Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Here's my answer, you're making a right arse of yourself. No need to get upset, you can't help having a bad day. Come back tomorrow, I'll ease up on you. Oh, the irony! If I promise to come back tomorrow will you have an answer as to why I should not advocate for a new referendum if circumstances change? Edited May 27, 2016 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 It's all a waste of time. Europe rules and will till the World takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Not that you would ever edit a post that made you look rather silly. ;) You'd be as busy as SPS today deleting all the things he's written about Jose Mourinho in the past. Didn't make me look silly, just decided, as true as it was, it was unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Was it not scaring the pensioners that swung the Indy Ref in favour of a no vote? It's all so similar Indeed it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Oh, the irony! If I promise to come back tomorrow will you have an answer as to why I should not advocate for a new referendum if circumstances change? I love the way you have "subtly" exchanged "until we get the correct result" for "if circumstances change"! Priceless manipulation. Why selectively quite? The part I quoted was the relevant part and very clear in its meaning... You are no respector of democracy and will continue banging your feet in a tantrum till you get what you want. Every subsequent post has only served to prove that point to be true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Stewart I'm not worried about right wing surge I'm voting out because the EU is not democratic also EU has pushed money Spain way to build a fleet of fishing boats to come fish in our waters . I want to see our waters returned to our fishermen . I also want to see profits from Scots rail kept in Scotland rather than going to Holland of which there are plenty of examples throughout the UK. These are just a few examples why I want us to leave the EU. When we started inviting in so called poorer counties to join the EU financial problems and imagination was always going to be an issue. Well talking about not being democratic - I see the MSP's at Hollyrood yesterday voted overwhelmingly to back an SNP motion calling for the UK to remain in Europe. Why they would waste their time with such a vote when the people will get their say soon anyway is beyond me but then I guess wasting time and getting paid shitloads of taxpayers money for it is exactly what the Scottish Parliament does best. Anyway only 8 MSP's out of 129 voted to against the motion. That's just 6.2% of our representatives voting to exit. Yet opinion polls in Scotland show that 46% of Scots want to stay in the EU, and 54% would vote to leave. Right now Holyrood doesn't look very representative of the people - does it? The SNP aren't even representative of their own voters The Daily Mail poll on 29 February found 33% of pro-Scottish independence voters backed a Brexit, against 25% who would vote leave. Edited May 27, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 So you would accept unfettered government by the Old Etoryian (sic) party of Cameron, Johnson and Osbourne. No-one is advocating an Indy referendum every six months until the correct result is achieved but neither should the 2014 result be regarded as a free ticket for 20 years. There we have it... The democratic approach and understanding of a two year old! Here's me thinking that democracy meant all having a vote and then respecting the will of the majority! Oh, the irony! If I promise to come back tomorrow will you have an answer as to why I should not advocate for a new referendum if circumstances change? I love the way you have "subtly" exchanged "until we get the correct result" for "if circumstances change"! Priceless manipulation. Why selectively quite? The part I quoted was the relevant part and very clear in its meaning... You are no respector of democracy and will continue banging your feet in a tantrum till you get what you want. Every subsequent post has only served to prove that point to be true! There's the sequence of posts, now in my original post I stated there should be "no free ticket for 20 years" and that means if and only if circumstances change then we should be allowed to consider the option of a new Indy referendum - I've changed nothing in the course of my posts. Politics is an ongoing issue and if you lose once then you campaign and argue and hope for circumstances in which a decision can be reversed - that's not having a tantrum, that's getting on with life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 There's the sequence of posts, now in my original post I stated there should be "no free ticket for 20 years" and that means if and only if circumstances change then we should be allowed to consider the option of a new Indy referendum - I've changed nothing in the course of my posts. Politics is an ongoing issue and if you lose once then you campaign and argue and hope for circumstances in which a decision can be reversed - that's not having a tantrum, that's getting on with life. It seems strange though to want the UK to exit the EU against Scotlands wishes, regardless of whether it's best for Scots or not, just so you can get another independence referendum. I wouldn't say that was very nationalistic or very patriotic of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 It seems strange though to want the UK to exit the EU against Scotlands wishes, regardless of whether it's best for Scots or not, just so you can get another independence referendum. I wouldn't say that was very nationalistic or very patriotic of you. Erm, that's pretty much the opposite of what I said If circumstances change then we have the right to advocate a new Indy referendum, although as I've said I'd love it, absolutely love it, if the smaller countries kept the UK in the EU against the wishes of the English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I saw the headline - was gonnae post: "Who gives a f**k?" But... The point remains the same. You only want this referendum to damage the union. You don't want what is best for the majority of Scots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Erm, that's pretty much the opposite of what I said Stud will never let the truth get in the way of his agenda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 There's the sequence of posts, now in my original post I stated there should be "no free ticket for 20 years" and that means if and only if circumstances change then we should be allowed to consider the option of a new Indy referendum - I've changed nothing in the course of my posts. Politics is an ongoing issue and if you lose once then you campaign and argue and hope for circumstances in which a decision can be reversed - that's not having a tantrum, that's getting on with life. "Until you get the correct result"! Why can't you accept that the use of that specific phrase... In context... Is inappropriate and undemocratic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 How often should these votes take place? I'm all for Independence but there should be 10 years from the previous vote before there is another. (Hopefully that will be time for the OAPs and Loyalists to die off ????) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) First I take it by not pursuing the point that you accept that I haven't changed the meaning of my posts. "Until you get the correct result"!Why can't you accept that the use of that specific phrase... In context... Is inappropriate and undemocratic? Because you're quoting selectively and accusing me of meaning the opposite of what I said - read the words in red. I will not let you misrepresent me in this manner. I accept that the result of the 2014 election but as I've said politics is an ongoing situation, the debate continues, and if circumstances change then a new Independence referendum might be appropriate. So you would accept unfettered government by the Old Etoryian (sic) party of Cameron, Johnson and Osbourne. No-one is advocating an Indy referendum every six months until the correct result is achieved but neither should the 2014 result be regarded as a free ticket for 20 years. Edited May 27, 2016 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Because you're quoting selectively and accusing me of meaning the opposite of what I said... So you now believe Independence to be an INCORRECT decision? I know you said politics change... but that is some kind of record! Glad you saw sense eventually. If I can be of any other help... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm all for Independence but there should be 10 years from the previous vote before there is another. (Hopefully that will be time for the OAPs and Loyalists to die off ????) Aye, because they'll not be any new OAPs by then. ???????????? Not sure about Loyalists, depends how many were killed by Hibs supporters. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 So you now believe Independence to be an INCORRECT decision? I know you said politics change... but that is some kind of record! Glad you saw sense eventually. If I can be of any other help... ... No, I accept we lost the 2014 referendum but I still hope and believe that I will see an Independant Scotland. I expect The Old Etonian/Tory party of Cameron, Johnson and Osbourne to polarize the situation and win us the next referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 No, I accept we lost the 2014 referendum but I still hope and believe that I will see an Independant Scotland. I expect The Old Etonian/Tory party of Cameron, Johnson and Osbourne to polarize the situation and win us the next referendum. 2014? Was it really almost 2 years ago? Must be time for a new one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 First I take it by not pursuing the point that you accept that I haven't changed the meaning of my posts. Because you're quoting selectively and accusing me of meaning the opposite of what I said - read the words in red. I will not let you misrepresent me in this manner. I accept that the result of the 2014 election but as I've said politics is an ongoing situation, the debate continues, and if circumstances change then a new Independence referendum might be appropriate. Dear oh dear, almost in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well, the good news is we don't need to bother with any more elections, the people have expressed their democratic will, why bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well, the good news is we don't need to bother with any more elections, the people have expressed their democratic will, why bother? Well said........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Dear oh dear, almost in tears. Yeah laughing at you, the man with no answers...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Yeah laughing at you, the man with no answers...... PS No more, my sides are sore, you've had a howler, I'm out, had enough at the Scottish referendum, it's over, get used to it. Edited May 27, 2016 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 PS No more, my sides are sore, you've had a howler, I'm out, had enough at the Scottish referendum, it's over, get used to it. This is about the EU referendum ya trumpet. The clue is in the title of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 This is about the EU referendum ya trumpet. The clue is in the title of the thread. Aye, on ye go, pick on me, I'm fed up getting bullied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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