Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 "Aren't good at life"? That's a wind-up, right? Nope. It's a direct quote and I'd agree with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) The very idea of folk having guns in their bedside cabinets, and their kids playing with them and possibly injuring themselves or others (or worse) is reason alone to regard this culture as f**king nuts.And that's exactly the kind of people Frum was referring too. Guns should be locked in a gun cabinet just as is the case over here. Edited June 15, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's a Fraudian slip, to misquote him from another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Nope. It's a direct quote and I'd agree with him So how do they decide who is "good at life"? What a preposterous notion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 So how do they decide who is "good at life"? What a preposterous notion! He made a similar point about how you decide who is mentally ill when told 80% of republicans believed the mentally ill shouldn't be banned from owning guns. Honestly it was an excellent interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 He made a similar point about how you decide who is mentally ill when told 80% of republicans believed the mentally ill shouldn't be banned from owning guns. Honestly it was an excellent interview. Absurd. Define "mentally ill". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Absurd. Define "mentally ill". Being proud to be a St Mirren supporter. COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Absurd. Define "mentally ill". That was his point. Indeed he went on to say that often the problem with the poll was that often the supposedly mentally ill gunmen was perfectly well when they purchased their guns. You really should put your handbag down Drew and watch the interview. Stop being so defensive. A lot of common sense was talked by Frum. A lot of people in the UK think arrogantly that were the example the world should follow but we couldn't stop the IRA gathering huge arms caches in the UK, we've completely failed to stop gun crime and we've been utterly hopeless when it comes to our record on stabbings. We're not even very good at preventing gun massacres as Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria clearly shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 That was his point. Indeed he went on to say that often the problem with the poll was that often the supposedly mentally ill gunmen was perfectly well when they purchased their guns. You really should put your handbag down Drew and watch the interview. Stop being so defensive. A lot of common sense was talked by Frum. A lot of people in the UK think arrogantly that were the example the world should follow but we couldn't stop the IRA gathering huge arms caches in the UK, we've completely failed to stop gun crime and we've been utterly hopeless when it comes to our record on stabbings. We're not even very good at preventing gun massacres as Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria clearly shows. As usual you pick a few, if tragic, examples and try to compare the UK to the USA, which is a preposterous suggestion. I could name you many more from the USA but I feel no need for that game. As for bringing in the IRA, you really go out of your way to be a cock at times Stuart. I've said before, it's hard to tell if you're at the wind up or really are a nob, I'm plumping for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Fcuk sake. I said 'no-one bite' several posts ago. As Div says, listen to yer' auld da'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 As usual you pick a few, if tragic, examples and try to compare the UK to the USA, which is a preposterous suggestion. I could name you many more from the USA but I feel no need for that game. As for bringing in the IRA, you really go out of your way to be a cock at times Stuart. I've said before, it's hard to tell if you're at the wind up or really are a nob, I'm plumping for the latter. The IRA are completely relevant. News reports emanating from Orlando today say that this gunman scoped out Disney Springs as a possible site for his attack - a place where there are no gay clubs and a story that would completely Scotch claims this was a homophobic attack and not a terrorist attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The campaign group parents against gun violence release an updated version of this every month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The campaign group parents against gun violence release an updated version of this every month. Have to say I agree with all the actions..................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 See, here is my problem with that statement. If it's true that so many Americans think it's right to own a gun in the name of defence, why were none of the people in that club able to defend themselves by shooting this murderer with the pistols they are obviously all packing? The gun lobby in the US is often ridiculed by us in the UK - yet here is yet another example where their argument holds weight. If everyone was carrying a fire arm there is no way this murderer could have fired off more than his first couple of bullets before being shot dead by at least one person in a crowded nightclub. You are a scream. Most responsible gun holders in America keep their guns in the house for protection from a break in that is a fact you fail to understand. I'm going by friends who live in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Have to say I agree with all the actions.....................................Another reason to be thankful Arbroath isn't in the USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The campaign group parents against gun violence release an updated version of this every month. The last one is bang out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 That was his point. Indeed he went on to say that often the problem with the poll was that often the supposedly mentally ill gunmen was perfectly well when they purchased their guns. You really should put your handbag down Drew and watch the interview. Stop being so defensive. A lot of common sense was talked by Frum. A lot of people in the UK think arrogantly that were the example the world should follow but we couldn't stop the IRA gathering huge arms caches in the UK, we've completely failed to stop gun crime and we've been utterly hopeless when it comes to our record on stabbings. We're not even very good at preventing gun massacres as Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria clearly shows. You didn't answer my question. To be honest, anyone who would use the term "good at life" hardly warrants my time or anyone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Its not relevant whether the guy was gay himself or not FFS. He specifically targetted a gay bar with the specific intention of killing homosexuals. That makes it a homophobic hate crime. End of story. Sorry, its not the end of the story at all. If the guy had been straight and had attacked a regular bar that he had visited a number of times previously then we wouldn’t be classifying this as a heterosexual hate attack, would we? Nobody actually knows the motivation behind the attack. You don’t know what was going through the guy’s mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Being a Republican. Do you think the US funds its debt by selling premium bonds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Another reason to be thankful Arbroath isn't in the USA?Wish it wisnae in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Wish it wisnae in Scotland.Me thinks shull doth protest too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 About everything. Probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 You've been like that ever since Betty left you for Kendo.That was a blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) You are a scream. Most responsible gun holders in America keep their guns in the house for protection from a break in that is a fact you fail to understand. I'm going by friends who live in America. Read my post again. I am pointing out that America is not the gun totting nation full of lunatic gun slingers that Piers Morgan likes to pretend it is. Responsible gun owners keep their guns at home - not for break ins at all - but because they only use their guns for hunting. As with every other part of the world, terrorists, gangsters, and other criminals will be able to obtain guns whether they are illegal or not. However, perhaps had more US citizens been carrying their handguns at the Pulse nightclub, there would have been far fewer deaths. Edited June 15, 2016 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Read my post again. I am pointing out that America is not the gun totting nation full of lunatic gun slingers that Piers Morgan likes to pretend it is. Responsible gun owners keep their guns at home - not for break ins at all - but because they only use their guns for hunting. As with every other part of the world, terrorists, gangsters, and other criminals will be able to obtain guns whether they are illegal or not. However, perhaps had more US citizens been carrying their handguns at the Pulse nightclub, there would have been far fewer deaths. That's the NRA argument. Say 200 in the nightclub, all with guns. Mad, gay Islamist starts spraying, all 200 join in, it would have been like a scene from From Dusk Till dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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