighed the 1,200 we're talking about here. Presumably the reason for the difference would be that more Manchester City fans wanted to match the Manchester derby but City weren't slow in letting Leicester fill the demand shortfall amongst their own fans when the game wasn't deemed so attractive.

That said I won't deny your second point but it's not exclusive to the St Mirren boardroom. Many directors and chairmen believe completely and utterly that we need a strong Rangers and Celtic for the game in Scotland to survive financially. You would presume those guys know their clubs finances better than anyone else. What would worry me more is the fact that with perhaps the exception of Anne Budge, not one of those chairmen and board members appears to have come up with a single idea as to how to make their club more attractive to their local communities so as to boost their own revenues through their own support rather than hanker with this over reliance on Scotlands "big two".

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Since we've sold our soul to the devil and nothing's going to change......how about this-

At full time sevco leave the field immediately and leave the Saints players and Fans a bit of time to say goodbye.5 mins would do it then the Saints go inside,Saints Fans leave the ground and who gives a ????'s what happens after that.

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Oh FFS.

Do away with segregation and you'd quickly find that those Hamilton Accies fans wouldn't dare encourage anyone to break an opponents leg for fear of having a fist shoved down his throat? That's the point - when you segregate you create an environment where abuse flourishes whilst encouragement doesn't. A ground full of fans who scream hateful abuse all match long, or a stadium where two sets of supporters encourage their team with proper support. I know where i'd rather take my kids - although it seems you prefer the hate filled poisonous arena where microphones stationed above the West Stand can clearly pick up the sound of a couple of arsehole loud mouth St Mirren fans who lack the football knowledge to shout anything meaningful and who just scream obscenities and abuse.

Anyway we're wildly off topic.

The planet you inhabit is truly a weird and wonderful place. Meanwhile in the real world, a family sit down in the unsegregated DickoDome to watch St Mirren v Sevco in a Scottish Championship match this season. In come three Sevconians with King Billy scarves and a colourful repetoire of language involving Jim Goodwin, the country of his birth, and his parentage / religion.. and promptly park their bigoted arses right next to the Saints supporting family.

In DickoLand, this poses no issues.

Meanwhile.... back once more in the real world....

You keep cracking on though. You're funny. When you're not lying on various threads, spreading mis-information or merely talking complete and utter shite that is.

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The planet you inhabit is truly a weird and wonderful place. Meanwhile in the real world, a family sit down in the unsegregated DickoDome to watch St Mirren v Sevco in a Scottish Championship match this season. In come three Sevconians with King Billy scarves and a colourful repetoire of language involving Jim Goodwin, the country of his birth, and his parentage / religion.. and promptly park their bigoted arses right next to the Saints supporting family.

In DickoLand, this poses no issues.

Meanwhile.... back once more in the real world....

You keep cracking on though. You're funny. When you're not lying on various threads, spreading mis-information or merely talking complete and utter shite that is.

I haven't been to many Sevco matches but in their previous guise as Rangers every St Mirren v Rangers match would see at least a few Rangers fans sitting within punching distance. Every single one of those occasions passed off without major incident except perhaps from the odd angry St Mirren fans screeching at them for being in the wrong end.

I was at Ibrox first game of the season where a thin line of stewards...many female....was enough to stop the rampaging hordes from getting through segregation to batter f**k out each other. That thin line was also deemed protection enough to scream vile abuse both ways across that divide. Its a shame it terrifies you but most normal people can see it for what it is.

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Stuart,

There is a very clear difference between relocating season ticket holders & giving up an entire "home" stand to a fluctuating demand for the away allocation of tickets.

Of course, more tickets will be asked for by clubs with larger travelling supports but i dont think anyone anywhere gets shifted to do this.

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This entire fiasco is simply the result of the clubs contuinuing woes, failing on the park has concequences such as this. Money talks, the rest, well tough shit. Grasping for every bit of coinage is the rule, cash is king, everything else is peripheral

You see it at Kilmarnock, watch as two stands at opposite ends of a miserable ground are swollen by bigited glory hunting mental defectives. Its a great spectacle eh 1eye.gif

Next season will be even worse for the game, two large Glasgow clubs, the same league, sworn enemies, and column metres everywhere about what the players eat, where they eat it, what cars the players drive, who shouted what obscenity at who.

Scottish fitba, its coverage and its parochial press, its all pish.

This little St Mirren inconvenience is nothing at all in the larger scheme of footballing embarassments. What's the fuss, will by and large be the reaction of most to the Paisley outrage

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Stuart,

There is a very clear difference between relocating season ticket holders & giving up an entire "home" stand to a fluctuating demand for the away allocation of tickets.

Of course, more tickets will be asked for by clubs with larger travelling supports but i dont think anyone anywhere gets shifted to do this.

I couldn't tell you if season tickets were sold for those sections or not but if they were we're back to the absurdity of seat reservations.

St Mirren have handled this badly but the over reaction by some of here is laughable especially since some of those complaining loudest voted to treat "Rangers" differently to Gretna.

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This entire fiasco is simply the result of the clubs contuinuing woes, failing on the park has concequences such as this. Money talks, the rest, well tough shit. Grasping for every bit of coinage is the rule, cash is king, everything else is peripheral

You see it at Kilmarnock, watch as two stands at opposite ends of a miserable ground are swollen by bigited glory hunting mental defectives. Its a great spectacle eh 1eye.gif

Next season will be even worse for the game, two large Glasgow clubs, the same league, sworn enemies, and column metres everywhere about what the players eat, where they eat it, what cars the players drive, who shouted what obscenity at who.

Scottish fitba, its coverage and its parochial press, its all pish.

This little St Mirren inconvenience is nothing at all in the larger scheme of footballing embarassments. What's the fuss, will by and large be the reaction of most to the Paisley outrage

It is pish but it's that way because Chairmen, managers, players and fans all accept it. Next season you'll see managers start to say they are targeting third place. That says everything you need to know about Scottish football

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Without seat reservation the number of STs will fall dramatically. There are about ten of us who all have STs and all turn up at 2.55 for each game. If I then had tio find a seat at the front or whereever , especially at bigger games, I would have no reason to buy a season Ticket. Yes we get a discounted price but you only have to miss a handful of games for this to be nullified. If the Club wany my money up front I want to know where I am going to sit.Nothing absurd about it. We help with their budgeting we get a guarenteed seat,i

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Without seat reservation the number of STs will fall dramatically. There are about ten of us who all have STs and all turn up at 2.55 for each game. If I then had tio find a seat at the front or whereever , especially at bigger games, I would have no reason to buy a season Ticket. Yes we get a discounted price but you only have to miss a handful of games for this to be nullified. If the Club wany my money up front I want to know where I am going to sit.Nothing absurd about it. We help with their budgeting we get a guarenteed seat,i

This is why the club sell "Early Bird" ST's every season ,it helps with the cash flow during off season and you have to buy your ticket before a certain time to ensure you keep your current seat. If you could.nt get a certain seat why would you even bother with these "Early Bird" offers.

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Without seat reservation the number of STs will fall dramatically. There are about ten of us who all have STs and all turn up at 2.55 for each game. If I then had tio find a seat at the front or whereever , especially at bigger games, I would have no reason to buy a season Ticket. Yes we get a discounted price but you only have to miss a handful of games for this to be nullified. If the Club wany my money up front I want to know where I am going to sit.Nothing absurd about it. We help with their budgeting we get a guarenteed seat,i

Exactly!

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This is why the club sell "Early Bird" ST's every season ,it helps with the cash flow during off season and you have to buy your ticket before a certain time to ensure you keep your current seat. If you could.nt get a certain seat why would you even bother with these "Early Bird" offers.

Cause they are cheaper?

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What reason Stu are they cheaper?,My guess to help with cash flow during a time the club have no revenue from matchdays , So if the option of a certain seats wasn't part of the cheaper deal I don't think as many would take it up.Whats your opinion?

Well the benefit would be viewed differently by each customer I guess but if the main attraction of buying early is to reserve "your" existing seat why would the club feel compelled to also throw in a further discount?

I'm not arguing the importance of season ticket sales just the wisdom of ever having made them seat specific. It's obvious to anyone who goes that many season ticket holders aren't sitting in the seats they've reserved for themselves just by looking at the volume of reserved seats that sit empty at home games.

I also cannot really understand Guiness point about him and his mates. This is an 8000 capacity stadium that rarely gets quarter filled. If you take away seat reservations then there will be plenty of empty seats sitting in blocks for anyone coming in even well after kick off

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