oaksoft Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 Times are hard... I have to make a living somehow! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted May 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 What a U turn by David Cameron as he continues to lose all credibility. David Cameron has hailed Labour's Sadiq Khan as "a proud Muslim" and "a proud Brit" as he shared a platform with the London Mayor at an EU Remain rally. They were launching a Britain Stronger In Europe battle bus and pledge card. But Vote Leave said the PM's criticisms of Mr Khan during the mayoral contest less than a month ago showed he could not be trusted. UKIP MP Douglas Carswell said the PM had accused Mr Khan of being a "terrorist sympathiser". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Would this help Taxi drivers if we leave? Leading figures in the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union say they want to be able to scrap VAT on fuel to help the poorest households. Tories Michael Gove and Boris Johnson and Labour's Gisela Stuart wrote in the Sun that the tax on energy bills cannot be scrapped because of EU rules. Chancellor George Osborne said this was "fantasy land" economics. Remain campaigners accused Vote Leave of promising a "make-believe land of milk and honey" if the UK left the EU. There is one week left to register to vote in the EU referendum on 23 June. The Electoral Commission says that, even after recent surges in registrations, many people are still not signed up to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I dinnae mind paying VAT on Fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I dinnae mind paying VAT on Fuel. Let's hope that they increase it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Let's hope that they increase it then. And on Peroni tae. Country thriving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Would this help Taxi drivers if we leave? Leading figures in the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union say they want to be able to scrap VAT on fuel to help the poorest households. Tories Michael Gove and Boris Johnson and Labour's Gisela Stuart wrote in the Sun that the tax on energy bills cannot be scrapped because of EU rules. Chancellor George Osborne said this was "fantasy land" economics. Remain campaigners accused Vote Leave of promising a "make-believe land of milk and honey" if the UK left the EU. There is one week left to register to vote in the EU referendum on 23 June. The Electoral Commission says that, even after recent surges in registrations, many people are still not signed up to vote. Hilarious. Help the poorest by making petrol cheaper?If you have a car then by definition you cannot be poor in the first place. Lets put it this way, if the poorest in our society are all driving around in cars then I am not inclined to help any of them financially beyond the tax I am already paying. So either the VOte Leave folk are trying to help people who will not be affected by a reduction in VAT or they are suggesting we chuck money at people who have prioritised a car above food, heating and accommodation. Neither are vote winners TBH. Edited May 31, 2016 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted May 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hilarious. Help the poorest by making petrol cheaper? If you have a car then by definition you cannot be poor in the first place. Lets put it this way, if the poorest in our society are all driving around in cars then I am not inclined to help any of them financially beyond the tax I am already paying. So either the VOte Leave folk are trying to help people who will not be affected by a reduction in VAT or they are suggesting we chuck money at people who have prioritised a car above food, heating and accommodation. Neither are vote winners TBH. I think you've lost the plot slightly. It says fuel, this could be heating fuel. It doesn't say petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Food and Water is fuel. As is Peroni to Jakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hilarious. Help the poorest by making petrol cheaper? If you have a car then by definition you cannot be poor in the first place. Lets put it this way, if the poorest in our society are all driving around in cars then I am not inclined to help any of them financially beyond the tax I am already paying. So either the VOte Leave folk are trying to help people who will not be affected by a reduction in VAT or they are suggesting we chuck money at people who have prioritised a car above food, heating and accommodation. Neither are vote winners TBH. What do buses run on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Tarmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cheaper fuel also means cheaper food through haulage cheaper fuel can bring the price down on many things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Peroni, some weekend's it's the only sustenance I survive on. Aye. Ah can tell by your posts. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think you've lost the plot slightly. It says fuel, this could be heating fuel. It doesn't say petrol. Food and Water is fuel. As is Peroni to Jakes. What do buses run on? Cheaper fuel also means cheaper food through haulage cheaper fuel can bring the price down on many things. Well it appears I made a complete c**t of myself.......... That will teach me to post when I am off my tits on early morning caffeine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 On the other side though, if you scrap VAT on fuel you reduce the tax revenues and therefore you leave the government either having to make more cuts to services, or you have to raise the money through some other form of tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Would this help Taxi drivers if we leave? Leading figures in the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union say they want to be able to scrap VAT on fuel to help the poorest households. Tories Michael Gove and Boris Johnson and Labour's Gisela Stuart wrote in the Sun that the tax on energy bills cannot be scrapped because of EU rules. Chancellor George Osborne said this was "fantasy land" economics. Remain campaigners accused Vote Leave of promising a "make-believe land of milk and honey" if the UK left the EU. There is one week left to register to vote in the EU referendum on 23 June. The Electoral Commission says that, even after recent surges in registrations, many people are still not signed up to vote. So is Gideon calling it fantasy land economics as the vat decision isn't the Eus? That means it's his choice to charge vat on household fuel?Wasn't it Prudence Brown who introduced vat on gas and leccy bills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) So is Gideon calling it fantasy land economics as the vat decision isn't the Eus? That means it's his choice to charge vat on household fuel? Wasn't it Prudence Brown who introduced vat on gas and leccy bills? Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997. And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20% Edited May 31, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997. And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20% A reduction from 5% to 20%? I know you're not great with sums but surely even you can see the problem with that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 A reduction from 5% to 20%? I know you're not great with sums but surely even you can see the problem with that statement. nope - try reading it again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 The battle continues, the spotlight moves to immigration. The UK could have a "fairer, more humane" immigration system that would work better for the economy if it left the EU, leading Leave campaigners say. Tories Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and Priti Patel, and Labour's Gisela Stuart are calling for a points-based system for all migrants coming to the UK. They say EU free movement rules have hit wages and strained public services. The Remain campaign said the proposal would "wreck" the UK economy and could drive up immigration. Meanwhile, the TUC will publish research claiming average UK wages would be £38 a week lower by 2030 outside the EU, as part of its push to encourage people to vote to stay in on 23 June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997. And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20% So Gideon is admitting these are vat matters that he has control over and chooses not to change. WOW, there's some bad media advice getting given there if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 My bad. Neither of us has come out of this thread well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 By admitting we made a mistake? Don't think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Norman Lamont in 1994 set at 8%. Gordon Brown reduced it to 5% in 1997. And the EU certainly do regulate on VAT as the UK Government found out when the European Court ruled that the UK Government was acting unlawfully when it reduced the VAT rate on solar panels to 5% from 20% Meant to add that the EU does regulate on VAT. It sets a minimum rate of 15%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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