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"Independent inquiry will be published in full"

not expecting much more than another coat of whitewash

Yep. It's incredible that with an inquiry in place there's already leaked reports. Apparently there were only 138 police officers in the stadium at full time because Police Scotland expected trouble to flare outside the stadium and had deployed most of their officers out there. In another leak an SFA source has claimed the SFA are disappointed at the policing and stewarding of the event - yet it was the SFA who were responsible for the numbers of police and stewards at the match.

You can smell how this is going though. The SFA blazers are going to try to pass the blame onto the police, Rangers have already accused the police of being in some way responsible for their supporters being on the pitch, and Hibs seem to think we'll all forget the scenes where their support are ripping up turf, punching players, goaded Rangers fans and destroyed goalposts. I've no problem with an inquiry being held to see where lessons can be learned but FFS SFA one thing that really isn't in doubt is that both Hibs and Rangers fans were on the pitch disgracing the sport in this country. We know both clubs should be punished so what the f**k are you waiting on!

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Yep. It's incredible that with an inquiry in place there's already leaked reports. Apparently there were only 138 police officers in the stadium at full time because Police Scotland expected trouble to flare outside the stadium and had deployed most of their officers out there. In another leak an SFA source has claimed the SFA are disappointed at the policing and stewarding of the event - yet it was the SFA who were responsible for the numbers of police and stewards at the match.

You can smell how this is going though. The SFA blazers are going to try to pass the blame onto the police, Rangers have already accused the police of being in some way responsible for their supporters being on the pitch, and Hibs seem to think we'll all forget the scenes where their support are ripping up turf, punching players, goaded Rangers fans and destroyed goalposts. I've no problem with an inquiry being held to see where lessons can be learned but FFS SFA one thing that really isn't in doubt is that both Hibs and Rangers fans were on the pitch disgracing the sport in this country. We know both clubs should be punished so what the f**k are you waiting on!

Agree that it's already looking like a poor attempt to really deal with the main issue here.

Supporters, on both sides, who still think it's ok to act like animals and blame each other.

Seems, deep down, there's been little improvement since the 80's,

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The SFA have no say in the number of police officers at any match. Police Scotland take that decision and in most cases they insist on more than are necessary. #cashcow.

Yes and this will cost clubs like us more next season as it's a certainty the police will want more officers at Hibs games now. With some justification it has to be said.

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Hilarious to watch the hand wringers get their knickers in a twist over this!

I assume you were also wanting St Mirren to be hammered over our pitch invasions at Ayr and Inverness back in the day?

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Hilarious to watch the hand wringers get their knickers in a twist over this!

I assume you were also wanting St Mirren to be hammered over our pitch invasions at Ayr and Inverness back in the day?

Yep and I certainly commented on the time condemning the arseholes who went on the pitch

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Why are they wearing Knickers on their hands ? blink.png

Don't confuse him, his head will burst..............................wait. wink.png

He can't see the difference between the game he's talking about and the damage, both to property and people, that happened in the cup final. 1eye.gif

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Does Wembley 77 make you ashamed to be Scottish ?

No but that shouldn't have happened either.

40 years on & you want time to have stood still?

Next week, you might find out about the wheel. It was revolutionary. You will love it but maybe not, you seem happy enough stuck in the past.

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Does Wembley 77 make you ashamed to be Scottish ?

Firstly, can you learn how to use the quote function as your question could be aimed anybody?

As I'm first second lol.gif here I'll ask, why are you comparing an event from almost 40 years ago to what happened last Saturday?

Have you taken note of ANY of the main issues from last weekend?

As for your question, not ashamed, slightly embarrassed at the drunkenness but that was seen as a jolly jape in them days, a completely different age and different circumstances.

Maybe time you stepped/dragged yourself into this century?

PS Just seen post above, funny how a similar opinion was taken on your post?

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I did not go on the pitch at Inverness as I was seething at our lack of professionalism and said at the game we were a cert to go straight back down

I was straight doon the A9 after I came off the Pitch

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Does Wembley 77 make you ashamed to be Scottish ?

Actually yes it did.

I was at that game. I was 7 years old taken by my Grandfather and my Dad. The match was fantastic, but at full time there was one of those infamous surges, as fans all pushed down to the wall. I was actually pushed against the wall at the front and was in some discomfort when an older gentleman who was also being crushed lifted me out of the road, over the wall and onto the track side. I must have been quite upset cause a policeman came and looked after me with all the mayhem going on around us, and then ensured I was safely handed back to my Grandpa a few minutes later.

A direct consequence of that match, of that pitch invasion and of others like it - like the pitch invasion at Hampden in 1980 - was that fans were penned in at football grounds for the next 10 - 15 years with huge crowd barriers installed to stop fans from getting on the pitch. That ended with the Hillsborough disaster and 96 deaths on the terraces.

Those treating this Scottish Cup final and pitch invasions by Ayr and Kilmarnock fans in the play offs as nothing more than jolly japes should take a long hard look at themselves. f**king fannies!

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I did not go on the pitch at Inverness as I was seething at our lack of professionalism and said at the game we were a cert to go straight back down

Same really. I was disgusted. I'd travelled to Inverness with my Dad who had dementia and with my best mate. We were fully up for a celebration and a bit of fun. We were even planning to stay in Inverness for a bit after the match with the possibility of just getting a hotel room and making a night of it in the pubs. Instead, having witnessed all that stupid pitch invading to interfere with the linesman, the teams inept - even drunken - performance, and the scenes at full time the three of us headed back to our car and drove with not a word being uttered until we got to Perth. We were absolutely seething at what we'd witnessed.

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Actually yes it did.

I was at that game. I was 7 years old taken by my Grandfather and my Dad. The match was fantastic, but at full time there was one of those infamous surges, as fans all pushed down to the wall. I was actually pushed against the wall at the front and was in some discomfort when an older gentleman who was also being crushed lifted me out of the road, over the wall and onto the track side. I must have been quite upset cause a policeman came and looked after me with all the mayhem going on around us, and then ensured I was safely handed back to my Grandpa a few minutes later.

A direct consequence of that match, of that pitch invasion and of others like it - like the pitch invasion at Hampden in 1980 - was that fans were penned in at football grounds for the next 10 - 15 years with huge crowd barriers installed to stop fans from getting on the pitch. That ended with the Hillsborough disaster and 96 deaths on the terraces.

Those treating this Scottish Cup final and pitch invasions by Ayr and Kilmarnock fans in the play offs as nothing more than jolly japes should take a long hard look at themselves. f**king fannies!

Get yer ain patter!

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Agree that it's already looking like a poor attempt to really deal with the main issue here.

Supporters, on both sides, who still think it's ok to act like animals and blame each other.

Seems, deep down, there's been little improvement since the 80's,

Forget supporters acting like animals and blaming each other, one of the clubs has put out an official statement saying its fans did nothing wrong and it was the other club's fans to blame, and the police, and Tom English and the BBC and Nicola Sturgeon... they just stopped short of blaming Cheesy too.

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Forget supporters acting like animals and blaming each other, one of the clubs has put out an official statement saying its fans did nothing wrong and it was the other club's fans to blame, and the police, and Tom English and the BBC and Nicola Sturgeon... they just stopped short of blaming Cheesy too.

Whereas you have focused everything on the same club..........................irony in the extreme. lol.giflol.giflol.gif

Couldnae make it up. 1eye.gif

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Whereas you have focused everything on the same club..........................irony in the extreme. lol.giflol.giflol.gif

Couldnae make it up. 1eye.gif

As part of a thread condemning Hibs supporters (which I also did for those threatening Rangers players, fighting Rangers fans, stealing photographers equipment, and breaking the goalposts).

I think there is more common ground in our posts than you are making out but we disagree on Rangers response, the policing stewarding issue and whether it was a big problem that any Hibs fans were on the pitch.

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As part of a thread condemning Hibs supporters (which I also did for those threatening Rangers players, fighting Rangers fans, stealing photographers equipment, and breaking the goalposts).

I think there is more common ground in our posts than you are making out but we disagree on Rangers response, the policing stewarding issue and whether it was a big problem that any Hibs fans were on the pitch.

Okly dokly, Rangers response has been, predictably, defensive, as every club would have been.

If you still really believe that any amount of police/stewards could have prevented the invasion by Hibs supporters you have not any realistic idea of what is involved in these situations and the number of fans involved.

Apart from that, we are in total agreement, and I, normally, love you. rolleyes.gif

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Okly dokly, Rangers response has been, predictably, defensive, as every club would have been.

If you still really believe that any amount of police/stewards could have prevented the invasion by Hibs supporters you have not any realistic idea of what is involved in these situations and the number of fans involved.

Apart from that, we are in total agreement, and I, normally, love you. rolleyes.gif

Rangers said their fans did nothing wrong and only did what other clubs fans would have done and were only on the pitch to defend their players. Have yet to find one photo from Saturday of 1 Rangers fan defending 1 Rangers player.

Surely its blindingly obvious that when 2 teams' fans end up on the pitch fighting each other both clubs should condemn their fans for fighting. It's like Manchester all over again where Rangers fans were perfect and nothing would have happened riot wise had the TV screen not worked and English casuals hadn't dressed up as Rangers fans (none of whom were ever found or charged by the police).

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Rangers said their fans did nothing wrong and only did what other clubs fans would have done and were only on the pitch to defend their players. Have yet to find one photo from Saturday of 1 Rangers fan defending 1 Rangers player.

Surely its blindingly obvious that when 2 teams' fans end up on the pitch fighting each other both clubs should condemn their fans for fighting. It's like Manchester all over again where Rangers fans were perfect and nothing would have happened riot wise had the TV screen not worked and English casuals hadn't dressed up as Rangers fans (none of whom were ever found or charged by the police).

FFS, have you been raped by Rangers supporters?

Can't you even admit it was Hibs supporters who were the instigators in this disaster?

I have already mentioned that there seems to be no statement from Hibs is a joke, yet you are drag up every previous incident by Rangers supporters as some sort of defence of the Hibs support.

I find it astounding that some of our support are blinded by the hatred of the OF, depending what "school" they attended, blind the opinion, even when it's fcuking obvious that it was Hibs fans who instigated this particular embarrassment for Scottish football?

This attitude makes me really glad I fcuked off from Paisley as it was thick with the stench of sectarianism from every set of supporters I encountered.

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