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My own view is more about having sympathy for the Season ticket holders and people who would normally use that stand.

I would give them a voucher for 2 things as compensation ;

1) A pie & drink for this game

2) 1 home cup tie next season.

The masses that are allegedly going to boycott us wanting unprecedented demand ? Take their cash by all means , but not at any cost.ie upsetting our support.

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Imagine trying to get consensus on this or any decision!

Decisions should always be based on impact on business performance and service to customers based on values and principles that are embedded in the organisation.

These values are driven by the shareholders, owners and directors.

​I believe St Mirren should always be a Family and Community focused club with development of our club, employees and customer base founded on these values and principles.

With this in mind the decision is easy.

Keep the family stand as just that, for families, foster this locally and you build a community club.

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No he wasn't. Only Drew and I voted him down in the boardroom. And out of the stands - where I wasn't present - it was reported he won the backing of the St Mirren support there too.

I can understand why people want to rewrite history but it was only 4 years ago. It's very fresh in my mind, and there's wall to wall coverage on the internet of exactly what Gilmours views were at the time. He didn't hold back when criticising the SFL Chairmen for having the balls to do what the SPL didn't.

Dicko, here's your post where you claim to have voted the Chairman down in the boardroom, hence me using that term in an earlier post. Now, while no-one who was there and voted differently (to my knowledge at least) has ever expressed any issue with the way both you and Drew voted, Drew never bangs on about his vote somehow being a sign of him being one of only two voices in that room willing to stand tall, strong, and hold the high ground. Once again, it brings me back to the point I made earlier. If you continue to choose to mention the way you voted that night for the thousandth time, you should at least have the decency to mention that everyone else only voted differently from you and Drew when faced with the simple question - if you knew it meant staff redundancies at St Mirren FC, would you still want Rangers completely hammered.

Thanks.

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First post on this subject the reason being it does not bother me. It was also not hard to work out a large following from Rangers will desend on our stadium for this game as such I had visions of them getting into the home support which could still happen of course. However this messure taken by the board will go some way to try and control the situation . If we are going to make money off them then I would also give them a section of the west stand. I want to see our manager put together the best squad possible for next season. As for attending I will be there to support Saints like I would no matter who we play.

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I have often thought that the best way to contain OF fans in our stadium was to allocate them the North & South stands. That way, the constabulary/stewards could keep these taurags in for 15 minutes after a game. Shock, Horror, I find now they are being allocated their normal part of the West stand as well !!!

I will now seriously consider whether to renew my ST, or start following a local Junior team.

It's the disregard of St Mirren supporters in pursuit of an extra few bob that gets to me, and it is just a few bob!

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'fess up lads. What is really bothering you here? And would you really be quite so bothered if it was Hibs, Falkirk or Queen of the South in the same position? Would YOU really want to deny a father of one of those clubs the opportunity to take their son to see their team win promotion?

Yes this is the nub of it.

To knowingly allow an entire stand to sit empty stand denying 1600 people the chance to watch a big event for their club and denying our own club the chance to make some money is the sort of talk common amongst the sort of people who never have to deal with the financial consequences of such a decision.

To do it simply because it's another team is the sort of bigoted nastiness we accuse THEM of displaying.

Our fans are no better than theirs.

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Stuart... In the game you refer to as a rather odd defence of your patantly antagonistic stance... Can you explain why I was at the game and in the Love Street end with a Celtic supporting friend... but removed by the police and told to go to the North stand "for my own safety"... Only to be asked to budge up and let the Celtic fans in beside us out of the rain?

Rangers fans at both ends... What could go wrong?

Myself and a 15 year old were surrounded and jostled... Baited into a response they didn't get... By a group of these people two seasons ago... Simply because we were walking in the opposite direction with our heads don and they are aparantly people!

Don't be such a simplistic prick... It undermines the good points you make when not being bitter!

There's nothing more simplistic than taking the actions of a small group and extrapolating it to the entire support.

You are as guilty of it as Stuart here.

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Money is the only thing Gilmour and Co will listen to.

I am well within my rights.

I didn't say you weren't.

I'm saying it's a pathetic waste of time.

Seriously. What exactly are you expecting from doing this other than wasting your time and fluffing your damaged ego?

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In regard to your line beginning 'If funding and segregation are so important...' If the club know they can punt the regular South Stand clientele elsewhere for this game, why don't they relocate them permanently to a new dedicated section in the Main Stand? Completely close the South stand all season long, and completely close the North Stand (as they do) except for Hibs, Sevco, Falkirk and Morton games... Save a packet on stewarding, heating, leccy', and needlessly having catering open in a stand where the numbers involved each week can clearly be moved easily and without consultation.

Surely mothballing two un-neccessary stands most weeks in 'Division 1' could, over the course of a season, see Alex Rae's budget increase to the tune of another two dud loanees we've never heard of from Morecambe's reserves?

They should never have built 4 stands, 2 stands with a total capacity of 9000-ish would have been better and cheaper

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Money is the only thing Gilmour and Co will listen to.

So when the supporters take over the club, they're going to run it without money. Come on BuddieinEK, I thought you had more sense than that.

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So when the supporters take over the club, they're going to run it without money. Come on BuddieinEK, I thought you had more sense than that.

Where did I say that?

I am tired of Gilmour & Co not giving a stuff about the supporters.

If and when the supporters take over, they will have my support.

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So when the supporters take over the club, they're going to run it without money. Come on BuddieinEK, I thought you had more sense than that.

I think you are mischief-making, here.

If you are content with the current standard of PR and communication from within the club, I fear you have very low standards. Its strikes me that this is what BinEK is getting at (though i wouldn't seek to speak for him).

No-one is under any illusions as to the requirement for the club to maximise revenue streams, but not at any cost - specifically when it has the effect of alienating a substantial number of its core financial contributors. That is simply poor business practice.

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A very large proportion of the Celtic and the new Ran£ers support are scum .

Always have been and probably always will be .

They are the lunatic fringe .

I thought we ll had made a stand against the tax dodgers, as in GTF to League 2. Now we give them a stand, as the BOD will decide its their last big pay day for a while

Well BOD why the fk did you appoint such Muppets, give no money and watch us slide out the top division.

Seems far to little way to late to buy in to their so called points.

They don't deserve us

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I think you are mischief-making, here.

If you are content with the current standard of PR and communication from within the club, I fear you have very low standards. Its strikes me that this is what BinEK is getting at (though i wouldn't seek to speak for him).

No-one is under any illusions as to the requirement for the club to maximise revenue streams, but not at any cost - specifically when it has the effect of alienating a substantial number of its core financial contributors. That is simply poor business practice.

Not sure about substantial number Drew. Couple of dozen on here and how many of them are directly affected?

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I thought we ll had made a stand against the tax dodgers, as in GTF to League 2. Now we give them a stand, as the BOD will decide its their last big pay day for a while

Well BOD why the fk did you appoint such Muppets, give no money and watch us slide out the top division.

Seems far to little way to late to buy in to their so called points.

They don't deserve us

Where they f**k do you get this shite?

St Mirren didn't make a stand against anyone. The only reason "Rangers" were forced to start from the bottom of the pile was because the Chairmen of many of our smallest, poorest and worst supported clubs were prepared to put their business interests and their reputations on the line to uphold justice and fair play in Scottish Football and they did so against the demands of shite hawks like Stuart Gilmour and Martin Johnston.

St Mirren were actually more lilly livered than most because when other club chairmen addressed their fans at meetings they were told in no uncertain terms to vote "Rangers" out of the top leagues, and to try setting up an SPL2 at their peril. At St Mirren we actually had fans that fell into line with the Chairmans wishes and who sent him off to the SPL meeting with a mandate from the support to keep Rangers in the top flight so long as it preserved the ticket office ladies job. Gilmour even had the temerity to phone the press from his foreign holiday to cast aspersions on the SFL Chairmen he claimed had lost their marbles and who were going to put at least 5 SPL clubs into administration with St Mirren "very likely to be the 6th"!

Gilmour should have been hunted, castigated, vilified, ridiculed, despised, and tormented over his ridiculous behaviour at that time as a representative of the club.....but no. Time and time again any critics were told that Gilmour was a safe pair of hands who had saved the club in it's hour of need and who should be trusted completely and absolutely - to appoint Tommy Craig, Gary Teale and Iain Murray as manager I guess. rolleyes.gif

It's utterly bizarre that a decision to upgrade the seats of 200 season ticket holders for one match has led to so much gnashing and wailing when the previous crimes of the board were allowed to pass. The board can resolve this complaint very easily. Announce to all season ticket holders that their seat reservations for the Rangers game have now been cancelled; that the Panda Club and family section will be moved to the centre areas of the Main Stand and the extra cash raised will be earmarked for the facilities for disabled fans.

Edited by Stuart Dickson

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Some fans need to wake the f**k up, yeah its not ideal giving them the extra seats, but read what Tony says. This is a chance to make a good few quid that will help bring in a couple of players for next year and will cover the wages. Look at the long term picture.

Why not just see it as an opportunity to stick it to 4k scum fans and get a result to ruin their day. But guys saying they won't be back (bullshit, Blah Blah Blah) isn't acceptable, it doesn't make you seem like more of a fan as your disgusted, it shows you don't particularly care for the long term goals that this could help us achieve

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Some fans need to wake the f**k up, yeah its not ideal giving them the extra seats, but read what Tony says. This is a chance to make a good few quid that will help bring in a couple of players for next year and will cover the wages. Look at the long term picture.

Why not just see it as an opportunity to stick it to 4k scum fans and get a result to ruin their day. But guys saying they won't be back (bullshit, Blah Blah Blah) isn't acceptable, it doesn't make you seem like more of a fan as your disgusted, it shows you don't particularly care for the long term goals that this could help us achieve

Good few quid to help bring in a couple of players, cover the wages and help us achieve our long term goals? You do know we're talking about maybe 40k less associated added cost for accomodating an entirely new stand full of knuckledraggers?

The long term goal of the current incumbents who don't even have the decency to speak with the Fan Council is to get to fcuk out of Dodge.

Anyone annoyed by their actions, deciding to try writing to them, deciding to not go to this fixture, or contemplating their normally automatic ST renewals are perfectly within their rights to do so. I don't see anyone claiming their annoyance / outrage / mild irritation makes them an Uber-fan.

Look at the bigger picture? The likelihood is we won't be facing an ugly sister for many seasons to come. The bigger picture shouldn't be 35k or so from one game. The bigger picture should be not hacking off your core customer base, not treating your Fan Council like shite, and having more initiatives like the Bring a Buddie idea.

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