Stuart Dickson Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 This has a bit of Leicester City about it with regards to form at end of last season. I'm sticking a quid on Sunderland to win the league next season lol. I don't think Sunderland are likely to win the league, but there are plenty of similarities between Sunderland's improvement in form since the end of January this season, and the improvement shown by Leicester over a similar period in 2014/5. Sunderland are now much more difficult to beat and I see that Allardyce is looking for a £50m player budget over the summer to keep him at the club. There's a big rebuilding job needing done. The likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea will have to be replaced to strengthen the depth of the back four. Yedlin and M'Vila are only in on loan and the likes of Bridcutt, Vergini, Coates, Fletcher, Matthews, Gomez, Graham and Giaccherini will no doubt be moved on a permanent basis once their current loan spells end. I'd trust big Sam to use any money he gets wisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Stuart, i said i wouldn't comment further but feel compelled to point out that in my opinion you've got a few things wrong. You say we want a team of geordies. Les Ferdinand, Malcolm Macdonald, to name but two were from nowhere near Newcastle but loved in their time here. Doesn't matter if they're from Mars as long as they give 100%. The fans actually loved Chris Hughton too. It was a major surprise when he got sacked and he was by no means hounded out. Yes, a handful of fans gathered at the entrance of St James' when Andy Cole was sold but were soon pacified when Keegan met them and said he knew what he was doing. That proved to be the case when Les Ferdinand was brought in. Not Shearer who in fact signed 18 months later to a fantastic welcome and not the protests you talk about. Last night you were revelling in telling me how long it's been since Newcastle won anything but now we've got outrageously demanding fans. 61 years without a domestic trophy and 47 years since winning the fairs cup, yet we're too demanding? So which one of your Martians hasn't been giving 100%? And why didn't a manager as experienced as Benitez spot this and drop them? Be honest John - a large section of the Newcastle support are exactly the problem with your club right now. They want Geordies running the club, and they want Geordies playing for the club. Anything else isn't the "Newcastle" way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Nipper Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Aye, insert another 2 dozen teams for the same romantic fantasy. Go to many other cities/clubs and you will get the same meaningless nonsense. There are similarities in that many sets of supporters feel they deserve success, quite why is anybody's guess. I agree the board have a lot to answer for but the demand for success from the support has added to the panic and changes that have, ultimately, led to the current demise. Watford. There's another that could be offered as a classic example of unrealistic and fanciful ambition. Flores pushed out the door. Wtf, its just utterly ridiculous. What's next, Elton back to tinkle the ivory , ooooeeerrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I don't think Sunderland are likely to win the league, but there are plenty of similarities between Sunderland's improvement in form since the end of January this season, and the improvement shown by Leicester over a similar period in 2014/5. Sunderland are now much more difficult to beat and I see that Allardyce is looking for a £50m player budget over the summer to keep him at the club. There's a big rebuilding job needing done. The likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea will have to be replaced to strengthen the depth of the back four. Yedlin and M'Vila are only in on loan and the likes of Bridcutt, Vergini, Coates, Fletcher, Matthews, Gomez, Graham and Giaccherini will no doubt be moved on a permanent basis once their current loan spells end. I'd trust big Sam to use any money he gets wisely. Sam was a great appointment and has plenty of experience at the wrong end of the table. Would imagine the remit is to avoid relegation again since he hasnt had a full season in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Watford. There's another that could be offered as a classic example of unrealistic and fanciful ambition. Flores pushed out the door. Wtf, its just utterly ridiculous. What's next, Elton back to tinkle the ivory , ooooeeerrrr I agree 100%. Astounded that this was discussed a while ago and has now happened. No idea what they, the directors, expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Sam was a great appointment and has plenty of experience at the wrong end of the table. Would imagine the remit is to avoid relegation again since he hasnt had a full season in charge? That's what Big Sam does,makes his teams hard to beat Don't expect anything else,mid table at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I agree 100%. Astounded that this was discussed a while ago and has now happened. No idea what they, the directors, expect? It's what Leicester achieved Daft directors seem to think this is the norm They did it why can't we That man done a great job with what he got to attend with A few clubs next season my own included will be brought back down to earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 That's what Big Sam does,makes his teams hard to beat Don't expect anything else,mid table at best I agree and I'd be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Saint Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) So which one of your Martians hasn't been giving 100%? And why didn't a manager as experienced as Benitez spot this and drop them? Be honest John - a large section of the Newcastle support are exactly the problem with your club right now. They want Geordies running the club, and they want Geordies playing for the club. Anything else isn't the "Newcastle" way. Simply not true. Steven Taylor's a geordie and so was John Carver. Though their hearts are/were in the right place, they are/were crap and get the stick that goes with it. Are Everton fans too demanding for wanting Martinez out? They've never been in any real danger this season and reached the FA cup semi. Arsenal qualify for the champions league every year and have won the FA cup the last two years running yet they call for Wengers head. Part of it with Newcastle is that from 1994 for a decade we regularly qualified for europe and had a lot of near misses finishing runners up in the league and cup. That obviously built up expectations. Now all we ask is to be able to compete and not continually struggle or merely exist. Though fans of some clubs are perfectly happy with that of course. Edited May 13, 2016 by john scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Simply not true. Steven Taylor's a geordie and so was John Carver. Though their hearts are/were in the right place, they are/were crap and get the stick that goes with it. Are Everton fans too demanding for wanting Martinez out? They've never been in any real danger this season and reached the FA cup semi. Arsenal qualify for the champions league every year and have won the FA cup the last two years running yet they call for Wengers head. Part of it with Newcastle is that from 1994 for a decade we regularly qualified for europe and had a lot of near misses finishing runners up in the league and cup. That obviously built up expectations. Now all we ask is to be able to compete and not continually struggle or merely exist. Though fans of some clubs are perfectly happy with that of course. Well what you've got for all your wishes is relegation, budget reductions, a club that's even less attractive to decent players and what will now probably be at least a couple of years being "the most passionately supported" Championship club and the third best side in the North East. Enjoy the fruits of your labour.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I can see this thread getting resurrected this time next year if/when Newcastle get promoted and Sunderland get relegated. Now you've offered religion into the equation it could get messy I await the 'resurrection' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) No secret that I love Newcastle, don't agree with what Stu Dick is saying though. The fans are far from demanding. The don't demand trophies, don't demand Champions League football, don't deman European football. All the want is a premier league side with a mix of fight and flair. Managers haven't been hounded out. I go to about 6 home games and 4 away games a season and managers don't get hounded out. Pardew got stick from the minority and as soon as this happens the press are all over it like a rash. The only gaffer to get it from a large proportion of the fans was McLaren. I remember being at SJP and the whole stadium were singing " sacked in the morning" . This pressure from the fans was entirely justified, he should never have been given job. Sacked by Derby, employed by Newcastle. Expectation levels? If they have the odd good season their delighted. Their version of " Hello Hello" sums them up. " we're gonna win f**k all again, were gonna win f**k all. But we still follow united" They don't expect much but they do expect better. Edited May 14, 2016 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 No secret that I love Newcastle, don't agree with what Stu Dick is saying though. The fans are far from demanding. The don't demand trophies, don't demand Champions League football, don't deman European football. All the want is a premier league side with a mix of fight and flair. Managers haven't been hounded out. I go to about 6 home games and 4 away games a season and managers don't get hounded out. Pardew got stick from the minority and as so as this happens the press are all over it like a rash. The only gaffer to get it from a large proportion of the fans was McLaren. I remember being at SJPAnd the whole stadium were singing " sacked in the morning" . This pressure from the fans was entirely justified, he should never have been given job. Sacks by Derby, employed by Newcastle. Expectation levels? If they have the odd good season their delighted. Their version of " Hello Hello" sums them up. " we're gonna win f**k all again, were gonna win f**k all. But we still follow united" They don't expect much but they do expect better. ^^^^^^^ Blootered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 ^^^^^^^ Blootered. I wish Trying hard though:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 I wish Trying hard though:) Pants on fire.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Anyway, our season is finished and Newcastle is already relegated but I know what I'll be doing on Sunday. Got full car heading down. Toon Toon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Pants on fire.................... Peroni on fire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Let's hope the police horses make it through Newcastle's last game without a punch to the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Let's hope the police horses make it through Newcastle's last game without a punch to the face. Don't be too harsh on Barry Rogerson. He'd heard it was the best way to get Gazza round with a fishing rod and a cooked chicken Edited May 14, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 The Club belongs to the Saudi dudes. They are not Newcastle United fans. Not even Geordies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Bruce sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, shull said: Bruce sacked. To be fair was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: To be fair was always going to happen. Not exactly shock news is an understatement. Mutual consent was the term I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Not exactly shock news is an understatement. Mutual consent was the term I heard. He leaves with a heavy heart and 8 million smackaroonies after his contract was paid in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 He leaves with a heavy heart and 8 million smackaroonies after his contract was paid in full.Aye, it's a hard life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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